Re: Hangout
Great! Thanks. On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 8:20 AM, kishore g wrote: > I am sorry about the time, i realized it when no one turned up from China > time. We can definitely have the discussion on mailing list. I will start a > separate thread on S4 roadmap. > > thanks, > Kishore G > > > On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 10:03 PM, Sujun Cheng > wrote: > > > Hey, I hope I could also join in next time, while the time seems too late > > for us in China.. Open topics for discuss is good. > > > > thanks > > Aimee > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Oleg Tikhonov wrote: > > > > > Hi guys, > > > for me also such time slot did not fit well, there was about 12 hours > > gap. > > > However, we always can open topics, discuss on them etc. > > > > > > Any way, thank you for making it come true. > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Oleg > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 11:18 PM, Renato Marroquín Mogrovejo < > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Maybe deciding on which topics to discuss could also help, discussing > > on > > > > the project's roadmap for example. > > > > For me unfortunately, it is a difficult time slot. Hope to make it to > > the > > > > next virtual meetup ;) > > > > > > > > > > > > Renato M. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2013/9/11 Flavio Junqueira > > > > > > > > > I don't know of a better alternative. Some projects use IRC. > > > > > > > > > > I couldn't make it earlier today, but otherwise it is a good slot > > for > > > > > me. It would be good to make sure that the other guys who have > > started > > > > > contributing recently can attend. > > > > > > > > > > -Flavio > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > > From: "kishore g" > > > > > Sent: 11/09/2013 20:27 > > > > > To: "[email protected]" > > > > > Subject: Re: Hangout > > > > > > > > > > Matthieu, Daniel and I were present. We dint have much to discuss > > :-). > > > > > Probably hangout is not a good idea because of the time difference. > > Let > > > > us > > > > > know if there is a better alternative. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 6:58 AM, kishore g > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Here is the hangout url > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/052db77c79f4755f6ada03a0c6e9249293d34276?authuser=0&hl=en > > > > > . > > > > > > its named "Apache S4" > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks, > > > > > > Kishore G > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 8:16 PM, kishore g > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >> I will post the hangout url tomorrow. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 2:55 AM, Daniel Gómez Ferro < > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > >> > wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > >>> I'll try to make it as well, but I'm not sure whether I'll be > > able > > > or > > > > > >>> not. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Thanks for taking the time to set it up Kishore! > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Regards, > > > > > >>> Daniel > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 7:13 PM, Renato Marroquín Mogrovejo < > > > > > >>> [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > Friday would work better for me ): but whatever people > decide, > > I > > > > will > > > > > >>> try > > > > > >>> > to make it (= > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > &
Re: Hangout
I am sorry about the time, i realized it when no one turned up from China time. We can definitely have the discussion on mailing list. I will start a separate thread on S4 roadmap. thanks, Kishore G On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 10:03 PM, Sujun Cheng wrote: > Hey, I hope I could also join in next time, while the time seems too late > for us in China.. Open topics for discuss is good. > > thanks > Aimee > > > On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Oleg Tikhonov wrote: > > > Hi guys, > > for me also such time slot did not fit well, there was about 12 hours > gap. > > However, we always can open topics, discuss on them etc. > > > > Any way, thank you for making it come true. > > > > > > Cheers, > > Oleg > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 11:18 PM, Renato Marroquín Mogrovejo < > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Maybe deciding on which topics to discuss could also help, discussing > on > > > the project's roadmap for example. > > > For me unfortunately, it is a difficult time slot. Hope to make it to > the > > > next virtual meetup ;) > > > > > > > > > Renato M. > > > > > > > > > 2013/9/11 Flavio Junqueira > > > > > > > I don't know of a better alternative. Some projects use IRC. > > > > > > > > I couldn't make it earlier today, but otherwise it is a good slot > for > > > > me. It would be good to make sure that the other guys who have > started > > > > contributing recently can attend. > > > > > > > > -Flavio > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > From: "kishore g" > > > > Sent: 11/09/2013 20:27 > > > > To: "[email protected]" > > > > Subject: Re: Hangout > > > > > > > > Matthieu, Daniel and I were present. We dint have much to discuss > :-). > > > > Probably hangout is not a good idea because of the time difference. > Let > > > us > > > > know if there is a better alternative. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 6:58 AM, kishore g > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Here is the hangout url > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/052db77c79f4755f6ada03a0c6e9249293d34276?authuser=0&hl=en > > > > . > > > > > its named "Apache S4" > > > > > > > > > > thanks, > > > > > Kishore G > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 8:16 PM, kishore g > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> I will post the hangout url tomorrow. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 2:55 AM, Daniel Gómez Ferro < > > > > [email protected] > > > > >> > wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >>> I'll try to make it as well, but I'm not sure whether I'll be > able > > or > > > > >>> not. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Thanks for taking the time to set it up Kishore! > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Regards, > > > > >>> Daniel > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 7:13 PM, Renato Marroquín Mogrovejo < > > > > >>> [email protected]> wrote: > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > Friday would work better for me ): but whatever people decide, > I > > > will > > > > >>> try > > > > >>> > to make it (= > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > Renato M. > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > 2013/9/8 kishore g > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > ok, wednesday 7AM-8AM it is. I am down with sore throat but > > hope > > > to > > > > >>> > recover > > > > >>> > > by wednesday. > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 6:48 AM, Matthieu Morel <
Re: Hangout
Hey, I hope I could also join in next time, while the time seems too late for us in China.. Open topics for discuss is good. thanks Aimee On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Oleg Tikhonov wrote: > Hi guys, > for me also such time slot did not fit well, there was about 12 hours gap. > However, we always can open topics, discuss on them etc. > > Any way, thank you for making it come true. > > > Cheers, > Oleg > > > On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 11:18 PM, Renato Marroquín Mogrovejo < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > Maybe deciding on which topics to discuss could also help, discussing on > > the project's roadmap for example. > > For me unfortunately, it is a difficult time slot. Hope to make it to the > > next virtual meetup ;) > > > > > > Renato M. > > > > > > 2013/9/11 Flavio Junqueira > > > > > I don't know of a better alternative. Some projects use IRC. > > > > > > I couldn't make it earlier today, but otherwise it is a good slot for > > > me. It would be good to make sure that the other guys who have started > > > contributing recently can attend. > > > > > > -Flavio > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: "kishore g" > > > Sent: 11/09/2013 20:27 > > > To: "[email protected]" > > > Subject: Re: Hangout > > > > > > Matthieu, Daniel and I were present. We dint have much to discuss :-). > > > Probably hangout is not a good idea because of the time difference. Let > > us > > > know if there is a better alternative. > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 6:58 AM, kishore g > wrote: > > > > > > > Here is the hangout url > > > > > > > > > > https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/052db77c79f4755f6ada03a0c6e9249293d34276?authuser=0&hl=en > > > . > > > > its named "Apache S4" > > > > > > > > thanks, > > > > Kishore G > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 8:16 PM, kishore g > > wrote: > > > > > > > >> I will post the hangout url tomorrow. > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 2:55 AM, Daniel Gómez Ferro < > > > [email protected] > > > >> > wrote: > > > >> > > > >>> I'll try to make it as well, but I'm not sure whether I'll be able > or > > > >>> not. > > > >>> > > > >>> Thanks for taking the time to set it up Kishore! > > > >>> > > > >>> Regards, > > > >>> Daniel > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 7:13 PM, Renato Marroquín Mogrovejo < > > > >>> [email protected]> wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>> > Friday would work better for me ): but whatever people decide, I > > will > > > >>> try > > > >>> > to make it (= > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > Renato M. > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > 2013/9/8 kishore g > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > ok, wednesday 7AM-8AM it is. I am down with sore throat but > hope > > to > > > >>> > recover > > > >>> > > by wednesday. > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 6:48 AM, Matthieu Morel < > > [email protected]> > > > >>> > wrote: > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > This timeframe is fine for me as well. Better between > wednesday > > > and > > > >>> > > friday > > > >>> > > > included. > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > Thanks, > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > Matthieu > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > On Sep 5, 2013, at 19:18 , kishore g > > > wrote: > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > Will set up one next week. Any preference on time and > day?. I > > > >>> guess > > > >>> > the > > > >>> > > > > timezone difference will make it difficult to get a time > > > >>> convenient > > > >>> > for > > > >>> > > > > every one. > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > Kishore, 7AM-10AM PST works best for me. > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > thanks > > > >>> > > > > Kishore G > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Oleg Tikhonov < > > > [email protected]> > > > >>> > > wrote: > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > >> Good idea, indeed. +1. > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >>> > > > >> BTW, blogging about S4 may increase visibility, attract > new > > > >>> users > > > >>> > etc. > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >>> > > > >> Cheers, > > > >>> > > > >> Oleg > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >>> > > > >> On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 7:53 PM, kishore g < > > > [email protected]> > > > >>> > > wrote: > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >>> > > > >>> Hi, > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> As we have more folks interested in contributing to S4, > > will > > > >>> it be > > > >>> > a > > > >>> > > > good > > > >>> > > > >>> idea to setup a hangout. We can know each other and > > probably > > > >>> > discuss > > > >>> > > > >>> roadmap and get ideas from every one as to things that > need > > > to > > > >>> be > > > >>> > > > >>> fixed/improved. > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> What do you think ? > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> thanks, > > > >>> > > > >>> Kishore G > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >
Re: Hangout
Hi guys, for me also such time slot did not fit well, there was about 12 hours gap. However, we always can open topics, discuss on them etc. Any way, thank you for making it come true. Cheers, Oleg On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 11:18 PM, Renato Marroquín Mogrovejo < [email protected]> wrote: > Maybe deciding on which topics to discuss could also help, discussing on > the project's roadmap for example. > For me unfortunately, it is a difficult time slot. Hope to make it to the > next virtual meetup ;) > > > Renato M. > > > 2013/9/11 Flavio Junqueira > > > I don't know of a better alternative. Some projects use IRC. > > > > I couldn't make it earlier today, but otherwise it is a good slot for > > me. It would be good to make sure that the other guys who have started > > contributing recently can attend. > > > > -Flavio > > > > -Original Message----- > > From: "kishore g" > > Sent: 11/09/2013 20:27 > > To: "[email protected]" > > Subject: Re: Hangout > > > > Matthieu, Daniel and I were present. We dint have much to discuss :-). > > Probably hangout is not a good idea because of the time difference. Let > us > > know if there is a better alternative. > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 6:58 AM, kishore g wrote: > > > > > Here is the hangout url > > > > > > https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/052db77c79f4755f6ada03a0c6e9249293d34276?authuser=0&hl=en > > . > > > its named "Apache S4" > > > > > > thanks, > > > Kishore G > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 8:16 PM, kishore g > wrote: > > > > > >> I will post the hangout url tomorrow. > > >> > > >> > > >> On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 2:55 AM, Daniel Gómez Ferro < > > [email protected] > > >> > wrote: > > >> > > >>> I'll try to make it as well, but I'm not sure whether I'll be able or > > >>> not. > > >>> > > >>> Thanks for taking the time to set it up Kishore! > > >>> > > >>> Regards, > > >>> Daniel > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 7:13 PM, Renato Marroquín Mogrovejo < > > >>> [email protected]> wrote: > > >>> > > >>> > Friday would work better for me ): but whatever people decide, I > will > > >>> try > > >>> > to make it (= > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > Renato M. > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > 2013/9/8 kishore g > > >>> > > > >>> > > ok, wednesday 7AM-8AM it is. I am down with sore throat but hope > to > > >>> > recover > > >>> > > by wednesday. > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 6:48 AM, Matthieu Morel < > [email protected]> > > >>> > wrote: > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > This timeframe is fine for me as well. Better between wednesday > > and > > >>> > > friday > > >>> > > > included. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > Thanks, > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > Matthieu > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > On Sep 5, 2013, at 19:18 , kishore g > > wrote: > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > Will set up one next week. Any preference on time and day?. I > > >>> guess > > >>> > the > > >>> > > > > timezone difference will make it difficult to get a time > > >>> convenient > > >>> > for > > >>> > > > > every one. > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > Kishore, 7AM-10AM PST works best for me. > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > thanks > > >>> > > > > Kishore G > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Oleg Tikhonov < > > [email protected]> > > >>> > > wrote: > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > >> Good idea, indeed. +1. > > >>> > > > >> > > >>> > > > >> BTW, blogging about S4 may increase visibility, attract new > > >>> users > > >>> > etc. > > >>> > > > >> > > >>> > > > >> Cheers, > > >>> > > > >> Oleg > > >>> > > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >>> > > > >> On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 7:53 PM, kishore g < > > [email protected]> > > >>> > > wrote: > > >>> > > > >> > > >>> > > > >>> Hi, > > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > > > >>> As we have more folks interested in contributing to S4, > will > > >>> it be > > >>> > a > > >>> > > > good > > >>> > > > >>> idea to setup a hangout. We can know each other and > probably > > >>> > discuss > > >>> > > > >>> roadmap and get ideas from every one as to things that need > > to > > >>> be > > >>> > > > >>> fixed/improved. > > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > > > >>> What do you think ? > > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > > > >>> thanks, > > >>> > > > >>> Kishore G > > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > > > >> > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > > > > >
RE: Hangout
I don't know of a better alternative. Some projects use IRC. I couldn't make it earlier today, but otherwise it is a good slot for me. It would be good to make sure that the other guys who have started contributing recently can attend. -Flavio -Original Message- From: "kishore g" Sent: 11/09/2013 20:27 To: "[email protected]" Subject: Re: Hangout Matthieu, Daniel and I were present. We dint have much to discuss :-). Probably hangout is not a good idea because of the time difference. Let us know if there is a better alternative. On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 6:58 AM, kishore g wrote: > Here is the hangout url > https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/052db77c79f4755f6ada03a0c6e9249293d34276?authuser=0&hl=en. > its named "Apache S4" > > thanks, > Kishore G > > > On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 8:16 PM, kishore g wrote: > >> I will post the hangout url tomorrow. >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 2:55 AM, Daniel Gómez Ferro > > wrote: >> >>> I'll try to make it as well, but I'm not sure whether I'll be able or >>> not. >>> >>> Thanks for taking the time to set it up Kishore! >>> >>> Regards, >>> Daniel >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 7:13 PM, Renato Marroquín Mogrovejo < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> > Friday would work better for me ): but whatever people decide, I will >>> try >>> > to make it (= >>> > >>> > >>> > Renato M. >>> > >>> > >>> > 2013/9/8 kishore g >>> > >>> > > ok, wednesday 7AM-8AM it is. I am down with sore throat but hope to >>> > recover >>> > > by wednesday. >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 6:48 AM, Matthieu Morel >>> > wrote: >>> > > >>> > > > This timeframe is fine for me as well. Better between wednesday and >>> > > friday >>> > > > included. >>> > > > >>> > > > Thanks, >>> > > > >>> > > > Matthieu >>> > > > >>> > > > On Sep 5, 2013, at 19:18 , kishore g wrote: >>> > > > >>> > > > > Will set up one next week. Any preference on time and day?. I >>> guess >>> > the >>> > > > > timezone difference will make it difficult to get a time >>> convenient >>> > for >>> > > > > every one. >>> > > > > >>> > > > > Kishore, 7AM-10AM PST works best for me. >>> > > > > >>> > > > > thanks >>> > > > > Kishore G >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Oleg Tikhonov >>> > > wrote: >>> > > > > >>> > > > >> Good idea, indeed. +1. >>> > > > >> >>> > > > >> BTW, blogging about S4 may increase visibility, attract new >>> users >>> > etc. >>> > > > >> >>> > > > >> Cheers, >>> > > > >> Oleg >>> > > > >> >>> > > > >> >>> > > > >> >>> > > > >> On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 7:53 PM, kishore g >>> > > wrote: >>> > > > >> >>> > > > >>> Hi, >>> > > > >>> >>> > > > >>> As we have more folks interested in contributing to S4, will >>> it be >>> > a >>> > > > good >>> > > > >>> idea to setup a hangout. We can know each other and probably >>> > discuss >>> > > > >>> roadmap and get ideas from every one as to things that need to >>> be >>> > > > >>> fixed/improved. >>> > > > >>> >>> > > > >>> What do you think ? >>> > > > >>> >>> > > > >>> thanks, >>> > > > >>> Kishore G >>> > > > >>> >>> > > > >> >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > >>> >> >> >
Re: Hangout
Maybe deciding on which topics to discuss could also help, discussing on the project's roadmap for example. For me unfortunately, it is a difficult time slot. Hope to make it to the next virtual meetup ;) Renato M. 2013/9/11 Flavio Junqueira > I don't know of a better alternative. Some projects use IRC. > > I couldn't make it earlier today, but otherwise it is a good slot for > me. It would be good to make sure that the other guys who have started > contributing recently can attend. > > -Flavio > > -Original Message- > From: "kishore g" > Sent: 11/09/2013 20:27 > To: "[email protected]" > Subject: Re: Hangout > > Matthieu, Daniel and I were present. We dint have much to discuss :-). > Probably hangout is not a good idea because of the time difference. Let us > know if there is a better alternative. > > > On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 6:58 AM, kishore g wrote: > > > Here is the hangout url > > > https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/052db77c79f4755f6ada03a0c6e9249293d34276?authuser=0&hl=en > . > > its named "Apache S4" > > > > thanks, > > Kishore G > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 8:16 PM, kishore g wrote: > > > >> I will post the hangout url tomorrow. > >> > >> > >> On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 2:55 AM, Daniel Gómez Ferro < > [email protected] > >> > wrote: > >> > >>> I'll try to make it as well, but I'm not sure whether I'll be able or > >>> not. > >>> > >>> Thanks for taking the time to set it up Kishore! > >>> > >>> Regards, > >>> Daniel > >>> > >>> > >>> On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 7:13 PM, Renato Marroquín Mogrovejo < > >>> [email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>> > Friday would work better for me ): but whatever people decide, I will > >>> try > >>> > to make it (= > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > Renato M. > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > 2013/9/8 kishore g > >>> > > >>> > > ok, wednesday 7AM-8AM it is. I am down with sore throat but hope to > >>> > recover > >>> > > by wednesday. > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 6:48 AM, Matthieu Morel > >>> > wrote: > >>> > > > >>> > > > This timeframe is fine for me as well. Better between wednesday > and > >>> > > friday > >>> > > > included. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > Thanks, > >>> > > > > >>> > > > Matthieu > >>> > > > > >>> > > > On Sep 5, 2013, at 19:18 , kishore g > wrote: > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > Will set up one next week. Any preference on time and day?. I > >>> guess > >>> > the > >>> > > > > timezone difference will make it difficult to get a time > >>> convenient > >>> > for > >>> > > > > every one. > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > Kishore, 7AM-10AM PST works best for me. > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > thanks > >>> > > > > Kishore G > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Oleg Tikhonov < > [email protected]> > >>> > > wrote: > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > >> Good idea, indeed. +1. > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >> BTW, blogging about S4 may increase visibility, attract new > >>> users > >>> > etc. > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >> Cheers, > >>> > > > >> Oleg > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >> On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 7:53 PM, kishore g < > [email protected]> > >>> > > wrote: > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >>> Hi, > >>> > > > >>> > >>> > > > >>> As we have more folks interested in contributing to S4, will > >>> it be > >>> > a > >>> > > > good > >>> > > > >>> idea to setup a hangout. We can know each other and probably > >>> > discuss > >>> > > > >>> roadmap and get ideas from every one as to things that need > to > >>> be > >>> > > > >>> fixed/improved. > >>> > > > >>> > >>> > > > >>> What do you think ? > >>> > > > >>> > >>> > > > >>> thanks, > >>> > > > >>> Kishore G > >>> > > > >>> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > >> > >> > > >
Re: Hangout
Matthieu, Daniel and I were present. We dint have much to discuss :-). Probably hangout is not a good idea because of the time difference. Let us know if there is a better alternative. On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 6:58 AM, kishore g wrote: > Here is the hangout url > https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/052db77c79f4755f6ada03a0c6e9249293d34276?authuser=0&hl=en. > its named "Apache S4" > > thanks, > Kishore G > > > On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 8:16 PM, kishore g wrote: > >> I will post the hangout url tomorrow. >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 2:55 AM, Daniel Gómez Ferro > > wrote: >> >>> I'll try to make it as well, but I'm not sure whether I'll be able or >>> not. >>> >>> Thanks for taking the time to set it up Kishore! >>> >>> Regards, >>> Daniel >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 7:13 PM, Renato Marroquín Mogrovejo < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> > Friday would work better for me ): but whatever people decide, I will >>> try >>> > to make it (= >>> > >>> > >>> > Renato M. >>> > >>> > >>> > 2013/9/8 kishore g >>> > >>> > > ok, wednesday 7AM-8AM it is. I am down with sore throat but hope to >>> > recover >>> > > by wednesday. >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 6:48 AM, Matthieu Morel >>> > wrote: >>> > > >>> > > > This timeframe is fine for me as well. Better between wednesday and >>> > > friday >>> > > > included. >>> > > > >>> > > > Thanks, >>> > > > >>> > > > Matthieu >>> > > > >>> > > > On Sep 5, 2013, at 19:18 , kishore g wrote: >>> > > > >>> > > > > Will set up one next week. Any preference on time and day?. I >>> guess >>> > the >>> > > > > timezone difference will make it difficult to get a time >>> convenient >>> > for >>> > > > > every one. >>> > > > > >>> > > > > Kishore, 7AM-10AM PST works best for me. >>> > > > > >>> > > > > thanks >>> > > > > Kishore G >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Oleg Tikhonov >>> > > wrote: >>> > > > > >>> > > > >> Good idea, indeed. +1. >>> > > > >> >>> > > > >> BTW, blogging about S4 may increase visibility, attract new >>> users >>> > etc. >>> > > > >> >>> > > > >> Cheers, >>> > > > >> Oleg >>> > > > >> >>> > > > >> >>> > > > >> >>> > > > >> On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 7:53 PM, kishore g >>> > > wrote: >>> > > > >> >>> > > > >>> Hi, >>> > > > >>> >>> > > > >>> As we have more folks interested in contributing to S4, will >>> it be >>> > a >>> > > > good >>> > > > >>> idea to setup a hangout. We can know each other and probably >>> > discuss >>> > > > >>> roadmap and get ideas from every one as to things that need to >>> be >>> > > > >>> fixed/improved. >>> > > > >>> >>> > > > >>> What do you think ? >>> > > > >>> >>> > > > >>> thanks, >>> > > > >>> Kishore G >>> > > > >>> >>> > > > >> >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > >>> >> >> >
Re: Hangout
Here is the hangout url https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/052db77c79f4755f6ada03a0c6e9249293d34276?authuser=0&hl=en. its named "Apache S4" thanks, Kishore G On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 8:16 PM, kishore g wrote: > I will post the hangout url tomorrow. > > > On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 2:55 AM, Daniel Gómez Ferro > wrote: > >> I'll try to make it as well, but I'm not sure whether I'll be able or not. >> >> Thanks for taking the time to set it up Kishore! >> >> Regards, >> Daniel >> >> >> On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 7:13 PM, Renato Marroquín Mogrovejo < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> > Friday would work better for me ): but whatever people decide, I will >> try >> > to make it (= >> > >> > >> > Renato M. >> > >> > >> > 2013/9/8 kishore g >> > >> > > ok, wednesday 7AM-8AM it is. I am down with sore throat but hope to >> > recover >> > > by wednesday. >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 6:48 AM, Matthieu Morel >> > wrote: >> > > >> > > > This timeframe is fine for me as well. Better between wednesday and >> > > friday >> > > > included. >> > > > >> > > > Thanks, >> > > > >> > > > Matthieu >> > > > >> > > > On Sep 5, 2013, at 19:18 , kishore g wrote: >> > > > >> > > > > Will set up one next week. Any preference on time and day?. I >> guess >> > the >> > > > > timezone difference will make it difficult to get a time >> convenient >> > for >> > > > > every one. >> > > > > >> > > > > Kishore, 7AM-10AM PST works best for me. >> > > > > >> > > > > thanks >> > > > > Kishore G >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Oleg Tikhonov >> > > wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > >> Good idea, indeed. +1. >> > > > >> >> > > > >> BTW, blogging about S4 may increase visibility, attract new users >> > etc. >> > > > >> >> > > > >> Cheers, >> > > > >> Oleg >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 7:53 PM, kishore g >> > > wrote: >> > > > >> >> > > > >>> Hi, >> > > > >>> >> > > > >>> As we have more folks interested in contributing to S4, will it >> be >> > a >> > > > good >> > > > >>> idea to setup a hangout. We can know each other and probably >> > discuss >> > > > >>> roadmap and get ideas from every one as to things that need to >> be >> > > > >>> fixed/improved. >> > > > >>> >> > > > >>> What do you think ? >> > > > >>> >> > > > >>> thanks, >> > > > >>> Kishore G >> > > > >>> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > >
Re: Hangout
I will post the hangout url tomorrow. On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 2:55 AM, Daniel Gómez Ferro wrote: > I'll try to make it as well, but I'm not sure whether I'll be able or not. > > Thanks for taking the time to set it up Kishore! > > Regards, > Daniel > > > On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 7:13 PM, Renato Marroquín Mogrovejo < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > Friday would work better for me ): but whatever people decide, I will try > > to make it (= > > > > > > Renato M. > > > > > > 2013/9/8 kishore g > > > > > ok, wednesday 7AM-8AM it is. I am down with sore throat but hope to > > recover > > > by wednesday. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 6:48 AM, Matthieu Morel > > wrote: > > > > > > > This timeframe is fine for me as well. Better between wednesday and > > > friday > > > > included. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Matthieu > > > > > > > > On Sep 5, 2013, at 19:18 , kishore g wrote: > > > > > > > > > Will set up one next week. Any preference on time and day?. I guess > > the > > > > > timezone difference will make it difficult to get a time convenient > > for > > > > > every one. > > > > > > > > > > Kishore, 7AM-10AM PST works best for me. > > > > > > > > > > thanks > > > > > Kishore G > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Oleg Tikhonov > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> Good idea, indeed. +1. > > > > >> > > > > >> BTW, blogging about S4 may increase visibility, attract new users > > etc. > > > > >> > > > > >> Cheers, > > > > >> Oleg > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 7:53 PM, kishore g > > > wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >>> Hi, > > > > >>> > > > > >>> As we have more folks interested in contributing to S4, will it > be > > a > > > > good > > > > >>> idea to setup a hangout. We can know each other and probably > > discuss > > > > >>> roadmap and get ideas from every one as to things that need to be > > > > >>> fixed/improved. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> What do you think ? > > > > >>> > > > > >>> thanks, > > > > >>> Kishore G > > > > >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: Hangout
I'll try to make it as well, but I'm not sure whether I'll be able or not. Thanks for taking the time to set it up Kishore! Regards, Daniel On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 7:13 PM, Renato Marroquín Mogrovejo < [email protected]> wrote: > Friday would work better for me ): but whatever people decide, I will try > to make it (= > > > Renato M. > > > 2013/9/8 kishore g > > > ok, wednesday 7AM-8AM it is. I am down with sore throat but hope to > recover > > by wednesday. > > > > > > > > On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 6:48 AM, Matthieu Morel > wrote: > > > > > This timeframe is fine for me as well. Better between wednesday and > > friday > > > included. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Matthieu > > > > > > On Sep 5, 2013, at 19:18 , kishore g wrote: > > > > > > > Will set up one next week. Any preference on time and day?. I guess > the > > > > timezone difference will make it difficult to get a time convenient > for > > > > every one. > > > > > > > > Kishore, 7AM-10AM PST works best for me. > > > > > > > > thanks > > > > Kishore G > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Oleg Tikhonov > > wrote: > > > > > > > >> Good idea, indeed. +1. > > > >> > > > >> BTW, blogging about S4 may increase visibility, attract new users > etc. > > > >> > > > >> Cheers, > > > >> Oleg > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 7:53 PM, kishore g > > wrote: > > > >> > > > >>> Hi, > > > >>> > > > >>> As we have more folks interested in contributing to S4, will it be > a > > > good > > > >>> idea to setup a hangout. We can know each other and probably > discuss > > > >>> roadmap and get ideas from every one as to things that need to be > > > >>> fixed/improved. > > > >>> > > > >>> What do you think ? > > > >>> > > > >>> thanks, > > > >>> Kishore G > > > >>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >
Re: Hangout
Friday would work better for me ): but whatever people decide, I will try to make it (= Renato M. 2013/9/8 kishore g > ok, wednesday 7AM-8AM it is. I am down with sore throat but hope to recover > by wednesday. > > > > On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 6:48 AM, Matthieu Morel wrote: > > > This timeframe is fine for me as well. Better between wednesday and > friday > > included. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Matthieu > > > > On Sep 5, 2013, at 19:18 , kishore g wrote: > > > > > Will set up one next week. Any preference on time and day?. I guess the > > > timezone difference will make it difficult to get a time convenient for > > > every one. > > > > > > Kishore, 7AM-10AM PST works best for me. > > > > > > thanks > > > Kishore G > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Oleg Tikhonov > wrote: > > > > > >> Good idea, indeed. +1. > > >> > > >> BTW, blogging about S4 may increase visibility, attract new users etc. > > >> > > >> Cheers, > > >> Oleg > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 7:53 PM, kishore g > wrote: > > >> > > >>> Hi, > > >>> > > >>> As we have more folks interested in contributing to S4, will it be a > > good > > >>> idea to setup a hangout. We can know each other and probably discuss > > >>> roadmap and get ideas from every one as to things that need to be > > >>> fixed/improved. > > >>> > > >>> What do you think ? > > >>> > > >>> thanks, > > >>> Kishore G > > >>> > > >> > > > > >
Re: Hangout
ok, wednesday 7AM-8AM it is. I am down with sore throat but hope to recover by wednesday. On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 6:48 AM, Matthieu Morel wrote: > This timeframe is fine for me as well. Better between wednesday and friday > included. > > Thanks, > > Matthieu > > On Sep 5, 2013, at 19:18 , kishore g wrote: > > > Will set up one next week. Any preference on time and day?. I guess the > > timezone difference will make it difficult to get a time convenient for > > every one. > > > > Kishore, 7AM-10AM PST works best for me. > > > > thanks > > Kishore G > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Oleg Tikhonov wrote: > > > >> Good idea, indeed. +1. > >> > >> BTW, blogging about S4 may increase visibility, attract new users etc. > >> > >> Cheers, > >> Oleg > >> > >> > >> > >> On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 7:53 PM, kishore g wrote: > >> > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> As we have more folks interested in contributing to S4, will it be a > good > >>> idea to setup a hangout. We can know each other and probably discuss > >>> roadmap and get ideas from every one as to things that need to be > >>> fixed/improved. > >>> > >>> What do you think ? > >>> > >>> thanks, > >>> Kishore G > >>> > >> > >
Re: Hangout
This timeframe is fine for me as well. Better between wednesday and friday included. Thanks, Matthieu On Sep 5, 2013, at 19:18 , kishore g wrote: > Will set up one next week. Any preference on time and day?. I guess the > timezone difference will make it difficult to get a time convenient for > every one. > > Kishore, 7AM-10AM PST works best for me. > > thanks > Kishore G > > > On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Oleg Tikhonov wrote: > >> Good idea, indeed. +1. >> >> BTW, blogging about S4 may increase visibility, attract new users etc. >> >> Cheers, >> Oleg >> >> >> >> On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 7:53 PM, kishore g wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> As we have more folks interested in contributing to S4, will it be a good >>> idea to setup a hangout. We can know each other and probably discuss >>> roadmap and get ideas from every one as to things that need to be >>> fixed/improved. >>> >>> What do you think ? >>> >>> thanks, >>> Kishore G >>> >>
Re: Hangout
so what's the time ? 2013/9/8 Kurtt Lin > G > ood idea. > > > 7AM-10AM PST is fine for me, although its 11PM-2AM in my time zone( > UTC+8 > ) > . > > But, @Flavio, we've personally met in HIC(Hadoop in China) 2011 and we > discussed about S4. If that does not ring a bell, I will send you a photo > of the two of us. :) > > > > On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 1:18 AM, kishore g wrote: > > > Will set up one next week. Any preference on time and day?. I guess the > > timezone difference will make it difficult to get a time convenient for > > every one. > > > > Kishore, 7AM-10AM PST works best for me. > > > > thanks > > Kishore G > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Oleg Tikhonov wrote: > > > > > Good idea, indeed. +1. > > > > > > BTW, blogging about S4 may increase visibility, attract new users etc. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Oleg > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 7:53 PM, kishore g wrote: > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > As we have more folks interested in contributing to S4, will it be a > > good > > > > idea to setup a hangout. We can know each other and probably discuss > > > > roadmap and get ideas from every one as to things that need to be > > > > fixed/improved. > > > > > > > > What do you think ? > > > > > > > > thanks, > > > > Kishore G > > > > > > > > > >
Re: Hangout
G ood idea. 7AM-10AM PST is fine for me, although its 11PM-2AM in my time zone( UTC+8 ) . But, @Flavio, we've personally met in HIC(Hadoop in China) 2011 and we discussed about S4. If that does not ring a bell, I will send you a photo of the two of us. :) On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 1:18 AM, kishore g wrote: > Will set up one next week. Any preference on time and day?. I guess the > timezone difference will make it difficult to get a time convenient for > every one. > > Kishore, 7AM-10AM PST works best for me. > > thanks > Kishore G > > > On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Oleg Tikhonov wrote: > > > Good idea, indeed. +1. > > > > BTW, blogging about S4 may increase visibility, attract new users etc. > > > > Cheers, > > Oleg > > > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 7:53 PM, kishore g wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > As we have more folks interested in contributing to S4, will it be a > good > > > idea to setup a hangout. We can know each other and probably discuss > > > roadmap and get ideas from every one as to things that need to be > > > fixed/improved. > > > > > > What do you think ? > > > > > > thanks, > > > Kishore G > > > > > >
Re: Hangout
Will set up one next week. Any preference on time and day?. I guess the timezone difference will make it difficult to get a time convenient for every one. Kishore, 7AM-10AM PST works best for me. thanks Kishore G On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Oleg Tikhonov wrote: > Good idea, indeed. +1. > > BTW, blogging about S4 may increase visibility, attract new users etc. > > Cheers, > Oleg > > > > On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 7:53 PM, kishore g wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > As we have more folks interested in contributing to S4, will it be a good > > idea to setup a hangout. We can know each other and probably discuss > > roadmap and get ideas from every one as to things that need to be > > fixed/improved. > > > > What do you think ? > > > > thanks, > > Kishore G > > >
Re: Hangout
Good idea, indeed. +1. BTW, blogging about S4 may increase visibility, attract new users etc. Cheers, Oleg On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 7:53 PM, kishore g wrote: > Hi, > > As we have more folks interested in contributing to S4, will it be a good > idea to setup a hangout. We can know each other and probably discuss > roadmap and get ideas from every one as to things that need to be > fixed/improved. > > What do you think ? > > thanks, > Kishore G >
RE: Hangout
+1 -Original Message- From: "kishore g" Sent: 04/09/2013 18:00 To: "[email protected]" Subject: Hangout Hi, As we have more folks interested in contributing to S4, will it be a good idea to setup a hangout. We can know each other and probably discuss roadmap and get ideas from every one as to things that need to be fixed/improved. What do you think ? thanks, Kishore G
Re: Hangout
Good idea, I'm not able to contribute much code at the moment but I'll be happy to explain some internals of the project and help get things going. Matthieu On Sep 4, 2013, at 18:53 , kishore g wrote: > Hi, > > As we have more folks interested in contributing to S4, will it be a good > idea to setup a hangout. We can know each other and probably discuss > roadmap and get ideas from every one as to things that need to be > fixed/improved. > > What do you think ? > > thanks, > Kishore G
Re: Hangout
On Wed, Sep 4, 2013, at 11:53 AM, kishore g wrote: > As we have more folks interested in contributing to S4, will it be a good > idea to setup a hangout. We can know each other and probably discuss > roadmap and get ideas from every one as to things that need to be > fixed/improved. > > What do you think ? This is a great idea to help contributors (or potential contributors) discuss issues in real-time. One thing that's worth mentioning, though: any project decisions should be discussed on the mailing list, as real-time conversations can exclude folks who can't make them. Or, as folks are fond of saying "if it didn't happen on the mailing list, it didn't happen." Best, jzb -- Joe Brockmeier [email protected] Twitter: @jzb http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
Re: Hangout Tue @ 8:00 am US Pacific Time
Hangout starting in 10 minutes: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/e59574460b6700bf425357b457ab481d31a60917 -leo On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 3:34 PM, Leo Neumeyer wrote: > Reminder: we meet tomorrow (Tuesday @ 8:00 am US Pacific Time). I will > start a Google Hangout named "S4" before the meeting and send out the > URL to the list. > > Main topic, review the new deployment and app building processes. > > Everyone welcome. > > -- > > Leo Neumeyer (@leoneu) -- Leo Neumeyer (@leoneu)
Re: hangout notes
Not sure it would make much difference. In the current design we can have
several apps running in the same cluster. One strange thing is that to run
several apps on a single server, you would still create a subcluster for
each. I suppose that as long as the user doesn't see it, it doesn't really
matter.
-leo
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Karthik Kambatla wrote:
> I didn't realize I was proposing something new, that was just my
> understanding of your idea :)
>
> If there is no downside to have one subcluster per app, having app-specific
> subclusters would really help with the routing.
>
> Thanks
> Karthik
>
> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 6:40 PM, Leo Neumeyer
> wrote:
>
> > I'm OK with finding a better nomenclature but you seem to be suggesting a
> > different, and perhaps better, idea.
> >
> > In my original thinking nodes I use the following logical statements:
> >
> > - A cluster has M subclusters
> > - A subcluster id=i has Ni nodes
> > - There are a total of sum{i=0..M-1}(Ni) nodes
> > - A node is part of one and only one subcluster
> > - An app instance is activated in one and only one subcluster
> > - A subcluster can have several app instances (there is no one-to-one
> > relationship between subcluster and apps)
> >
> > Base on Karthik comments, it sounds like he is proposing to create a
> > subcluster for each app instance, that is the subcluster only exists for
> a
> > specific app instance. I hadn't thought about that but it might not be a
> > bad idea.
> >
> > In that case a cluster is a collection of subclusters where each
> subcluster
> > is created and destroyed when an app is created and destroyed. I kind of
> > like this, is there a downside? For example, to run a query to analyze RT
> > data, we may want to deploy an App. Would the overhead of creating a
> > subcluster every time be a problem compared to deploying to an existing
> > logical subcluster?
> >
> > Thoughts??
> >
> > -leo
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Karthik Kambatla <
> [email protected]
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > Indeed the demo was significant progress, now we can actually start
> > > thinking of releasing the piper.
> > >
> > > The notion of "Cluster" and "Sub-cluster" makes absolute sense, but the
> > > nomenclature is confusing. Can we name them differently - for instance,
> > S4
> > > (physical) Cluster and S4 App-Cluster, or something completely
> different?
> > > Each sub-cluster (app-cluster) can be identified by the App ID. We can
> > use
> > > AppID for routing to a sub-cluster (app-cluster).
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Karthik
> > >
> > > On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 1:18 PM, Leo Neumeyer
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Matthieu,
> > > >
> > > > Congrats again for the great demo using S4 across subclusters and the
> > > > PlayFramework-like command line tool to manage the cluster and deploy
> > > apps.
> > > > We are basically providing a full stack solution so users don't have
> to
> > > > spend time getting systems to work together.
> > > >
> > > > Here is a summary of today's comments. Please let me know if you
> agree
> > or
> > > > if you propose a different approach. Let's make sure we are all in
> > sync.
> > > >
> > > > * We need to be able to extract routing info from messages and
> > > > deserialize the Event at a higher level where we know the Event
> Class.
> > > >
> > > > * Definition of "S4 Cluster": a collection of S4 sub-clusters.
> > > >
> > > > * Definition of "S4 Sub-cluster": A collection of nodes (each
> > > sub-cluster
> > > > has its own partitions).
> > > >
> > > > * All nodes in an "S4 Cluster" are symmetric (same code image in ALL
> > > > nodes across sub-clusters.)
> > > >
> > > > * For total isolation, send event stream to another "S4 Cluster".
> > > >
> > > > * A specific app is deployed to ALL nodes in the "S4 Cluster" but
> > > > activated on a specific "S4 Sub-cluster". This provides flexibility
> to
> > > > assign resources to groups of Apps while maintaining simplicity via
> > local
> > > > method calls. (Remote invokation is also handled by the platform in
> the
> > > > same way and transparently.)
> > > >
> > > > * Each Node has a local collection of Sender instances, one for for
> > each
> > > > sub-cluster in the cluster.
> > > >
> > > > * When sending an Event to an App, we use runtime tables to lookup
> the
> > > > sub-cluster and the corresponding Sender. Once we know the Sender, we
> > > > simply use it to send the Event using local method calls. All the
> > > > complexity is abstracted out.
> > > >
> > > > * Use EventSource to avoid application dependencies. Apps subscribe
> to
> > > > data sources. The event source is looked up when an App is loaded
> using
> > > > runtime tables.
> > > >
> > > > There are additional comments in the Jira.
> > > >
> > > > If you are reading this and would like to contribute to the project,
> > > please
> > > > email us! Let us know if you would like to join our weekly Google
> > hangout
> > > > where we discuss the project.
>
Re: hangout notes
I didn't realize I was proposing something new, that was just my
understanding of your idea :)
If there is no downside to have one subcluster per app, having app-specific
subclusters would really help with the routing.
Thanks
Karthik
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 6:40 PM, Leo Neumeyer wrote:
> I'm OK with finding a better nomenclature but you seem to be suggesting a
> different, and perhaps better, idea.
>
> In my original thinking nodes I use the following logical statements:
>
> - A cluster has M subclusters
> - A subcluster id=i has Ni nodes
> - There are a total of sum{i=0..M-1}(Ni) nodes
> - A node is part of one and only one subcluster
> - An app instance is activated in one and only one subcluster
> - A subcluster can have several app instances (there is no one-to-one
> relationship between subcluster and apps)
>
> Base on Karthik comments, it sounds like he is proposing to create a
> subcluster for each app instance, that is the subcluster only exists for a
> specific app instance. I hadn't thought about that but it might not be a
> bad idea.
>
> In that case a cluster is a collection of subclusters where each subcluster
> is created and destroyed when an app is created and destroyed. I kind of
> like this, is there a downside? For example, to run a query to analyze RT
> data, we may want to deploy an App. Would the overhead of creating a
> subcluster every time be a problem compared to deploying to an existing
> logical subcluster?
>
> Thoughts??
>
> -leo
>
> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Karthik Kambatla >wrote:
>
> > Indeed the demo was significant progress, now we can actually start
> > thinking of releasing the piper.
> >
> > The notion of "Cluster" and "Sub-cluster" makes absolute sense, but the
> > nomenclature is confusing. Can we name them differently - for instance,
> S4
> > (physical) Cluster and S4 App-Cluster, or something completely different?
> > Each sub-cluster (app-cluster) can be identified by the App ID. We can
> use
> > AppID for routing to a sub-cluster (app-cluster).
> >
> > Thanks
> > Karthik
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 1:18 PM, Leo Neumeyer
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Matthieu,
> > >
> > > Congrats again for the great demo using S4 across subclusters and the
> > > PlayFramework-like command line tool to manage the cluster and deploy
> > apps.
> > > We are basically providing a full stack solution so users don't have to
> > > spend time getting systems to work together.
> > >
> > > Here is a summary of today's comments. Please let me know if you agree
> or
> > > if you propose a different approach. Let's make sure we are all in
> sync.
> > >
> > > * We need to be able to extract routing info from messages and
> > > deserialize the Event at a higher level where we know the Event Class.
> > >
> > > * Definition of "S4 Cluster": a collection of S4 sub-clusters.
> > >
> > > * Definition of "S4 Sub-cluster": A collection of nodes (each
> > sub-cluster
> > > has its own partitions).
> > >
> > > * All nodes in an "S4 Cluster" are symmetric (same code image in ALL
> > > nodes across sub-clusters.)
> > >
> > > * For total isolation, send event stream to another "S4 Cluster".
> > >
> > > * A specific app is deployed to ALL nodes in the "S4 Cluster" but
> > > activated on a specific "S4 Sub-cluster". This provides flexibility to
> > > assign resources to groups of Apps while maintaining simplicity via
> local
> > > method calls. (Remote invokation is also handled by the platform in the
> > > same way and transparently.)
> > >
> > > * Each Node has a local collection of Sender instances, one for for
> each
> > > sub-cluster in the cluster.
> > >
> > > * When sending an Event to an App, we use runtime tables to lookup the
> > > sub-cluster and the corresponding Sender. Once we know the Sender, we
> > > simply use it to send the Event using local method calls. All the
> > > complexity is abstracted out.
> > >
> > > * Use EventSource to avoid application dependencies. Apps subscribe to
> > > data sources. The event source is looked up when an App is loaded using
> > > runtime tables.
> > >
> > > There are additional comments in the Jira.
> > >
> > > If you are reading this and would like to contribute to the project,
> > please
> > > email us! Let us know if you would like to join our weekly Google
> hangout
> > > where we discuss the project.
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Leo Neumeyer (@leoneu)
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
>
> Leo Neumeyer (@leoneu)
>
Re: hangout notes
I'm OK with finding a better nomenclature but you seem to be suggesting a
different, and perhaps better, idea.
In my original thinking nodes I use the following logical statements:
- A cluster has M subclusters
- A subcluster id=i has Ni nodes
- There are a total of sum{i=0..M-1}(Ni) nodes
- A node is part of one and only one subcluster
- An app instance is activated in one and only one subcluster
- A subcluster can have several app instances (there is no one-to-one
relationship between subcluster and apps)
Base on Karthik comments, it sounds like he is proposing to create a
subcluster for each app instance, that is the subcluster only exists for a
specific app instance. I hadn't thought about that but it might not be a
bad idea.
In that case a cluster is a collection of subclusters where each subcluster
is created and destroyed when an app is created and destroyed. I kind of
like this, is there a downside? For example, to run a query to analyze RT
data, we may want to deploy an App. Would the overhead of creating a
subcluster every time be a problem compared to deploying to an existing
logical subcluster?
Thoughts??
-leo
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Karthik Kambatla wrote:
> Indeed the demo was significant progress, now we can actually start
> thinking of releasing the piper.
>
> The notion of "Cluster" and "Sub-cluster" makes absolute sense, but the
> nomenclature is confusing. Can we name them differently - for instance, S4
> (physical) Cluster and S4 App-Cluster, or something completely different?
> Each sub-cluster (app-cluster) can be identified by the App ID. We can use
> AppID for routing to a sub-cluster (app-cluster).
>
> Thanks
> Karthik
>
> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 1:18 PM, Leo Neumeyer
> wrote:
>
> > Matthieu,
> >
> > Congrats again for the great demo using S4 across subclusters and the
> > PlayFramework-like command line tool to manage the cluster and deploy
> apps.
> > We are basically providing a full stack solution so users don't have to
> > spend time getting systems to work together.
> >
> > Here is a summary of today's comments. Please let me know if you agree or
> > if you propose a different approach. Let's make sure we are all in sync.
> >
> > * We need to be able to extract routing info from messages and
> > deserialize the Event at a higher level where we know the Event Class.
> >
> > * Definition of "S4 Cluster": a collection of S4 sub-clusters.
> >
> > * Definition of "S4 Sub-cluster": A collection of nodes (each
> sub-cluster
> > has its own partitions).
> >
> > * All nodes in an "S4 Cluster" are symmetric (same code image in ALL
> > nodes across sub-clusters.)
> >
> > * For total isolation, send event stream to another "S4 Cluster".
> >
> > * A specific app is deployed to ALL nodes in the "S4 Cluster" but
> > activated on a specific "S4 Sub-cluster". This provides flexibility to
> > assign resources to groups of Apps while maintaining simplicity via local
> > method calls. (Remote invokation is also handled by the platform in the
> > same way and transparently.)
> >
> > * Each Node has a local collection of Sender instances, one for for each
> > sub-cluster in the cluster.
> >
> > * When sending an Event to an App, we use runtime tables to lookup the
> > sub-cluster and the corresponding Sender. Once we know the Sender, we
> > simply use it to send the Event using local method calls. All the
> > complexity is abstracted out.
> >
> > * Use EventSource to avoid application dependencies. Apps subscribe to
> > data sources. The event source is looked up when an App is loaded using
> > runtime tables.
> >
> > There are additional comments in the Jira.
> >
> > If you are reading this and would like to contribute to the project,
> please
> > email us! Let us know if you would like to join our weekly Google hangout
> > where we discuss the project.
> >
> > --
> >
> > Leo Neumeyer (@leoneu)
> >
>
--
Leo Neumeyer (@leoneu)
Re: hangout notes
Indeed the demo was significant progress, now we can actually start thinking of releasing the piper. The notion of "Cluster" and "Sub-cluster" makes absolute sense, but the nomenclature is confusing. Can we name them differently - for instance, S4 (physical) Cluster and S4 App-Cluster, or something completely different? Each sub-cluster (app-cluster) can be identified by the App ID. We can use AppID for routing to a sub-cluster (app-cluster). Thanks Karthik On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 1:18 PM, Leo Neumeyer wrote: > Matthieu, > > Congrats again for the great demo using S4 across subclusters and the > PlayFramework-like command line tool to manage the cluster and deploy apps. > We are basically providing a full stack solution so users don't have to > spend time getting systems to work together. > > Here is a summary of today's comments. Please let me know if you agree or > if you propose a different approach. Let's make sure we are all in sync. > > * We need to be able to extract routing info from messages and > deserialize the Event at a higher level where we know the Event Class. > > * Definition of "S4 Cluster": a collection of S4 sub-clusters. > > * Definition of "S4 Sub-cluster": A collection of nodes (each sub-cluster > has its own partitions). > > * All nodes in an "S4 Cluster" are symmetric (same code image in ALL > nodes across sub-clusters.) > > * For total isolation, send event stream to another "S4 Cluster". > > * A specific app is deployed to ALL nodes in the "S4 Cluster" but > activated on a specific "S4 Sub-cluster". This provides flexibility to > assign resources to groups of Apps while maintaining simplicity via local > method calls. (Remote invokation is also handled by the platform in the > same way and transparently.) > > * Each Node has a local collection of Sender instances, one for for each > sub-cluster in the cluster. > > * When sending an Event to an App, we use runtime tables to lookup the > sub-cluster and the corresponding Sender. Once we know the Sender, we > simply use it to send the Event using local method calls. All the > complexity is abstracted out. > > * Use EventSource to avoid application dependencies. Apps subscribe to > data sources. The event source is looked up when an App is loaded using > runtime tables. > > There are additional comments in the Jira. > > If you are reading this and would like to contribute to the project, please > email us! Let us know if you would like to join our weekly Google hangout > where we discuss the project. > > -- > > Leo Neumeyer (@leoneu) >
