Charles Perry Locke wrote:
From: Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Slade (actually, Kay) Henson wrote:
So, you're saying...yes, you believe in
multiple gods,
DAVEH: Yesdoes not the Bible suggest
likewise? Look at PS 82:6..
A
In a message dated 1/10/2005 7:11:10 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Ah, I didn't know that he wasn't a part of mainstream Pentecostals. How many Pentecostal sects are there? As many as Baptists? Or what some would call Messianics? What's the difference between Pentecostals
In a message dated 1/10/2005 7:16:12 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
A mormon prooftext. Actually, some of the brethren at Corinth, perhaps, believed in more than one god but served only one - someone might try reading I Cor 8.
John -- Founder and Happy host to
In a message dated 1/10/2005 7:55:21 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What a Judgemental Pious Gasbag!
Would you attack Satan for his beliefs?
How about Bin Laden?
So who made you the authority for truth? ("I say they are decieved and lying")
The little fat guy is
In a message dated 1/10/2005 10:54:43 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
DAVEH: A.Golly John, I'm not sure what to say...To remain in character, I suppose I should RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE.. :-D
How do you spell "two shay ?"
JD
In a message dated 1/10/2005 10:55:15 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
That is God's job. Are you filling in?
1 Cor 4:5 Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come, who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the
In a message dated 1/10/2005 11:51:25 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
If all Mormons are Christians then all Christians are Mormons, right?
Are all Christians Baptists? Maybe not your best illustration.
Jd
In a message dated 1/10/2005 8:39:20 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
jt: Unscriptural John. How did he get born saved since everyone is born into a "fallen creation" (sin) in the first Adam. The scriptures teach that God saw us in Christ before the foundation of the world
I'll find it and send it to ya John. It was DM speaking
of himself.
Jeff
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From:
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To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005
2:44
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Prophetic Word
from David Miller
In a
Wrong Terry,
I have had the pleasure of dealing with Mormans for many, many years. Also a
few Jehovah's Witnesses! In fact my wifes sister in law has called me Satan
incarnate!
Now, I don't know Kevin, but his response just shows again why I do not care
for street preachers of any denomination
On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 04:49:40 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:So, the really important thing is not
the book of life but the Divine Eraser.
Interesting teaching.
jt: Not my "teaching"
John it is in the Book and the really important thing should be what God says
even if it does conflict with
OK OK
What do you think?
If I accept DAVEH as a Christian do you think he would accept me as a Mormon?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 1/10/2005 11:51:25 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
If all Mormons are Christians then all Christians are Mormons, right? Are all
I have been contemplating lately whether
I need to broaden my own definition of "Christian" -- you know with the Trinity
debate and all. I'm pretty sure of this much, DaveH: you're not alone
:)
Bill
- Original Message -
From:
Dave Hansen
To:
Now you're asking the right kind of questions! I
may return with some answers. We'll see how the day goes. It looks like I still
owe DaveH a response on the word echad. Hey, Slade. If you've got that
paper, please post it.
Bill
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From:
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So then what is your purpose in looking "to" the heart?
How is looking to the heart accomplished?
The scripture does not say you can look to the heart as long as you judge not.
It says men look on the outward God looks on the heart.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 1/10/2005 10:55:15
Cool story, John.
Bill
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From:
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Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 1:56
AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Why the Eternal
Sonship of Christ Matters to Me
In a message dated 1/10/2005 7:11:10 PM
Sorry,
Dave, but we don't celebrate Christmas. The next Holy day coming up is
Passoverwould you like to attend our family Seder?
Kay
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Dave
HansenSent: Tuesday, 11 January, 2005 02.34To:
To the contrary, Judy, I have no problem believing
that the names of those who do not reject the Christ will remain unblotted from
the Lambs Book of Life. How about if you let me and the triad articulate our own
beliefs. When you feel compelled to smear us with caricatures and
He was
at work and school for many a day, BillWinter Session. Today he comes home
from work at the normal time.
Kay
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Bill
TaylorSent: Tuesday, 11 January, 2005 08.19To:
It was
in answer to one of Slade's questions:
Slade wrote:
Are you willing to test the mettle of
your prophetic gift?
David's reply:
No, not really. I don't want to tempt God. I take the temptation
of Jesus
in the wilderness seriously. Satan challenged him on whether or
not he
really
Oh I remember those Intensives! I hope he knows he
if he's too overwhelmed he does not have to bother. DaveH and I can work through
this without him. I just thought it would be nice to read a well-thought-out
presentation of the word.
Bill
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From:
Slade
Did you know EBAY pulled the Jesus M$M when it was up around $3100.00?? It's
back...this time in a sealed container due to it being a food item. Last
night it was back up at $51.00 This morning the current bid is at $72.00.
Those
are pretty hard on everyone. The kids and I are stuck at home the whole time
with no car. He leaves by 6 AM for work and doesn't come home until after
schoolafter 11 PM. That's why I made him go away with us on the 30th. We
spent two nights at a condo, then came back the 1st
Why
would you want to be accepted as a Mormon?
Kay
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Kevin
DeeganSent: Tuesday, 11 January, 2005 08.11To:
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related
#2
OK OK
What
is said to the crowd? How is it said? I've met a few street preachers. Am
currently assisting a street preachers attorney. I am also friends with another
attorney who has represented several street preachers.
Kay
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Deegan [mailto:[EMAIL
Here are some audio links about Philly
http://www.theheartofthematteronline.com/archive.asp?archiveID=1174Update on Philadelphia Five: Justice Department Source Says U.S. Attorneys Complicit in Arrest of Christians
There are a couple of Real audio clips on this sitehttp://www.cwfa.org/radio.asp
DAVEH: I'm not sure why I'm defending Kevin on this, Johnbut he
was trying to denigrate Mormonism by taking LDS comments out of
context. So the logic of what he said makes sense, even though it is
hard for a non-Mormon to follow. What you said below about Christians
Baptists really doesn't
OK!
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 4:08
AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re:
[TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2In a message dated 1/10/2005 8:04:57 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I was
interviewed on Ralph's show several times. I like him and his
daughter.
Kay
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Kevin
DeeganSent: Tuesday, 11 January, 2005 09.58To:
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk]
DAVEH: Like most words, there is more than one definition of
Christian. Some (such as myself) are quite happy thinking of it as
encompassing a lot of people who have a faith in Christ or attempt to
follow his teachings. This is also typical of most dictionary
definitions. On the other hand,
Kevin Deegan wrote:
DAVEH asks for a definition
You ask for a definition.
DAVEH: YesI'd like to hear a real definition of Christian from
both you and Perry, since you both seem so adamant to exclude Mormons
from being considered Christian. After reading through all you
John wrote:
You apparently teach that Christ was
at one time not the Son.
It is not my teaching, but the teaching of Judy that came via Finis Dake,
Adam Clarke, Albert Barnes, etc. The word son, especially as used in the
phrase, Son of Man, is a term that applies to him when he became human
DaveH, You are simply straining at gnats
to avoid the obvious. Heres what is Christian IS NOT: a believer in
multiple-gods, or that Jesus is just another one of us gods, or that we can all
evolve into another Jesus, or that everyone born on earth is born due to some
gods in heaven having
Izzy in red:
JD,
while some of us judge doctrine, your words seem to judge people on TT .
I find no manner of rudeness written towards, DaveH, and Im sure
he will attest that he feels quite among friends on TT. Izzy
DAVEH: Though I suspect I do have many friends
on TT, I failed to
Dave,
Have we established that unless I join the LDS Church
I can not be saved?
Or am I taking these quotes out of context?
I do not:
exclude by definition
exclude by creed
ad nauseam
For more of this Nauseam read Stephen Robinson's book
--- Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Kevin
He
didn't ask what a Christian is NOT, he asked what the definition for Christian
IS. He didn't ask about Joseph Smith and his alleged activities or ideas
are/were.
Kay
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of
ShieldsFamilySent:
I got up and began just wondering around the
book store -- totally focused on this discision about to be
made (some would call this prayer.) No one to
talk to. No help. Just me and my poor old dumb
self. I rounded the end of one of the book racks and started
down yet another aisle. I
John signed off:
John -- Founder and Happy host to the
Theology known as Smithism.
Thanks Pairy
I think when Parry used the term Smithism, he was referring to the
doctrines of Joseph Smith, not John Smithson. :-)
Peace be with you.
David Miller.
--
Let your speech be always
Matthew
10:41
41He who receives a prophet
in the name of a prophet shall receive a prophet's reward; and he who receives
a righteous man in the name of a righteous man shall receive a righteous man's
reward.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Bill Taylor wrote:
This, I believe, is John's point vis-a-vis
Romans 2. A Gentile may live his entire
life (especially back then) and never have
an occasion to hear the name of Jesus Christ,
let alone respond to him in faith;
Have you read Tom Wright on Romans 2? Do you depart from Tom
Kay, in the past nine years this has been
explained to DaveH ad nauseum. Its a ploy. Why
dont YOU try to get through to him? Izzy
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Slade Henson
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005
9:45 AM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Awesome post, David! Izzy
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:TruthTalk- This passage of
John 1:18 also continues the Word made Flesh theme from
four verses earlier. The idea is that man hath not seen God, but man has
seen the only begotten Son. Why? Because the son of
John wrote:
I Cor 8:4-7 -- we were talking about
many gods -- remember? I thought this passage
kindof supported DH when he spoke of those who
believe in other gods. The first church had it believers
as well.
But 1 Cor. 8 makes it clear that those who perceived that there were
He
asked for people's definition of Christian. I gave one. He realizes everyone has
different definitions for christian. He wants to know yours.
K.
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of
ShieldsFamilySent: Tuesday, 11 January, 2005
1)
This Church is the only true and living church upon
the face of the whole earth there is NO SALVATION
outside the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day
Saints. (Bruce McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, Page 670)
2)
We cannot accept that any other church can lead its
members to SALVATION. (The
Isn't that the same thing Catholics say? You go to hell unless you're
Catholic? And JW's? Aren't they like the 144,000 and if you aren't one of
them, you go to hell? There is no church who can lead its members to
salvation. Salvation is grace through faith.
Kay
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From:
Dave Hansen wrote:
... some tend to want to take a very narrow
view in an effort to exclude others from their
club, so to speak. I am rather amused that
most of those wishing to adopt a very strict
definition are usually unwilling to share that
definition. It makes me wonder why they
Yes, same line.
Birds of a feather flock together.
What do you think of we are the ONE TRUE CHURCH
And since you are outside that church where does it
put you?
Church Authorities say you are either Mormon or you
are without salvation.
It would seem you are either a Mormon or YOU are
without
Bill Taylor wrote:
LOL, David, be sure to pull out your trusty Encarta
the next time you need a theological explanation
for a biblical term.
LOL. I was very surprised to find the word there. I thought you might find
it interesting, and especially looking at its definition, it might help
DaveH
Question was Abraham a Christian?
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I think they can think what they want. Doesn't necessarily mean they're
right.
Kay
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin Deegan
Sent: Tuesday, 11 January, 2005 12.14
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Definition of
DavidM,
We have discussed this here before. Do you believe that the jesus and god
that LDS teaches are the Jesus and God that the Bible teaches? If so, then
say hi to your brother Lucifer, and your
once-a-man-now-a-god-from-the-planet-kolob father. If not, then why do you
consider them
OK
Is not what is good for the goose good for the gander?
They exclude you from the ONE TRUE Church
Why can't we exclude them from Christianity
If they believe they are so right in the ONE TRUE
Church Why are they so insistent on becoming part of
APOSTATE CHRISTIANITY?
--- Slade Henson [EMAIL
I don't really care that they allegedly exclude me from their church.
Obviously, Dave himself doesn't exclude fellowship with the people here even
though they are not part of the Mormon church. Christianity encompasses a
whole lot more than just one sect. Baptists, Lutherans, Catholics, Mormons,
Dave Hansen wrote:
... discuss why you think Jesus would have offered
PS 82:6 as a defense against those who were
accusing him of equating himself with God?
John 10:31-39
(31) Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.
(32) Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my
Hes had it before. Izzy
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Slade Henson
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005
10:22 AM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon
Related #2
He asked for people's definition of
Christian. I gave
Maybe
he's slow or forgot...he did say he was getting up there in age. Alzheimer's? I
would think it would only take a few seconds to give it to him
again.
Kay
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of
ShieldsFamilySent: Tuesday, 11
I don't really care that they allegedly exclude me from their church.
Obviously, Dave himself doesn't exclude fellowship with the people here
even
though they are not part of the Mormon church.
Kay
And spiders dont mind fellowshipping
with flies, either. J Izzy
We cannot accept that any other church can lead its
members to SALVATION. (The Masters Church, Course
A, Mormon Sunday school text.)
We are not talking fellowship, we are talking NO
SALVATION OUTSIDE THE LDS CHURCH
That is Pretty EXCLUSIVE
Groups that claim to be O.T.C. (ONE TRUE CHURCH)
JW's
LOL : ) Good one, IZZY
--- ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't really care that they allegedly exclude me
from their church.
Obviously, Dave himself doesn't exclude fellowship
with the people here even
though they are not part of the Mormon church.
Kay
And spiders don't
Perry wrote:
Do you believe that the jesus and god
that LDS teaches are the Jesus and God
that the Bible teaches?
The Mormon testimony is that the Jesus and God of the Bible is the true
Savior through whom we receive the redemption of our sins. I accept that
testimony.
The Mormon testimony
In a message dated 1/11/2005 5:13:28 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
OK OK
What do you think?
If I accept DAVEH as a Christian do you think he would accept me as a Mormon?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 1/10/2005 11:51:25 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL
Street Preachers. :)
Most of them make like this. I heard a cultish type make the claim many
times. I also heard one of his followers claim someone was going to the
Lake of Fire and he was going to be the one to push the other man into it.
From the Catholic encyclopedia:
Moreover, the
In a message dated 1/11/2005 5:30:06 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Cool story, John.
Bill
Isn't this the really cool thing about that story: the art of 'practicing the presense of God in one single act that does not end.'"
Man, I like that and only
In a message dated 1/11/2005 5:19:54 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So then what is your purpose in looking "to" the heart?
How is looking to the heart accomplished?
The scripture does not say you can look to the heart as long as you judge not.
It says men look on the
In a message dated 1/11/2005 6:13:41 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Why would you want to be accepted as a Mormon?
Kay
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Kevin Deegan
Sent: Tuesday, 11 January, 2005 08.11
To:
Benny
HindEnd...too funny.
I
don't think the Jews of the first church called themselves Christians. I believe
they called themselves...Derechimfollowers of the way.
Geez,
we went from dangerous to evlBetter watch it, Johnny-Boy
we just may eat Pentecostals for
I do not glibbly accept Dave as a Christian -- it is based upon his
answer to a question I asked about Christ. In word (script), he
expressed my faith.
JD
A matter
of grave concern for the discerning. Izzy
In a message dated 1/11/2005 10:43:09 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Geez, we went from dangerous to evlBetter watch it, Johnny-Boy we just may eat Pentecostals for snacks! :)
AND, as Pentecostal so often do, we will be raised to fight another day.
Yes, I
know. As am Iwe would not eat Pentecostals for snacksUNCLEAN! UNCLEAN!
Sorry, but Pentecostals just aren't koshernot for food consumption
anyhow!
Kay
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent:
Kay wrote:
Geez, we went from dangerous to
evlBetter watch it, Johnny-Boy
we just may eat Pentecostals for snacks! :)
I hope you did not perceive me to be calling Messianics dangerous. My
position is that the Messianic movement is of God, but there are some within
it
No, David, I didn't.
You do realize, though, that Messi's are the only real Christians,
right???!!
:)
K.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Miller
Sent: Tuesday, 11 January, 2005 14.19
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re:
My mistake Jeff. I did not realize that you were a slow learner. Sorry.
Terry
Jeff Powers wrote:
Wrong Terry,
I have had the pleasure of dealing with Mormans for many, many years.
Also a few
DavidM,
From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I consider them Christians because they embrace the Biblical testimony
that Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life, and that no man may come to
the Father but by him.
Which Jesus? The eternal word that became flesh through a miraculous
birth, or
Bill Taylor wrote:
In a free moment down the road will you speak
a few words to the recent discovery in, I believe
it was, Montana, where a T-Rex was found and
discovered to have been preserved with blood
still in its composition? Are you familiar with this?
The limited information I have
Subject: Ted Kennedy - when will he learn?
<>Last week... making a fool of himself yet again Ted Kennedy said:
<>
A "torture" known as "waterboarding"
(where theenemy combatant'snose is dunked under water in a scare
tatic to simulate drowning) is being practiced by the US
Very good points, Perry. I agree. Izzy
I believe that despite the teachings of the RCC, there are those who
find
Christ, and put their faith in Him for their salvation. But, I think
many of
the RCC may be lost. Actually, I feel a similar way about LDS. I
believe
there are
David Miller wrote:
I am not aware of any pure Christian sect.
Peace be with you.
David Miller.
===
I am planning on starting one as soon as I can find time. Keep those
love offerings pouring in. We need a building fund ( and a yacht).
Terry
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/1/11/104058.shtml
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Terry Clifton
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005
2:12 PM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon
Related #2
David Miller wrote:
I am not aware of any pure Christian sect.Peace be with
LOL! Our condolences, Terry. J
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Terry Clifton
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005
2:23 PM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: [TruthTalk] [Fwd: Fw: I
just don't look good naked any more]
Subject: I just
Please DaveH
Hear my plea, I desparately need a definition of Mormonism
How else can we compare definitions?
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I still have not heard any quotes from any Authority in some of the
sects that claim to be the O.T.C.
It has been asserted that ALL groups claim to be the O.T.C.
Not so, I do not think there are any
Can ANYONE show where the groups below have ever said they are O.T.C.?
Baptists?
The Oneness of
YHVHvs.
Plurality
One of the greatest
arguments against the concept of the deity of Messiahis that YHVHis an absolute ONE. With this concept,
there is no room for the Ruach haKodesh[1]or Messiah[2]as being YHVH as well. The
Antimissionarymovement uses this argument to ward
From: "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED]John
wrote:You apparently teach that Christ wasat one time not the
Son.
DM: It is not my teaching, but the teaching of Judy that came via Finis
Dake, Adam Clarke, Albert Barnes, etc.
jt: Correction David. This is what I believe at this
point but it
Hello,
Judy. Please understand that there is no past, present, or future tense in the
Hebrew Scriptures. We can infer past or present or future by perfect and
imperfect tenses, but prophesy...? It breaks a lot of the grammar rules. It can
be fun as long as you don't get dogmatic about it.
John wrote:
You apparently teach that Christ was
at one time not the Son.
DM:
It is not my teaching, but the teaching of Judy
that came via Finis Dake, Adam Clarke, Albert
Barnes, etc.
Judy Taylor wrote:
Correction David. This is what I believe at this
point but it did not come via the
Notice how the ACLU edits out freedom of religion when talking about freedom
of speech on their website. They make the point that it probably is no
accident that freedom of speech is the first freedom mentioned, but they
seem oblivious to the fact that freedom of religion comes first in the
Terry,
I'll give ya that one, but remember paybacks are coming!
Jeff
Life makes warriors of us all.
To emerge the victors, we must arm
ourselves with the most potent of weapons.
That weapon is prayer.
--Rebbe Nachman of Breslov
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From: Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thank you for the temporary mercy. :-)
Terry
Jeff Powers wrote:
Terry,
I'll give ya that one, but remember paybacks are coming!
Jeff
My mistake Jeff. I did not realize that you were a slow learner.
Sorry.
Terry
Slade Henson wrote:
Only Begotten" means "unique."
-- slade
I evidently need a little help here Slade. Does the word "Begotten"
have no relation to the word "Begat"? Do both not relate to child
birth? I understand that "only" means "unique". Does this mean
something other
Yes,
basically it has nothing to do with it. "Begot" is a terrible translation. Two
different languages
--slade
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Terry
CliftonSent: Tuesday, 11 January, 2005 18.29To:
In a message dated 1/11/2005 7:47:55 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I think when Parry used the term "Smithism," he was referring to the
doctrines of Joseph Smith, not John Smithson. :-)
Yes -- you are correct, Sir !! I have taken care of that..my mistake. I tend to
Ah but Kay my wifes sister in law answered my question about the 144,000.
When I asked her if she was one of the 144,000 she replied No and then I
asked her why she bothered then. Thats when she called me Satan! The beauty
of it all is that she has never spoken to me since! But I still talk to
In a message dated 1/11/2005 8:28:58 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
He asked for people's definition of Christian. I gave one. He realizes everyone has different definitions for christian. He wants to know yours.
Do we all know why this "Christian definition" thingy is so
In a message dated 1/11/2005 8:41:34 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
John wrote:
I Cor 8:4-7 -- we were talking about
"many gods" -- remember? I thought this passage
kindof supported DH when he spoke of those who
believe in other gods. The first church had it
Remember to point out the mud slides in California the other day next time
David! Thats no bend in the river either! Good point.
Jeff
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From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 15:20
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk]
In a message dated 1/11/2005 9:04:27 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Isn't that the same thing Catholics say? You go to hell unless you're
Catholic? And JW's? Aren't they like the 144,000 and if you aren't one of
them, you go to hell? There is no church who can lead its
In a message dated 1/11/2005 4:55:22 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Please yourself John.
Excuse me ?? !! I am afraid to ask what this means... but I feel another grin comin on !!
JD
In a message dated 1/10/2005 11:55:01 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
jt: Unscriptural John. How did he get born saved since everyone is born into a "fallen creation" (sin) in the first Adam. The scriptures teach that God saw us in Christ before the foundation of the world
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