Re: [Ql-Users] PCB Design v7.52

[Norman Dunbar via Ql-Users]

Thanks Dave.

I have tried the Web based EasyEDA tool and I liked it. Unfortunately it barfs 
for me, regardless of my browser, chrome, Firefox,  opera, so I haven't got 
anything done with it yet. I'll try again as it has been a while. Time 
permitting of course. 

I will give their board manufacturing a try too.


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Re: [Ql-Users] PCB Design v7.52

[Dave Park via Ql-Users]

After trying a couple of different companies, I use EasyEDA.

Their web-based EDA tool isn't terrible either for smaller projects.

Dave

On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 4:50 PM, Norman Dunbar via Ql-Users <
ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com> wrote:

> Interesting, indeed. My boards were fine, so far, but I'll keep an eye out
> in future. If I ever get time to finish my design! (I can't do it at work
> in my lunch break!)
>
> Who does your boards now?
>
>
> Cheers,
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Re: [Ql-Users] PCB Design v7.52

[Norman Dunbar via Ql-Users]

Interesting, indeed. My boards were fine, so far, but I'll keep an eye out in 
future. If I ever get time to finish my design! (I can't do it at work in my 
lunch break!)

Who does your boards now?


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Re: [Ql-Users] PCB Design v7.52

[Dave Park via Ql-Users]

I'm an Englishman married to a Korean and my name is very Korean. She's a
Korean married to a Brit and her name's Atwood - whiter than Casper!

I used Osh Park twice. Both times I had minor quality issues with the
boards that meant every board had to be checked carefully before assembly.
Both times copper debris/incomplete etch where there shouldn't be.

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 4:30 PM, Norman Dunbar via Ql-Users <
ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com> wrote:

> I'm not an electronics expert, and I font play one on TV, but I never got
> on with Eagle very well. I had the two layer limited board sized free
> version.
>
> I use Fritzing these days and Kicad. It depends. For something quick and
> dirty,  I tend to drop into the former.  For my ongoing attempt at a DIY
> "Arduino" it's Kicad.
>
> Osh Park (no relation Dave?) do my boards for me. Good quality, free
> postage too.
>
>
> Cheers,
> Norm.
>
> On 26 July 2017 21:00:41 BST, Dave Park via Ql-Users <
> ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com> wrote:
> >This amuses me as I just quit using Eagle this year because I could not
> >stand it any more.
> >
> >And my educational license expired and they wanted HOW MUCH?!?!?!
> >
> >*cough*
> >
> >On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 2:49 PM, Marcel Kilgus via Ql-Users <
> >ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Dilwyn Jones via Ql-Users wrote:
> >> > Malcolm Lear has made available an updated v7.52 of his PCB Design
> >> program.
> >> > Download from http://www.dilwyn.me.uk/graphics/index.html
> >>
> >> I will not quit using Eagle anytime soon, but I tried PCB Design
> >> nonetheless and I must say the examples look pretty amazing. Good
> >job.
> >>
> >> Cheers, Marcel
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Re: [Ql-Users] PCB Design v7.52

[Dave Park via Ql-Users]

This amuses me as I just quit using Eagle this year because I could not
stand it any more.

And my educational license expired and they wanted HOW MUCH?!?!?!

*cough*

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 2:49 PM, Marcel Kilgus via Ql-Users <
ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com> wrote:

> Dilwyn Jones via Ql-Users wrote:
> > Malcolm Lear has made available an updated v7.52 of his PCB Design
> program.
> > Download from http://www.dilwyn.me.uk/graphics/index.html
>
> I will not quit using Eagle anytime soon, but I tried PCB Design
> nonetheless and I must say the examples look pretty amazing. Good job.
>
> Cheers, Marcel
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Re: [Ql-Users] PCB Design v7.52

[Marcel Kilgus via Ql-Users]

Dilwyn Jones via Ql-Users wrote:
> Malcolm Lear has made available an updated v7.52 of his PCB Design program.
> Download from http://www.dilwyn.me.uk/graphics/index.html

I will not quit using Eagle anytime soon, but I tried PCB Design
nonetheless and I must say the examples look pretty amazing. Good job.

Cheers, Marcel

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Re: [Ql-Users] PCB Design v7.52

[Dilwyn Jones via Ql-Users]

I did send a similar reply but it doesn't seem to have arrived. I copied the 
original query from Wolfgang to the author (Malcolm Lear) in case he doesn't 
read this list.


Looks like yahoo mail playing up on me again, seem to get two copies of all 
mails to the list and some of my mails don't get through. Hmm...


Dilwyn

-Original Message- 
From: Wolf via Ql-Users

Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2017 6:43 AM
To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] PCB Design v7.52

Hi Michael,


There is the -Q1 option in unzip to reverse the "_" <-> "."
Eg. EX unzip,#1; "-Q1 dos7_PCBDesign752.zip -d ram6_"
and they all come out with dots in them !



Great, thanks for pointing that out.


I have run the code and this does work well using QPC2, in extended screen 
size.




Ok, I'll have to recheck, then


WOlfgang
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Re: [Ql-Users] PCB Design v7.52

[Wolf via Ql-Users]

Hi Michael,


There is the -Q1 option in unzip to reverse the "_" <-> "."
Eg. EX unzip,#1; "-Q1 dos7_PCBDesign752.zip -d ram6_"
and they all come out with dots in them !



Great, thanks for pointing that out.



I have run the code and this does work well using QPC2, in extended screen size.



Ok, I'll have to recheck, then


WOlfgang
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Re: [Ql-Users] PCB Design v7.52

[Malcolm via Ql-Users]

I'll also fix those assignments

On 22 July 2017 18:34:38 BST, Michael Bulford via Ql-Users 
 wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Wolf wrote: 
>> In the boot all file separators are "." (eg. "tk.bin"), but when 
>> dezipped, the file separators are "_" as they should be, so the boot 
>> can't find them.
>
>There is the -Q1 option in unzip to reverse the "_" <-> "." 
>Eg. EX unzip,#1; "-Q1 dos7_PCBDesign752.zip -d ram6_"
>and they all come out with dots in them !
>
>I have run the code and this does work well using QPC2, in extended
>screen size.
>
>As a matter of interest, I tried my new Turbo parser on the BASIC code,
>and this was the result ..
>
> ERROR at 32210: Variable assignment expected.  
> Warning at 2570: Not assigned: global WinW2  
> Warning at 2570: Not assigned: global WinH2  
> Warning at 2570: Not assigned: global WinX2  
> Warning at 2570: Not assigned: global WinY2  
> Warning at 15290: Not assigned: global GScale 
>
>TURBO: Parsing done, at 197440 statements per minute.
>1 error and 5 warnings.
>
>The 1 ERROR refers to "CD" which presumably is CHANGE_DIR, or DATA_USE
>
>The 5 variables would have been initialised to zero, which may be
>acceptable,
>unless you are using "AH" or "JM", in which case you'll get an "error
>in expression".
>
>Michael
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Re: [Ql-Users] PCB Design v7.52

[Malcolm via Ql-Users]

Sorry the 'CD' was just in there for development, delete the line and all 
should be  fine ))

On 22 July 2017 18:34:38 BST, Michael Bulford via Ql-Users 
 wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Wolf wrote: 
>> In the boot all file separators are "." (eg. "tk.bin"), but when 
>> dezipped, the file separators are "_" as they should be, so the boot 
>> can't find them.
>
>There is the -Q1 option in unzip to reverse the "_" <-> "." 
>Eg. EX unzip,#1; "-Q1 dos7_PCBDesign752.zip -d ram6_"
>and they all come out with dots in them !
>
>I have run the code and this does work well using QPC2, in extended
>screen size.
>
>As a matter of interest, I tried my new Turbo parser on the BASIC code,
>and this was the result ..
>
> ERROR at 32210: Variable assignment expected.  
> Warning at 2570: Not assigned: global WinW2  
> Warning at 2570: Not assigned: global WinH2  
> Warning at 2570: Not assigned: global WinX2  
> Warning at 2570: Not assigned: global WinY2  
> Warning at 15290: Not assigned: global GScale 
>
>TURBO: Parsing done, at 197440 statements per minute.
>1 error and 5 warnings.
>
>The 1 ERROR refers to "CD" which presumably is CHANGE_DIR, or DATA_USE
>
>The 5 variables would have been initialised to zero, which may be
>acceptable,
>unless you are using "AH" or "JM", in which case you'll get an "error
>in expression".
>
>Michael
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Re: [Ql-Users] PCB Design v7.52

[Michael Bulford via Ql-Users]

Hi,

Wolf wrote: 
> In the boot all file separators are "." (eg. "tk.bin"), but when 
> dezipped, the file separators are "_" as they should be, so the boot 
> can't find them.

There is the -Q1 option in unzip to reverse the "_" <-> "." 
Eg. EX unzip,#1; "-Q1 dos7_PCBDesign752.zip -d ram6_"
and they all come out with dots in them !

I have run the code and this does work well using QPC2, in extended screen size.

As a matter of interest, I tried my new Turbo parser on the BASIC code, and 
this was the result ..

 ERROR at 32210: Variable assignment expected.  
 Warning at 2570: Not assigned: global WinW2  
 Warning at 2570: Not assigned: global WinH2  
 Warning at 2570: Not assigned: global WinX2  
 Warning at 2570: Not assigned: global WinY2  
 Warning at 15290: Not assigned: global GScale 

TURBO: Parsing done, at 197440 statements per minute.
1 error and 5 warnings.

The 1 ERROR refers to "CD" which presumably is CHANGE_DIR, or DATA_USE

The 5 variables would have been initialised to zero, which may be acceptable,
unless you are using "AH" or "JM", in which case you'll get an "error in 
expression".

Michael
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Re: [Ql-Users] PCB Design v7.52

[Wolf via Ql-Users]

Hi,

Thanks for that.

In the boot all file separators are "." (eg. "tk.bin"), but when 
dezipped, the file separators are "_" as they should be, so the boot 
can't find them.


This also doesn"t seem to wrok with an extended screen under SMSQ/E?

Wolfgang



On 21/07/2017 14:31, Dilwyn Jones via Ql-Users wrote:

Lear PCB Design 7.52

Malcolm Lear has made available an updated v7.52 of his PCB Design 
program. Download from http://www.dilwyn.me.uk/graphics/index.html


Malcolm says there are many improvements and refinements, so here's an 
extract from the REVISIONS.TXT file in the program listing major changes 
in recent versions:



7.49 08-04-17 Text element was being routed though the fingerpad 
detection filter in all export modes resulting in some missing text. 
This is now fixed.


7.50 Multipage loading screen suffered lost of first character in file 
names, this is now fixed. This issue only likely showed on low 
resolution platforms such as the QL.

Function to report project file revision after loading implemented.
Nasty assembler bug that performed a word write to odd boundary when 
requesting predefined components now fixed. This problem was overlooked 
for some time due to the authors 68020 based development system.

Pad based bombsight marker is deprecated and now track based.
Automatic bombsight conversion on load has been implemented.
Flood fill clearance saved in project file (information block).
Default new label positioning, layer and orientation now based on 
properties of existing labels.

Text size on predefined fiducial corrected.
Edit mode changed from bit tests and sets to absolute values in 
assembler code thus eliminating ambiguous values.


7.51 More assembler tidying up and minimizing.

7.52 All labels, not just the first 5 can now be switched on or 2Kb of 
unused dataspace (dot matrix label buffer) removed.


Dilwyn.
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[Ql-Users] PCB Design v7.52

[Dilwyn Jones via Ql-Users]

Lear PCB Design 7.52

Malcolm Lear has made available an updated v7.52 of his PCB Design program. 
Download from http://www.dilwyn.me.uk/graphics/index.html


Malcolm says there are many improvements and refinements, so here's an 
extract from the REVISIONS.TXT file in the program listing major changes in 
recent versions:



7.49 08-04-17 Text element was being routed though the fingerpad detection 
filter in all export modes resulting in some missing text. This is now 
fixed.


7.50 Multipage loading screen suffered lost of first character in file 
names, this is now fixed. This issue only likely showed on low resolution 
platforms such as the QL.

Function to report project file revision after loading implemented.
Nasty assembler bug that performed a word write to odd boundary when 
requesting predefined components now fixed. This problem was overlooked for 
some time due to the authors 68020 based development system.

Pad based bombsight marker is deprecated and now track based.
Automatic bombsight conversion on load has been implemented.
Flood fill clearance saved in project file (information block).
Default new label positioning, layer and orientation now based on properties 
of existing labels.

Text size on predefined fiducial corrected.
Edit mode changed from bit tests and sets to absolute values in assembler 
code thus eliminating ambiguous values.


7.51 More assembler tidying up and minimizing.

7.52 All labels, not just the first 5 can now be switched on or 2Kb of 
unused dataspace (dot matrix label buffer) removed.


Dilwyn. 


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