Re: [SoaS] Policy for activities for downstream inclusion

2010-09-14 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 15.09.2010, at 00:07, [email protected] wrote:

> On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 10:51 PM, Bert Freudenberg  
> wrote:
> 
>> And (from your other msg) why do you want both zip (xo) and tar balls?
> 
> I just want sure source code only tarfiles. I presume for a.sl.o
> there's a need for ready to run .xo files which may or may not contain
> pre compiled binaries.

Thanks, that's clearer :)

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Re: [SoaS] Policy for activities for downstream inclusion

2010-09-14 Thread [email protected]
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 10:51 PM, Bert Freudenberg  wrote:
> On 14.09.2010, at 23:15, [email protected] wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 3:09 PM, Walter Bender  
>> wrote:
>>> On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 10:05 AM, David Farning  wrote:

 In the .deb side of the universe, we prefer tarballs but we can work
 directly from the git repository.
>>>
>>> Is it not still the practice to put tarballs on download.sl.o ???
>>
>> No its not! Sebastian and I got sick of sounding like broken down
>> records so I have no idea of the current status.
>
> Not sure I can parse what you mean. Are you saying it is not current practice 
> but it should be?

It seems it generally doesn't happen. No idea if its policy or not.

> And (from your other msg) why do you want both zip (xo) and tar balls?

I just want sure source code only tarfiles. I presume for a.sl.o
there's a need for ready to run .xo files which may or may not contain
pre compiled binaries.

Peter
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Re: [SoaS] Policy for activities for downstream inclusion

2010-09-14 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 14.09.2010, at 23:15, [email protected] wrote:

> On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 3:09 PM, Walter Bender  
> wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 10:05 AM, David Farning  wrote:
>>> 
>>> In the .deb side of the universe, we prefer tarballs but we can work
>>> directly from the git repository.
>> 
>> Is it not still the practice to put tarballs on download.sl.o ???
> 
> No its not! Sebastian and I got sick of sounding like broken down
> records so I have no idea of the current status.

Not sure I can parse what you mean. Are you saying it is not current practice 
but it should be?

And (from your other msg) why do you want both zip (xo) and tar balls?

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Re: [SoaS] Policy for activities for downstream inclusion

2010-09-14 Thread [email protected]
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 11:27 AM, Simon Schampijer  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> what is the current status for activity releases in order to include
> them in distributions like Soas*? Do you guys need tarballs or did you
> switch over to construct the rpms from the .xo? For example the latest
> Paint rpm uses the .xo AFAIK (build even the binaries from the
> non-python sources in the bundle).

In some cases we've used .xo files but its not ideal and its caused us
packaging issues in Fedora as in a lot of cases the .xo files include
binary blobs which is against Fedora packaging policies so we have to
jump through extra hoops and its generally a pain we'd like to avoid!
Personally I'm moving to the point where if there's not a tarball I
won't spend my time packaging it.

> And is the email from ASLO enough for packagers to know about new
> releases? Any other notification that packagers need?

That is generally enough but a direct link to both the .xo and tarball
makes it quicker for me to update packages as I can grab it from the
email.

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Re: [SoaS] Policy for activities for downstream inclusion

2010-09-14 Thread [email protected]
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 3:09 PM, Walter Bender  wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 10:05 AM, David Farning  wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 5:27 AM, Simon Schampijer  
>> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> what is the current status for activity releases in order to include
>>> them in distributions like Soas*? Do you guys need tarballs or did you
>>> switch over to construct the rpms from the .xo? For example the latest
>>> Paint rpm uses the .xo AFAIK (build even the binaries from the
>>> non-python sources in the bundle).
>>>
>>> And is the email from ASLO enough for packagers to know about new
>>> releases? Any other notification that packagers need?
>>
>> In the .deb side of the universe, we prefer tarballs but we can work
>> directly from the git repository.
>
> Is it not still the practice to put tarballs on download.sl.o ???

No its not! Sebastian and I got sick of sounding like broken down
records so I have no idea of the current status.

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Re: [SoaS] Policy for activities for downstream inclusion

2010-09-14 Thread Simon Schampijer
Thanks David and Walter for the feedback,

On 09/14/2010 04:09 PM, Walter Bender wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 10:05 AM, David Farning  wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 5:27 AM, Simon Schampijer  
>> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> what is the current status for activity releases in order to include
>>> them in distributions like Soas*? Do you guys need tarballs or did you
>>> switch over to construct the rpms from the .xo? For example the latest
>>> Paint rpm uses the .xo AFAIK (build even the binaries from the
>>> non-python sources in the bundle).
>>>
>>> And is the email from ASLO enough for packagers to know about new
>>> releases? Any other notification that packagers need?
>>
>> In the .deb side of the universe, we prefer tarballs but we can work
>> directly from the git repository.

We should not go from the git repository. Either use the .xo or a tarball.

> Is it not still the practice to put tarballs on download.sl.o ???
>
> -walter

Well, the latest mails I have seen about activity releases (besides 
Chat) does come from ASLO and only state the .xo. If there are tarballs 
at d.sl.o they have not been announced ;D

Regards,
Simon
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Re: [SoaS] Policy for activities for downstream inclusion

2010-09-14 Thread Walter Bender
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 10:05 AM, David Farning  wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 5:27 AM, Simon Schampijer  wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> what is the current status for activity releases in order to include
>> them in distributions like Soas*? Do you guys need tarballs or did you
>> switch over to construct the rpms from the .xo? For example the latest
>> Paint rpm uses the .xo AFAIK (build even the binaries from the
>> non-python sources in the bundle).
>>
>> And is the email from ASLO enough for packagers to know about new
>> releases? Any other notification that packagers need?
>
> In the .deb side of the universe, we prefer tarballs but we can work
> directly from the git repository.

Is it not still the practice to put tarballs on download.sl.o ???

-walter

>
> I have cced jonas for an official position.
>
> david
>
>> Regards,
>>    Simon
>>
>> * Of course any other downstreams that package/include activities are
>> happy to reply to this email too.
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Re: [SoaS] Policy for activities for downstream inclusion

2010-09-14 Thread David Farning
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 5:27 AM, Simon Schampijer  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> what is the current status for activity releases in order to include
> them in distributions like Soas*? Do you guys need tarballs or did you
> switch over to construct the rpms from the .xo? For example the latest
> Paint rpm uses the .xo AFAIK (build even the binaries from the
> non-python sources in the bundle).
>
> And is the email from ASLO enough for packagers to know about new
> releases? Any other notification that packagers need?

In the .deb side of the universe, we prefer tarballs but we can work
directly from the git repository.

I have cced jonas for an official position.

david

> Regards,
>    Simon
>
> * Of course any other downstreams that package/include activities are
> happy to reply to this email too.
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