Re: [Phono-L] Edison Triumph A 2/4 minute conversion kit?

[Immortal Performances via Phono-L]

Dear Mr. Medved:

 

Your reputation for restoring reproducers has been widely praised.

 

Each year on February 11th I host an Edison Birthday Celebration here in 
Austin, Texas for local & visiting antique phonograph collectors.   A couple 
years ago, some superb professional jazz musicians attended & then high school 
student Colin Hancock assisted in recording them on wax cylinders using his 
restored Recorder on my 2 minute only Edison Triumph Phonograph.

Colin is now in college & won’t be able to attend this year’s Party to which 
some amateur jazz musicians are invited.   I want to again record wax cylinders 
of the musicians but one of my Recorders fails to cut a groove & the other 
provides too weak a recording to accommodate a dozen musicians even though a 
platform & high stools are provided for certain instruments, etc.

 

Do you restore Edison Recorders to peak performance?   Or, would you have such 
for sale?

 

Also, wanted in a less timely manner, are you able to restore the Reproducer of 
a Columbia “BC” Twentieth Century Graphophone?

 

Many thanks & all good wishes…

 

Very truly yours,

 

Jim Cartwright

Immortal Performances, Inc.

Austin, Texas 78703-1402

(512) 478-9954

jimcartwri...@immortalperformances.com 

 

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Hello Ron,

 

I appreciate the kind words from you, John, and Darrell.

 

Steve

 

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I knew you'd set me straight, Steve.   Thanks.

 

Ron

 

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Hello Ron,

 

Edison links vary from .0175 to .0192 in diameter.  I use .020 annealed 
stainless steel wire to make links for them all except for the O and M which I 
use .018 annealed steel wire.  The O link is longer than the M link.  

 

Staple wire is too small in my opinion as it is .0175 on one side and .0186 on 
the other as it is not round.  The length is about right for the bent weight N 
but too long for the C or H.  

 

Steve

 

  _  

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Sent: Monday, February 1, 2016 10:10 PM
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I've been told that an ordinary office style staple is the right length and 
diameter for this link wire.  How far from the truth is that?

 

Ron L

 

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Sent: Monday, February 01, 2016 9:08 AM
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Subject: [Phono-L] Edison Triumph A 2/4 minute conversion kit?

 

Hello Everyone, 

 

I was wondering if there are any printed or "known" specifications for the 
fabrication dimensions of all of the different Edison reproducer "S" or "C" 
hooks that connect the diaphragm to the stylus?  Like actual center to center 
distance, radius on the ends, wire diameter, etc.  Any info would be helpful as 
I would like to machine a few small fixtures to make them instead of trial and 
error. 

 

Thanks,

Jim Reisenweber

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Re: [Phono-L] Edison Triumph A 2/4 minute conversion kit?

[SN Medved via Phono-L]

Hello Ron,


I appreciate the kind words from you, John, and Darrell.


Steve



From: Ron L'Herault via Phono-L <phono-l@oldcrank.org>
Sent: Monday, February 1, 2016 11:45 PM
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I knew you'd set me straight, Steve.   Thanks.



Ron



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Sent: Monday, February 01, 2016 10:22 PM
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Hello Ron,



Edison links vary from .0175 to .0192 in diameter.  I use .020 annealed 
stainless steel wire to make links for them all except for the O and M which I 
use .018 annealed steel wire.  The O link is longer than the M link.



Staple wire is too small in my opinion as it is .0175 on one side and .0186 on 
the other as it is not round.  The length is about right for the bent weight N 
but too long for the C or H.



Steve





From: Ron L'Herault via Phono-L <phono-l@oldcrank.org>
Sent: Monday, February 1, 2016 10:10 PM
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Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Triumph A 2/4 minute conversion kit?



I've been told that an ordinary office style staple is the right length and 
diameter for this link wire.  How far from the truth is that?



Ron L



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Sent: Monday, February 01, 2016 9:08 AM
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
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Subject: [Phono-L] Edison Triumph A 2/4 minute conversion kit?



Hello Everyone,



I was wondering if there are any printed or "known" specifications for the 
fabrication dimensions of all of the different Edison reproducer "S" or "C" 
hooks that connect the diaphragm to the stylus?  Like actual center to center 
distance, radius on the ends, wire diameter, etc.  Any info would be helpful as 
I would like to machine a few small fixtures to make them instead of trial and 
error.



Thanks,

Jim Reisenweber

Re: [Phono-L] Edison Triumph A 2/4 minute conversion kit?

[john9ten via Phono-L]

Sorry, I was thinking he would respond, he's on this board. 

 Original message 
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Date: 02/01/2016  9:40 AM  (GMT-08:00)
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His address would be helpful...



  steve_nor...@msn.com



john9ten via Phono-L wrote:




  Steve medved can assist with this. He's a genius at making correct
  sized links.



  John Robles 




   Original message 

  From: amberola75--- via Phono-L <phono-l@oldcrank.org>

  Date: 02/01/2016 6:08 AM (GMT-08:00)

  To: phono-l@oldcrank.org

  Cc: amberol...@aol.com

  Subject: [Phono-L] Edison Triumph A 2/4 minute conversion kit?



  Hello Everyone,







I was wondering if there are any printed or "known"
  specifications for the fabrication dimensions of all of the
  different Edison reproducer "S" or "C" hooks that connect the
  diaphragm to the stylus?  Like actual center to center
  distance, radius on the ends, wire diameter, etc.  Any info
  would be helpful as I would like to machine a few small
  fixtures to make them instead of trial and error. 



Thanks,
Jim Reisenweber

Re: [Phono-L] Edison Triumph A 2/4 minute conversion kit?

[SN Medved via Phono-L]

I responded off list.



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Sent: Monday, February 1, 2016 2:26 PM
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Sorry, I was thinking he would respond, he's on this board.

 Original message 
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Date: 02/01/2016 9:40 AM (GMT-08:00)
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Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Triumph A 2/4 minute conversion kit?

His address would be helpful...

steve_nor...@msn.com<mailto:steve_nor...@msn.com>

john9ten via Phono-L wrote:
Steve medved can assist with this. He's a genius at making correct sized links.

John Robles


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Date: 02/01/2016 6:08 AM (GMT-08:00)
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Subject: [Phono-L] Edison Triumph A 2/4 minute conversion kit?

Hello Everyone,

I was wondering if there are any printed or "known" specifications for the 
fabrication dimensions of all of the different Edison reproducer "S" or "C" 
hooks that connect the diaphragm to the stylus?  Like actual center to center 
distance, radius on the ends, wire diameter, etc.  Any info would be helpful as 
I would like to machine a few small fixtures to make them instead of trial and 
error.

Thanks,
Jim Reisenweber

Re: [Phono-L] Edison Triumph A 2/4 minute conversion kit?

[Darrell Lehman via Phono-L]

His address would be helpful...

steve_nor...@msn.com

john9ten via Phono-L wrote:
Steve medved can assist with this. He's a genius at making correct 
sized links.


John Robles


 Original message 
From: amberola75--- via Phono-L 
Date: 02/01/2016 6:08 AM (GMT-08:00)
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Cc: amberol...@aol.com
Subject: [Phono-L] Edison Triumph A 2/4 minute conversion kit?

Hello Everyone,

I was wondering if there are any printed or "known" specifications for 
the fabrication dimensions of all of the different Edison reproducer 
"S" or "C" hooks that connect the diaphragm to the stylus?  Like 
actual center to center distance, radius on the ends, wire diameter, 
etc.  Any info would be helpful as I would like to machine a few small 
fixtures to make them instead of trial and error.


Thanks,
Jim Reisenweber

Re: [Phono-L] Edison Triumph A 2/4 minute conversion kit?

[Ron L'Herault via Phono-L]

I knew you'd set me straight, Steve.   Thanks.

 

Ron

 

From: SN Medved via Phono-L [mailto:phono-l@oldcrank.org] 
Sent: Monday, February 01, 2016 10:22 PM
To: Antique Phonograph List
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Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Triumph A 2/4 minute conversion kit?

 

Hello Ron,

 

Edison links vary from .0175 to .0192 in diameter.  I use .020 annealed 
stainless steel wire to make links for them all except for the O and M which I 
use .018 annealed steel wire.  The O link is longer than the M link.  

 

Staple wire is too small in my opinion as it is .0175 on one side and .0186 on 
the other as it is not round.  The length is about right for the bent weight N 
but too long for the C or H.  

 

Steve

 

  _  

From: Ron L'Herault via Phono-L <phono-l@oldcrank.org>
Sent: Monday, February 1, 2016 10:10 PM
To: 'Antique Phonograph List'
Cc: Ron L'Herault
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Triumph A 2/4 minute conversion kit? 

 

I've been told that an ordinary office style staple is the right length and 
diameter for this link wire.  How far from the truth is that?

 

Ron L

 

From: amberola75--- via Phono-L [mailto:phono-l@oldcrank.org] 
Sent: Monday, February 01, 2016 9:08 AM
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Cc: amberol...@aol.com
Subject: [Phono-L] Edison Triumph A 2/4 minute conversion kit?

 

Hello Everyone, 

 

I was wondering if there are any printed or "known" specifications for the 
fabrication dimensions of all of the different Edison reproducer "S" or "C" 
hooks that connect the diaphragm to the stylus?  Like actual center to center 
distance, radius on the ends, wire diameter, etc.  Any info would be helpful as 
I would like to machine a few small fixtures to make them instead of trial and 
error. 

 

Thanks,

Jim Reisenweber

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Re: [Phono-L] Edison Triumph A 2/4 minute conversion kit?

[Ron L'Herault via Phono-L]

I've been told that an ordinary office style staple is the right length and 
diameter for this link wire.  How far from the truth is that?

 

Ron L

 

From: amberola75--- via Phono-L [mailto:phono-l@oldcrank.org] 
Sent: Monday, February 01, 2016 9:08 AM
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Cc: amberol...@aol.com
Subject: [Phono-L] Edison Triumph A 2/4 minute conversion kit?

 

Hello Everyone, 

 

I was wondering if there are any printed or "known" specifications for the 
fabrication dimensions of all of the different Edison reproducer "S" or "C" 
hooks that connect the diaphragm to the stylus?  Like actual center to center 
distance, radius on the ends, wire diameter, etc.  Any info would be helpful as 
I would like to machine a few small fixtures to make them instead of trial and 
error. 

 

Thanks,

Jim Reisenweber

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Re: [Phono-L] Edison Triumph A 2/4 minute conversion kit?

[SN Medved via Phono-L]

Hello Ron,


Edison links vary from .0175 to .0192 in diameter.  I use .020 annealed 
stainless steel wire to make links for them all except for the O and M which I 
use .018 annealed steel wire.  The O link is longer than the M link.


Staple wire is too small in my opinion as it is .0175 on one side and .0186 on 
the other as it is not round.  The length is about right for the bent weight N 
but too long for the C or H.


Steve



From: Ron L'Herault via Phono-L <phono-l@oldcrank.org>
Sent: Monday, February 1, 2016 10:10 PM
To: 'Antique Phonograph List'
Cc: Ron L'Herault
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Triumph A 2/4 minute conversion kit?


I've been told that an ordinary office style staple is the right length and 
diameter for this link wire.  How far from the truth is that?



Ron L



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Sent: Monday, February 01, 2016 9:08 AM
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Cc: amberol...@aol.com
Subject: [Phono-L] Edison Triumph A 2/4 minute conversion kit?



Hello Everyone,



I was wondering if there are any printed or "known" specifications for the 
fabrication dimensions of all of the different Edison reproducer "S" or "C" 
hooks that connect the diaphragm to the stylus?  Like actual center to center 
distance, radius on the ends, wire diameter, etc.  Any info would be helpful as 
I would like to machine a few small fixtures to make them instead of trial and 
error.



Thanks,

Jim Reisenweber

Re: [Phono-L] Edison Triumph A 2/4 minute conversion kit?

[john9ten via Phono-L]

Steve medved can assist with this. He's a genius at making correct sized links.
John Robles 

 Original message 
From: amberola75--- via Phono-L 
Date: 02/01/2016  6:08 AM  (GMT-08:00)
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Cc: amberol...@aol.com
Subject: [Phono-L]  Edison Triumph A 2/4 minute conversion kit?

Hello Everyone,













I was wondering if there are any printed or "known" specifications for the 
fabrication dimensions of all of the different Edison reproducer "S" or "C" 
hooks that connect the diaphragm to the stylus?  Like actual center to center 
distance, radius on the ends, wire diameter, etc.  Any info would be helpful as 
I would like to machine a few small fixtures to make them instead of trial and 
error. 





Thanks,

Jim Reisenweber

Re: [Phono-L] Edison Triumph A 2/4 minute conversion kit?

[SN Medved via Phono-L]

Is the screw that holds the upper bedplate down centered?  If not you have a B 
upgrade mandrel.

Steve M


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 My "A" was converted; I assume many were.


dan Kj


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Subject: [Phono-L] Edison Triumph A 2/4 minute conversion kit?


I have heard tell here and there that Edison, and possible some other
companies, produced 2/4 minute conversion kits for the Triumph model A
phonograph, but I have never seen one, and I'm not sure I know anyone who
has.  Can anyone out there confirm the existence of such a beast?  If so,
have you ever seen one for sale, and what did it go for?



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[DanK via Phono-L]

My "A" was converted; I assume many were.


dan Kj


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Subject: [Phono-L] Edison Triumph A 2/4 minute conversion kit?


I have heard tell here and there that Edison, and possible some other 
companies, produced 2/4 minute conversion kits for the Triumph model A 
phonograph, but I have never seen one, and I'm not sure I know anyone who 
has.  Can anyone out there confirm the existence of such a beast?  If so, 
have you ever seen one for sale, and what did it go for?




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Re: [Phono-L] Edison Triumph A 2/4 minute conversion kit?

[SN Medved via Phono-L]

The Triumph A 2/4 upgrade mandrel is very rare because most of the time you see 
an A it has the B upgrade mandrel on it which will fit but you have to move the 
upper bed plate all the way to the right so the belt will not hit so the screw 
holding the bedplate down will be all the way to the left and not centered in 
its lug.


All the upgrade mandrels and feedscrews are stamped.  My article below and the 
copies of the Edison letter should answer all your questions, if not please let 
me know.


I have a Triumph A with a B mandrel on it.  No other companies made them to my 
knowledge.  Edison made 2/4 upgrade mandrels and pulleys for the Concert, the 
early Spring Motor, and the ABC triumphs.


Steve




I was able to find a copy of a letter Edison sent to his dealers telling about 
the different mandrel upgrades for the home and triumphs.  If the dealers 
needed a letter, how much more will this information help us?



Here are some things that I have found from the letter and myself.  The lengths 
of the triumph feed screws are as follows:



The A is 4 27/32" and is marked T D A I  and TA on the feedscrew and the 
mandrel.

The B is 5" and is marked T D B I, TBI, or just a large TB on the mandrel and 
the end of the feed screw is also marked.

The C is 5 1/4" and is marked T D C I on the feedscrew and the mandrel. I have 
never seen a C except for a pulley.

The D and E (and F I assume) is marked T D only.

The pulley is marked with an A B C or D.





Homes:



The home is marked H B I, IHB or H A B I for the A & B and H C for C.

The home D and higher is marked H D.

If you put a Triumph B mandrel on a Triumph A you have to move the upper 
bedplate to the right all the way to compensate or the belt hits where it goes 
through the lower bedplate.  My Triumph A has a B mandrel on it.



I believe the pulleys are the same, and think the shifters on the C kits have 
the lip like the D and higher does, but I have only seen one home C and one 
triumph C with the kit so I can't say for certain.  7 or 8 Triumph C's are 
known and the Home C is very uncommon.



Until I saw this letter on eBay (I did not win it but purchased a photocopy 
from the winner) I did not know they made 5 different ones.  If anyone wants a 
copy of the letter e-mail to them please contact me.



Steve



>From Terry Baer:



The model C used a unique mandrel assembly
with "captured" bearing.  Picture an early two minute mandrel shaft.  Remove
the mandrel and turn down the area under the mandrel to about 5/16" leaving
the larger 5/8" feedscrew.  Now slip on a bearing that is 5/8 OD 5/16 ID.
Now slip on a mandrel with smaller 5/16 holes on both ends.  Now slip the
whole assembly in the top works.




From: john9ten via Phono-L <phono-l@oldcrank.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 7:26 PM
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Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Triumph A 2/4 minute conversion kit?

No access to my books right now, would it be different than the one for the 
triumph model b?

John robles


 Original message 
From: Richard Rubin via Phono-L <phono-l@oldcrank.org>
Date: 01/27/2016 3:29 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Cc: Richard Rubin <richard_ru...@hotmail.com>
Subject: [Phono-L] Edison Triumph A 2/4 minute conversion kit?

I have heard tell here and there that Edison, and possible some other 
companies, produced 2/4 minute conversion kits for the Triumph model A 
phonograph, but I have never seen one, and I'm not sure I know anyone who has.  
Can anyone out there confirm the existence of such a beast?  If so, have you 
ever seen one for sale, and what did it go for?

Re: [Phono-L] Edison Triumph A 2/4 minute conversion kit?

[Bob via Phono-L]

The feed nut and bar are offset. Bob


In a message dated 1/27/2016 7:41:46 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
phono-l@oldcrank.org writes:


The Triumph A 2/4 upgrade mandrel is very rare because most of  the time
you see an A it has the B upgrade mandrel on it which will fit but  you have
to move the upper bed plate all the way to the right so the belt will  not
hit so the screw holding the bedplate down will be all the way to the left 
and not centered in its lug.

All the upgrade mandrels and feedscrews are stamped.  My article  below and
the copies of the Edison letter should answer all your questions, if  not
please let me know.

I have a Triumph A with a B mandrel on it.  No other companies made  them
to my knowledge.  Edison made 2/4 upgrade mandrels and pulleys for  the
Concert, the early Spring Motor, and the ABC triumphs.

Steve



I was able to find  a copy of a letter Edison sent to his dealers telling
about the different  mandrel upgrades for the home and triumphs.  If the
dealers  needed a letter, how much more will this information help us?
Here are some  things that I have found from the letter and myself.  The
lengths of the  triumph feed screws are as follows:
The A is 4 27/32"  and is marked T D A I  and TA on the feedscrew and the
mandrel.
The B is 5" and is  marked T D B I, TBI, or just a large TB on the mandrel
and the end of the  feed screw is also marked.
The C is 5  1/4" and is marked T  D C I on the feedscrew and the mandrel. I
have never seen a C except for  a pulley.
The D and E (and F  I assume) is marked T D only.
The pulley is  marked with an A B C or D.
Homes:
The home is marked  H B I, IHB or H A B I for the A & B and H C for  C.
The home D and  higher is marked H D.
If you put a  Triumph B mandrel on a Triumph A you have to move the upper
bedplate to the  right all the way to compensate or the belt hits where it
goes through the  lower bedplate.  My Triumph A has a B mandrel on  it.
I believe the  pulleys are the same, and think the shifters on the C kits
have the lip like  the D and higher does, but I have only seen one home C and
one triumph C with  the kit so I can’t say for certain.  7 or 8 Triumph C’
s  are known and the Home C is very uncommon.
Until I saw this  letter on eBay (I did not win it but purchased a
photocopy from the winner) I  did not know they made 5 different ones.  If 
anyone
wants a copy of the  letter e-mail to them please contact me.
Steve
>From Terry  Baer:
The model C used a  unique mandrel assembly
with "captured" bearing.  Picture  an early two minute mandrel shaft.
Remove
the mandrel  and turn down the area under the mandrel to about 5/16" leaving
the larger  5/8" feedscrew.  Now slip on a bearing that is 5/8 OD 5/16  ID.
Now slip on a mandrel with smaller 5/16 holes on both ends.   Now slip the
whole assembly in the top works.





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No access to my books right now, would it be different than the one for
the triumph model b?


John robles


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Subject: [Phono-L] Edison Triumph A 2/4  minute conversion kit?

I have heard tell here and there that Edison, and possible some  other
companies, produced 2/4 minute conversion kits for the Triumph model A
phonograph, but I have never seen one, and I'm not sure I know anyone who  has. 
 Can
anyone out there confirm the existence of such a beast?   If so, have you
ever seen one for sale, and what did it go for?

Re: [Phono-L] Edison Triumph A 2/4 minute conversion kit?

[john9ten via Phono-L]

The conversion kit for the model b is fairly common, I have one now and had 
another in the past.John Robles 

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From: Richard Rubin via Phono-L 
Date: 01/27/2016  3:29 PM  (GMT-08:00)
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Cc: Richard Rubin 
Subject: [Phono-L] Edison Triumph A 2/4 minute conversion kit?

I have heard tell here and there that Edison, and possible some other 
companies, produced 2/4 minute conversion kits for the Triumph model A 
phonograph, but I have never seen one, and I'm not sure I know anyone who has.  
Can anyone out there confirm the existence of such a beast?  If so, have you 
ever seen one for sale, and what did it go for?