[sniffer] Re: Adding Message Sniffer to Zimbra

2015-02-10 Thread Daniel Bayerdorffer
Hi Linda (and the Sniffer community), 

I just wanted to let everyone know what I ended up doing to work with Zimbra. 

I copied the snf4sa.pm and snf4sa.cf files to the 

/opt/zimbra/data/spamassassin/localrules 

directory per this Zimbra wiki article 

https://wiki.zimbra.com/wiki/SpamAssassin_Customizations 

The spamassassin implementation in Zimbra blocks SNF Headers from being added 
to emails. So I took Pete's advice and turned on the  option in 
the /etc/snf-server/SNFServer.xml file 

http://www.armresearch.com/Documentation/QA/ltidentifiergt-2021367617.jsp 

Everything appears to be working great! 

Thanks, 
Daniel 





From: Daniel Bayerdorffer [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 10:08 AM 
To: Linda Pagillo; Message Sniffer Community 
Subject: Re: [sniffer] Re: Adding Message Sniffer to Zimbra 





Hi Linda, 





Thank you for the useful advice! I will be working on this next week, and I'll 
let you know how it turns out. I also found some useful information on Zimbra's 
Wiki. 





https://wiki.zimbra.com/wiki/SpamAssassin_Customizations 





I'm looking forward to the reduction in spam! 





Thanks, 


Daniel 






From: "Linda Pagillo" < [email protected] > 
To: "Daniel Bayerdorffer" < [email protected] > 
Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2015 5:40:34 PM 
Subject: [sniffer] Re: Adding Message Sniffer to Zimbra 





Hi Daniel. I was hanging out in the Message Sniffer Community forums and saw 
that you had a question about Message Sniffer and Zimbra. I have actually set 
up a Zimbra/Postfix/SpamAssassin server with the SNF4SA plug-in. When I set it 
up, I simply added the lines for the SNF4SA to SpamAssassin’s local.cf file and 
it has been working without issue since. However, we have not upgraded the 
Zimbra server, so I’m not sure if those settings would be overwritten if we 
did. To avoid that, you could create a file called something like aaalocal.cf 
and add the SNF4SA lines to that file. That would prevent the settings from 
being overwritten if a Zimbra upgrade did overwrite the local.cf. I hope this 
helps. Thanks! 



Linda Pagillo 
Mail's Best Friend 
Email: [email protected] 
Web: www.mailsbestfriend.com 
Office: 703.988.3605 x7016 












[sniffer] Re: Adding Message Sniffer to Zimbra

2015-02-10 Thread Daniel Bayerdorffer
Hi Pete,

I implemented the identifier option. Thanks for the advice. I've also finally 
seen an email where spamassassin is acknowledging some input from SNF.

X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=14.214 tagged_above=-10 required=6.6
tests=[BAYES_95=3, KB_DATE_CONTAINS_TAB=2.751,
RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.347, RCVD_IN_BRBL_LASTEXT=1.449,
RCVD_IN_XBL=0.375, RDNS_NONE=0.793, SNF4SA=4.000, TAB_IN_FROM=0.499]
autolearn=no autolearn_force=no

That is mostly what I'm looking for, but the identifier option will be helpful 
for debugging.

Thanks again for all your help!
Daniel


- Original Message -
From: "Pete McNeil" 
To: "Message Sniffer Community" 
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 9:20:31 AM
Subject: [sniffer] Re: Adding Message Sniffer to Zimbra

Unfortunately, some implementations of SA are hiding these headers.
We've seen this a few times recently. There doesn't seem to be a way
around it outside of hacking SA itself. (A few people have done that,...
but it was ugly).

If you want to be able to more easily associate SNF logs with messages
you might consider changing SNF's message identifier to use the Message ID.

http://www.armresearch.com/Documentation/QA/ltidentifiergt-2021367617.jsp



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[sniffer] Re: Adding Message Sniffer to Zimbra

2015-02-10 Thread Pete McNeil
On 2015-02-10 01:20, Daniel Bayerdorffer wrote:
> But there are no headers in the messages showing snf's results. I can see 
> that the snf4sa.cf has it set to add them though.
>
> # Header line containing the results from SNFServer.
> add_header all SNF-Result  _SNFRESULTTAG_
> add_header all MessageSniffer-Scan-Result _SNFMESSAGESNIFFERSCANRESULT_
> add_header all MessageSniffer-Rules _SNFMESSAGESNIFFERRULES_
> add_header all GBUdb-Analysis _SNFGBUDBANALYSIS_
>
> Do you have any more suggestions?

Unfortunately, some implementations of SA are hiding these headers.
We've seen this a few times recently. There doesn't seem to be a way
around it outside of hacking SA itself. (A few people have done that,...
but it was ugly).

If you want to be able to more easily associate SNF logs with messages
you might consider changing SNF's message identifier to use the Message ID.

http://www.armresearch.com/Documentation/QA/ltidentifiergt-2021367617.jsp

_M

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[sniffer] Re: Adding Message Sniffer to Zimbra

2015-02-09 Thread Daniel Bayerdorffer
Hi Pete,

Thanks for the help, that worked perfectly. I have snf running and the snf4sa 
installed as well. I can see that snf is scanning messages from it's 
license.20150210.log.xml file





But there are no headers in the messages showing snf's results. I can see that 
the snf4sa.cf has it set to add them though.

# Header line containing the results from SNFServer.
add_header all SNF-Result  _SNFRESULTTAG_
add_header all MessageSniffer-Scan-Result _SNFMESSAGESNIFFERSCANRESULT_
add_header all MessageSniffer-Rules _SNFMESSAGESNIFFERRULES_
add_header all GBUdb-Analysis _SNFGBUDBANALYSIS_

Do you have any more suggestions?

Thanks again for the help,
Daniel


- Original Message -
From: "Pete McNeil" 
To: "Message Sniffer Community" 
Sent: Monday, February 9, 2015 6:12:45 PM
Subject: [sniffer] Re: Adding Message Sniffer to Zimbra

On 2015-02-09 16:23, Daniel Bayerdorffer wrote:
> libpthread package they have listed for 14.04. But the config script still 
> can't find that library. Can you offer any advice?

apt-get install build-essential

seems to be the equivalent of CentOS

yum groupinstall "Development Tools"

which usually solves this problem for redhat variants.

Give that a shot and see if it fills in the holes.
Usually by the time I've got g++ up and running on ubuntu it "just
works" -- hopefully that's not broken in 14.

Best,

_M

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Chief Scientist
ARM Research Labs, LLC
www.armresearch.com
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[sniffer] Re: Adding Message Sniffer to Zimbra

2015-02-09 Thread Pete McNeil
On 2015-02-09 16:23, Daniel Bayerdorffer wrote:
> libpthread package they have listed for 14.04. But the config script still 
> can't find that library. Can you offer any advice?

apt-get install build-essential

seems to be the equivalent of CentOS

yum groupinstall "Development Tools"

which usually solves this problem for redhat variants.

Give that a shot and see if it fills in the holes.
Usually by the time I've got g++ up and running on ubuntu it "just
works" -- hopefully that's not broken in 14.

Best,

_M

-- 
Pete McNeil
Chief Scientist
ARM Research Labs, LLC
www.armresearch.com
866-770-1044 x7010
twitter/codedweller 


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[sniffer] Re: Adding Message Sniffer to Zimbra

2015-02-09 Thread Daniel Bayerdorffer
Hello Pete,

I've run into a snag on installing Message Sniffer.

We are installing on Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS Server. I'm running the config script 
and it says I don't have the libpthread library installed. I've done a search 
on Ubuntu's package website, and I've installed every libpthread package they 
have listed for 14.04. But the config script still can't find that library. Can 
you offer any advice?

http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=default§ion=all&arch=any&keywords=libpthread&searchon=names

Thanks,
Daniel



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[sniffer] Re: Adding Message Sniffer to Zimbra

2015-02-04 Thread Daniel Bayerdorffer
Hi Linda, 

Thank you for the useful advice! I will be working on this next week, and I'll 
let you know how it turns out. I also found some useful information on Zimbra's 
Wiki. 

https://wiki.zimbra.com/wiki/SpamAssassin_Customizations 

I'm looking forward to the reduction in spam! 

Thanks, 
Daniel 


From: "Linda Pagillo"  
To: "Daniel Bayerdorffer"  
Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2015 5:40:34 PM 
Subject: [sniffer] Re: Adding Message Sniffer to Zimbra 



Hi Daniel. I was hanging out in the Message Sniffer Community forums and saw 
that you had a question about Message Sniffer and Zimbra. I have actually set 
up a Zimbra/Postfix/SpamAssassin server with the SNF4SA plug-in. When I set it 
up, I simply added the lines for the SNF4SA to SpamAssassin’s local.cf file and 
it has been working without issue since. However, we have not upgraded the 
Zimbra server, so I’m not sure if those settings would be overwritten if we 
did. To avoid that, you could create a file called something like aaalocal.cf 
and add the SNF4SA lines to that file. That would prevent the settings from 
being overwritten if a Zimbra upgrade did overwrite the local.cf. I hope this 
helps. Thanks! 



Linda Pagillo 
Mail's Best Friend 
Email: [email protected] 
Web: www.mailsbestfriend.com 
Office: 703.988.3605 x7016 









[sniffer] Re: Adding Message Sniffer to Zimbra

2015-02-03 Thread Daniel Bayerdorffer
Hi Pete,

That is my expectation too. I just wasn't sure if Zimbra might try to overwrite 
any spam assassin conf files and such. Zimbra maintains all it's settings in 
ldap attributes, so it can maintain consistency across servers. So I was 
curious if anyone had already run into that issue.

I'll do some more digging in the Zimbra documentation to verify it won't 
overwrite anything.

Thanks,
Daniel

- Original Message -
From: "Pete McNeil" 
To: "Message Sniffer Community" 
Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2015 1:38:56 PM
Subject: [sniffer] Re: Adding Message Sniffer to Zimbra

On 2015-02-02 19:53, Daniel Bayerdorffer wrote:
> Does anyone have any advice or tips for adding Message Sniffer to
> Zimbra 8.6? Specifically with Zimbra's implementation of spam assassin?

The SNF4SA plugin included with the Linux source code distribution
should do the trick. SNF4SA looks to SpamAssassin like any other SA
plugin. It creates a temp file of the message, calls SNFServer to scan
the message, and then processes the results in a way SA expects so it
can be scored.

It _should_ be as easy as that.

_M

-- 
Pete McNeil
Chief Scientist
ARM Research Labs, LLC
www.armresearch.com
866-770-1044 x7010
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[sniffer] Re: Adding Message Sniffer to Zimbra

2015-02-03 Thread Pete McNeil
On 2015-02-02 19:53, Daniel Bayerdorffer wrote:
> Does anyone have any advice or tips for adding Message Sniffer to
> Zimbra 8.6? Specifically with Zimbra's implementation of spam assassin?

The SNF4SA plugin included with the Linux source code distribution
should do the trick. SNF4SA looks to SpamAssassin like any other SA
plugin. It creates a temp file of the message, calls SNFServer to scan
the message, and then processes the results in a way SA expects so it
can be scored.

It _should_ be as easy as that.

_M

-- 
Pete McNeil
Chief Scientist
ARM Research Labs, LLC
www.armresearch.com
866-770-1044 x7010
twitter/codedweller 


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