Re: [plug] PLUG Digest, Vol 119, Issue 28

2015-03-28 Thread Zak Elep 
On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 10:29 AM, Robert Locke  wrote:
>
> Thanks for the link and lightning fast approval Zak!
>
> Rob
>
>
> On Mar 29, 2015, at 10:24 AM, Zak Elep  wrote:
>
> https://www.Facebook.com/groups/linux.ph/
>

No problem :)

Also, for those interested, There are several other tech groups in
Facebook now that seem to be where the `new school` of local tech are:

- Philippine Tech Hackers (https://www.facebook.com/groups/phackers/):
melting pot for enthusiasts of all kinds
- Mech Keyboard Warriors PH
(https://www.facebook.com/groups/PHKeyboards/): for folks either using
old-school Model Ms or are building their own custom mechanicals via
Massdrop, among others
- DevOps Philippines
(https://www.facebook.com/groups/602823736428476/): most cloud and
new-school sysadmin/devops, like Docker/LXC, etc
- OpenStack Philippines
(https://www.facebook.com/groups/openstackph/): own group for the very
active OpenStack PH guys (they're also helping out on upstream
development!)

And many others (even very specialized ones like ArchPH and emacs.ph.)
Just look them up and join!


Cheers,

Zakame

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Re: [plug] PLUG Digest, Vol 119, Issue 28

2015-03-28 Thread Robert Locke 

Thanks for the link and lightning fast approval Zak!

Rob


> On Mar 29, 2015, at 10:24 AM, Zak Elep  wrote:
> 
> https://www.Facebook.com/groups/linux.ph/ 
> 
> On Mar 29, 2015 10:07 AM, "Robert Locke"  > wrote:
> 
> Facebook group?  Where’s this?  I need to get with the times!
> 
> Rob
> 
> 
> > On Mar 29, 2015, at 1:55 AM, Zak Elep  > > wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 12:19 AM, Arvin Hagad  > > wrote:
> >> guys this is tech forum for linux shiteee why u guys discuss stupid stuff 
> >> and raising point by point issue, stop whining with nonsens
> >>
> >> this forum never change like the sacha chua incident, u guys are fcktards 
> >> for real
> >
> > While I share the sentiment, it doesn't help when you express it like
> > that (this ain't /g/.)
> >
> > FWIW, it would seem that the Facebook group has largely superseded
> > this ML with actual Linux discussion, and in fact I'm helping out to
> > do a meetup soon.  So, anyone interested in talking shop about Linux,
> > and rather less on taking potshots?
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Zakame
> >
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Re: [plug] PLUG Digest, Vol 119, Issue 28

2015-03-28 Thread Zak Elep 
https://www.Facebook.com/groups/linux.ph/
On Mar 29, 2015 10:07 AM, "Robert Locke"  wrote:

>
> Facebook group?  Where’s this?  I need to get with the times!
>
> Rob
>
>
> > On Mar 29, 2015, at 1:55 AM, Zak Elep  wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 12:19 AM, Arvin Hagad  wrote:
> >> guys this is tech forum for linux shiteee why u guys discuss stupid
> stuff and raising point by point issue, stop whining with nonsens
> >>
> >> this forum never change like the sacha chua incident, u guys are
> fcktards for real
> >
> > While I share the sentiment, it doesn't help when you express it like
> > that (this ain't /g/.)
> >
> > FWIW, it would seem that the Facebook group has largely superseded
> > this ML with actual Linux discussion, and in fact I'm helping out to
> > do a meetup soon.  So, anyone interested in talking shop about Linux,
> > and rather less on taking potshots?
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Zakame
> >
> > --
> > Zak B. Elep  ||  zakame.net
> > 1486 7957 454D E529 E4F1  F75E 5787 B1FD FA53 851D
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Re: [plug] PLUG Digest, Vol 119, Issue 28

2015-03-28 Thread Robert Locke 

Facebook group?  Where’s this?  I need to get with the times!

Rob


> On Mar 29, 2015, at 1:55 AM, Zak Elep  wrote:
> 
> On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 12:19 AM, Arvin Hagad  wrote:
>> guys this is tech forum for linux shiteee why u guys discuss stupid stuff 
>> and raising point by point issue, stop whining with nonsens
>> 
>> this forum never change like the sacha chua incident, u guys are fcktards 
>> for real
> 
> While I share the sentiment, it doesn't help when you express it like
> that (this ain't /g/.)
> 
> FWIW, it would seem that the Facebook group has largely superseded
> this ML with actual Linux discussion, and in fact I'm helping out to
> do a meetup soon.  So, anyone interested in talking shop about Linux,
> and rather less on taking potshots?
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Zakame
> 
> -- 
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Re: [plug] PLUG Digest, Vol 119, Issue 28

2015-03-28 Thread Zak Elep 
On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 12:19 AM, Arvin Hagad  wrote:
> guys this is tech forum for linux shiteee why u guys discuss stupid stuff and 
> raising point by point issue, stop whining with nonsens
>
> this forum never change like the sacha chua incident, u guys are fcktards for 
> real

While I share the sentiment, it doesn't help when you express it like
that (this ain't /g/.)

FWIW, it would seem that the Facebook group has largely superseded
this ML with actual Linux discussion, and in fact I'm helping out to
do a meetup soon.  So, anyone interested in talking shop about Linux,
and rather less on taking potshots?


Cheers,

Zakame

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Re: [plug] PLUG Digest, Vol 119, Issue 28

2015-03-28 Thread Arvin Hagad 
guys this is tech forum for linux shiteee why u guys discuss stupid stuff and 
raising point by point issue, stop whining with nonsens

this forum never change like the sacha chua incident, u guys are fcktards for 
real



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> To: Rogelio Serrano ,  "Philippine Linux
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> On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 8:46 PM, Rogelio M. Serrano Jr.
>  wrote:
>> What impact are you talking about? And corruption can't stop people
>> acquiring solar power production capabilities themselves.
> 
> problem with you ... again and again and again and again you always
> love to make a wild and baseless statements without supporting facts
> and  evidences of all your claims... lets go point by point...
> 
> understand and study carefully the link below...
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_power_plants_in_the_Philippines
> 
> solar is a low efficiency energy producer compare to other sources of
> energy ... look at SaCaSol I... the largest solar plant in the
> philippines with the cost of 4.2 billion pesos... it occupies 66
> hectares of land area and ONLY produce 22 MEGAWATTS of power!.. you
> see the inefficiency there?
> 
> the proprietary thorium reactor will cost you $2M per MW of power
> (http://www.thoriumpowercanada.com/).. do the math how much will cost
> you if the exchange rate is 45 pesos to a dollar for a 22 megawatt of
> power compare to 4.2 billions of pesos of SaCaSol I?...take note that
> this is first generation of commercial thorium reactor and you will
> expect that is expensive...
> 
>> 
>> We are lucky we can do that. In Poland users of solar panels need to pay tax
>> for every kilowatt hour of electricity they use from their own solar panels.
> 
> here is your first wild and baseless statements... in poland...
> renewable energy is exempt from excise tax and not subject to real
> estate tax...
> 
> http://www.kpmg.com/global/en/issuesandinsights/articlespublications/taxes-and-incentives-for-renewable-energy/pages/poland.aspx
> 
>> Even the solar panel manufacturers have managed their waste effectively.
> 
> see.. even renewable energy produce wastes you forgot batteries
> are toxics  too... who will manage and dispose those batteries
> properly? that is another cost...
> 
>> And
>> what's the problem with using land not used for food production? You would
>> rather have people plant food crops on their roof?
> 
> there is where the impact begins.. population are growing and people
> needs land to live and to eat... do you want your solar panel which is
> not efficient in producing the energy and occupy massive land mass in
> exchange for food? .. wish you all the best to kill more people
> because of hunger and our planet is not green anymore...
> 
> as people are growing.. more houses are needed... it replace plants in
> favor of infrastructure... that is why environmentalist proposed the
> next generation of houses that their rooftop is capable to grow plants
> to compensate it
> 
> since im not against renewable energy.. my only complain of solar is
> low efficiency to produce energy... here in boston.. there is a survey
> to community this month if we go for solar roadways... yes solar cells
> inside super-strong case to replace roads to illuminate road lines
> using LED and heating elements to resist ice and snow...  as this is
> in trial stage... needs to consider personal safety (eg. wheel
> traction efficiency at high speed.. breakage treshold for super heavy
> vehicles... water leakage... etc. )
> 
> but take note if you use all the batteries in the world to store solar
> energy.. it wont last for 10 minutes to supply the current world
> energy consumption (see bill gates presentation on TED)...
> 
> 
>> And the solar manufacturers can use solar power to produce solar cells.
>> Thats interesting.
> 
> you find that interesting? that is very interesting your
> interesting... of course you need energy source... even a diesel
> generator can produce solar cells and that is very interesting too...
> 
>> Solar is very low maintenance for potentially decades. And solar cells are
>> getting