[TruthTalk] Courtesy of Cousin Chuck

2004-04-27 Thread Dave
Banquet Blessing The banquet was about to begin when the master of ceremonies was informed that the clergyman, invited to give the blessing, was unable to attend. He asked the main speaker if he would oblige, and the man agreed... He began, "There being no clergyman present, let us thank

[TruthTalk] Courtesy of Ancient_Discoveries

2004-04-27 Thread Dave
http://www.space.com/astronotes/astronotes.html -- ~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~ If you wish to receive things I find interesting, I maintain Five email lists... JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, STUFF and MOTORCYCLE. -- Let your speech be

Re: [TruthTalk] Calvinism

2004-04-27 Thread ttxpress
On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 15:45:33 -0400 "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The gospel was declared to you [Bill], you heard the gospel, then you responded with faith, repentance, obedience, worship, confession, and love.. did Bill say this, or, that this occurred? even so,what

Re: [TruthTalk] Free will?

2004-04-27 Thread Wm. Taylor
From: ShieldsFamily But for you to tell me that he never got saved in the first place could be considered an arrogant assumption on your part, since you never knew him, or rejoiced at the inside-out change that amazed everyone with his utter transformation. If the subject of your ex-

Re: [TruthTalk] Free will?

2004-04-27 Thread Wm. Taylor
With David Miller you defend your right to have the freedom as a Christian to continue to sin. Yet on the other hand you say you do not have free will to sin so much as to reject and fall away from God. If you believe that the Holy Spirit empowers you to live an overcoming life, then why

Re: [TruthTalk] Free will?

2004-04-27 Thread Wm. Taylor
With David Miller you defend your right to have the freedom as a Christian to continue to sin. Yet on the other hand you say you do not have free will to sin so much as to reject and fall away from God. If you believe that the Holy Spirit empowers you to live an overcoming life, then why

Re: [TruthTalk] Calvinism

2004-04-27 Thread Wm. Taylor
Bill wrote When you insinuate that I have diminished faithor repentance, or the power of sin and death, orhuman depravity, David, you simply misunderstandme. These things are all real, profoundly real,in my thinking. I just do not draw logico-causalconnections between them. No one can

Re: [TruthTalk] Calvinism

2004-04-27 Thread Wm. Taylor
G, These wereDavid's words. You might want to ask him that question. I see this only as my responses to the salvation already appropriated in Christ. "In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation" (Eph 1.13). Bill - Original Message

RE: [TruthTalk] Free will?

2004-04-27 Thread ShieldsFamily
No, the subject is not off limits. Assuming that you know he could not have been saved and then rejected his walk with Christ is on your end. But I know you have to maintain your paradigm here. J Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wm. Taylor

Re: [TruthTalk] Elohim takes Mary as wife

2004-04-27 Thread Kevin Deegan
SinceI am on the road it is tough to get online.Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin Dave: I'd appreciate hearing from both of you re: the extended post on the "evangelical preaching of the gospel". Do you understand what's being said? Critique its content. What IF it were so? Lance

RE: [TruthTalk] Free will?

2004-04-27 Thread ShieldsFamily
By the way, you can read the book I wrote after his conversion here: http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?userid=2TMXX5AGKIisbn=088368358Xitm=9. Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ShieldsFamily Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004

Re: [TruthTalk] Free will?

2004-04-27 Thread Lance Muir
Izzy: I stock this book in our store. Lance - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: April 27, 2004 10:39 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Free will? By the way, you can read the book I wrote after his conversion here:

Re: [TruthTalk] Calvinism

2004-04-27 Thread Lance Muir
Bill: This post is a KEEPER! Lance - Original Message - From: Wm. Taylor To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: April 27, 2004 09:24 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Calvinism Bill wrote When you insinuate that I have diminished faithor repentance, or the power of sin and

RE: [TruthTalk] To flame or not to flame

2004-04-27 Thread Daniel Lee
David wrote: What I meant was that the MODERATOR did not have a history with you, so I was stepping in to help the moderator out a little bit. I am the list administrator. Daniel repsonded: Yet you did not take it upon yourself to rebuke Ruben and hit two birds with one stone. Probably

[TruthTalk] Female Teachers

2004-04-27 Thread David Miller
Daniel, when the moderator returns, I'm not sure what is going to happen. It seems that you feel compelled to speak purposefully corruptible words. Can you please try to discuss this subject in a Godly and humble fashion, abiding by the one rule that we have on TruthTalk? I really would like to

Re: [TruthTalk] Christian Perfection

2004-04-27 Thread Knpraise
DavidM - glad we got this misunderstanding straightened out. My computer has been down due to the "trojan-byte" virus. A very persistent bug. I have nearly 500 posts to work through I will not try to respond to most of them -- just want to see what I missed. I do intend on replying to your post

Re: [TruthTalk] To flame or not to flame

2004-04-27 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/21/2004 11:40:51 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And, David, I will start with you. Repent you hypocrite before you burn in the Lake of Fire for all eternity. In YahShua and by His Torah, Daniel John Lee www.TorahandSpirit.com Maybe having a computer

Re: [TruthTalk] Elohim takes Mary as wife

2004-04-27 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/22/2004 12:06:50 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: invitro fertilization I'm thinking that "Invitro" is the name of some Italian guy. John

Re: [TruthTalk] Free will?

2004-04-27 Thread Wm. Taylor
I think I am beginning to understand why the gal who does not want to debate doctrine has gotten so involved here. JThanks Izzy, I'll pick one up -- and read it, TOO. Bill - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 27,

Re: [TruthTalk] To flame or not to flame

2004-04-27 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/27/2004 8:26:09 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Daniel responds: Oh, give me a break. You're about as obfuscating as any politician. Teaching is teaching is teaching. If I put forth a concept concerning scriptural doctrinal matters -- it's teaching. Even

Re: [TruthTalk] Calvinism

2004-04-27 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/27/2004 8:05:23 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bill wrote When you insinuate that I have diminished faith or repentance, or the power of sin and death, or human depravity, David, you simply misunderstand me. These things are all real, profoundly real, in

RE: [TruthTalk] To flame or not to flame

2004-04-27 Thread Jonathan Hughes
Congrats on the new grandchild John. Good to see you back on the list again. I was wondering where you were. Jonathan From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 9:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re:

Re: [TruthTalk] Calvinism

2004-04-27 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/21/2004 11:36:46 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Note that the New Living translation is just that, a translation, not a paraphrase. Do not confuse this with the Living Bible which was a paraphrase. I have listed a bunch of translations below: Amen.