On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 18:59:36 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
So you would disagree with Bunyon? "In my preaching of the Word, I took
special notice of this one thing, namely, that the Lord did lead me to begin
where His Word begins with sinners; that is, to condemn all
You
have groups two different people. You have the hypocrites and you have the
invalidators. They are not necessarily the same
monster.
--
slade
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Message-From:ShieldsFamilySent: Wednesday, 19
January, 2005 23.39Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] What is a
Christian?
This
poses an interesting question. What do you think is the fate of those who
believe Jesus was just a man and not G-d?
--
slade
-Original Message-From:Judy
TaylorSent: Thursday, 20 January, 2005 02.53Subject: Re:
[TruthTalk] What is a Christian?
jt: So you just
Title: Re: [TruthTalk] Bookman
I am reposting thisreview Jonathan did in June
2004 because I believe it is pertinent, not for the purpose of learning
spiritual truth but for apologetics. This book is a WW bestseller still after
2yrs on the market (even in skeptical France) and Doubleday is
I don't believe they will be present at the marriage
supper of the Lamb Slade because they don't have the proper
garment. IOW - they don't make it.
jht
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 05:45:05 -0500 "Slade Henson" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
This
poses an interesting question. What do you think is the
I don't believe they will be present at the marriage
supper of the Lamb Slade because they don't have the proper
garment. IOW - they don't make it ... Jesus
Christ the same, yesterday, today, and forever. He was a member
of the Godhead yesterday, same today, and same
forever. jht
On
Hang
on to that joy, Debbie. It only gets better...
Kay
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SawczakSent: Wednesday, 19 January, 2005 21.38To:
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk] Etzrah
vaGer
There
Hehehe...he's going up on trial soon. I hope they televise
it.
Kay
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ShieldsFamilySent: Wednesday, 19 January, 2005
17.46To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE:
[TruthTalk] Street
Hahaha...the Felonious Spankerthose types might enjoy it,
though...
Kay
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ShieldsFamilySent: Wednesday, 19 January, 2005
17.40To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE:
[TruthTalk]
We think reality through concepts. The two are
always at variance with one another. IFF you agree with this formulation then,
will you submit questions that arise from it?
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From:
Slade
Henson
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: January 20,
I've got a dumb question then
They're all drunk and stoopid by then. Why bother?
Okay...I'll stick my neck out here. I used to go to Dance Clubs. I used to
take people's keys and drive them home. I used to talk to them and witness
to them on the way to their homes, which I found didn't work.
Could
it not be symbolism...and just another name for Satan? He is called the dragon,
the ancient dragon, the serpent, etc.
Kay
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ShieldsFamilySent: Wednesday, 19 January, 2005
17.17To:
Title: Re: [TruthTalk] Bookman
Jonathan asked a question prefaced by 'are' while
Judy answered as if it had been 'should'. The church has failed/is failing
miserably in the manner it defines the role of women as 'lesser
participants'.Please spare me the traditional reading of Pauline texts
We
didn't need our dog to help. In fact, she would scatter them more! Sheep are
very interesting...for instance, you have to have more than one. They die
without a 'buddy". If one dies, they do NOT leave their dead friend. Many, many
things we can learn from sheep. We'll be getting sheep
Thanks for this
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From: Slade Henson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: January 20, 2005 06:37
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Street Preaching
I've got a dumb question then
They're all drunk and stoopid by then. Why bother?
There
are also lots of them in jails.
When I
worked with the mentally ill...many years agoI was absolutely POSITIVE many
of them were indeed possessed.
Oh,
boy, this can raise lots of questions...
Kay
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You're welcome. I've got another one, too, that illustrates maybe more of an
in your face or shocking example:
When I was in jail, I met alot of different women. Since my case was highly
publicized, I received a ton of mail. There was excitement daily when it was
mail call time. The guards would
Title: Re: [TruthTalk] Bookman
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 06:51:04 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Jonathan asked a question
prefaced by 'are' while Judy answered as if it had been 'should'. The
church has failed/is failing miserably in the manner it defines the role of
Glad you're enjoying them. I'm actually going to pretend I'm going to work
today...have a case. And I'll just HAVE to needle in some discussion with my
boss on the ride out there. He would not be gotten by yelling at him,
either. Gently, ever so gently. Most people are very fragile. At least the
In a message dated 1/19/2005 8:52:37 PM Pacific Standard
Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
OK
David Miller,
I am calling you a liar in regards to what you said below
Jeff apologized about 1 1/2 hours ago and quit the forum.
He
didnt sound like he was having a very good time. Izzy
And angels are called stars? J Iz
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Slade Henson
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005
5:41 AM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk]
Traditional Christian theology
Could it not be symbolism...and
Which question am I being ask to answer that was
posed by Slade?
- Original Message -
From:
ShieldsFamily
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: January 20, 2005 07:57
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] What if Jesus is
not God?
How would you answer
Slades
Why is it that schizophrenic paranoids are
always talking about scriptures/God? Has always seemed very demonic to me. So
how do drugs modulate demonsso its gotta be a physical chemical
thing. There are so many unknown elements that we dont yet
understand, and might not until His return. In
Title: Re: [TruthTalk] Bookman
May I ask you to elucidate on those 'blasphemous'
theories as they relate to the 'human side of Christ?
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From:
ShieldsFamily
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: January 20, 2005 08:05
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk]
The
kind you eat! :)
Kay
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ShieldsFamilySent: Thursday, 20 January, 2005
08.08To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE:
[TruthTalk] What is a Christian?
How sad!!! We need
sheep
Title: Re: [TruthTalk] Bookman
That Jesus had a baby by Mary for
starters. Izzy
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005
7:11 AM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk]
Jonathan's Book Review
Oops! Copied the wrong one: What do you
think is the fate of those who believe Jesus was just a man and not G-d?
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ShieldsFamily
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005
7:18 AM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: RE:
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Subject: Fw: The LARK Program
This is probably the best way to handle the POW situation.
cc:
Subject:The LARK Program
A person wrote a letter to the White House complaining about the treatment
of a captive taken during the Afghanistanwar. Attached is a
Some wounds need to be cut wide open to remove the cancer of sin only then can you apply the healing balm of Gilead.
Some are farther along in the process and are like ripe fruit ready to be plucked from fire
Some plant some water, some needs to prepare the ground.
Hopefully we have the spiritual
Please pray for Gods protection
over President Bush today. Thank you Lord for four more years! J Izzy
I dont understand; please explain
your last sentence. I wonder what you think of Jesus saying No
one comes to the Father but through Me. Wouldnt that mean
knowing that He is divine? Izzy
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Thursday,
Good Morning Bill:
I believe that everything you say belowis true in
the natural sense but Jesus was usingthe natural to explain spiritual
realities and because the scriptures can not contradict -
I have tobelieve that everyone has had their
namewritten in the Lamb's Book of Life since
In a message dated 1/20/2005 6:17:03 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
When you getting your eye-underderstanding coordination
I am wondering if some critics will attack me based on this coordination problem. Let's wait and see.
J
Judy Taylor wrote:
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 00:05:21 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Jesus
was not street preacher.
He spoke and taught in places that encouaged the exchange of ideas
(such as a synagogue or, perhaps, the Temple courtyard).
Crowds followed Him and presented
From:
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Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005
8:20 AM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk]
Traditional Christian theology -- does sham mean anything
In a message dated 1/20/2005 6:17:03
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 09:09:16 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In a message dated 1/20/2005 2:43:08 AM Pacific
Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:jt:I take
it you are all for "friendship evangelism" but I don't see that in the life of
Jesus or his disciples, that's not what the
I can relate to that, as believing and
telling myself Gods Word over many years delivered me from tremendous
depression and self hatred. When my sons were very young I used to wake lock
myself in the closet in the middle of the night to cry so no one would hear.
Praise God, apart from Whom
From: Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
DaveH,
Something is being twisted here beyond it's bounds. The term street
preacher refers to all evangelicals that preach in the open air, but you
are using it to refer to those that offend you.
DAVEH: ??? I don't recall saying
PS. Diffrent strokes for diffrent
folks.
Is 43:3A
bruised reed shall he not break, and the smoking flax shall he not quench: he
shall bring forth judgment unto truth.
Is28: 24Doth the plowman plow all
day to sow? doth he open and break the clods of his ground?
25When he hath made
I like it. Thanks for this. I don't believe
Jesus had billboards or raised his voice in the streets but
then I would hope there wouldn't be sodomites prancing
around Jerusalem or anywhere else in Israel.
Maybe Slade and Kay know more about it... and He was
sent to the lost sheep of the house
DaveH,
I know you did not address your response to me, but when you talk about
some TTrs below, I am probablyi n that group and would like to clarify one
thing.
From: Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
IOW.Is there any point at which there will ever be /peace /between some
TTers and me, or
*REPRIMAND*
Hold it, Judy. You are getting
too personal here. You wrote, "...possibly you are deceived in this
areaalso John andneed to do your homework." That might fly
with some people, but think about who you are writing to. He is likely
tobe offended by this and start being personal
Kay wrote:
They're all drunk and stoopid by then.
Why bother?
I try not to ask God why. I just obey. But if I had to guess based upon
the results, I would say that it is because it does reach the hearts. Some
are drunk, some are not, and sometimes God miraculously sobers them up.
The
ABC
News is soliciting families burying their son or daughter today to talk with ABC
so they can BALANCE their inauguration coverage with a soldier's funeral.
Ugh
Peace be with you.David Miller.
San Antonio
Express-News Watch tipped off Powerline to the latest
Perry wrote:
... the pagan rituals, secret handshakes, passwords,
names, and penalties they are told they will suffer
if they reveal the secret pagan rituals of the temple.
Dave Hansen,
I would like to hear your take on Perry's comment. You have been a Mormon
for 50 years. Do you have a
Now David, Think about it,how could he answer that if he already took a secret oath not to reveal anything?
Besides it is too Sacred.David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Perry wrote: ... the pagan rituals, secret handshakes, passwords, names, and penalties they are told they will suffer if they
Debbie wrote:
David, do you think I was saying any of
the following?
1. All cultural norms are right and supersede
biblical norms.
2. The message of the Good News will never
conflict with cultural norms.
3. We should not expect the acceptance of the
Good News to change cultural norms.
No,
Dave, Blaine, if you see any error in Kevin's post below, feel free to
correct them.
From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Why so many LDS bad apples?
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 09:47:43 -0800 (PST)
In a message dated 1/20/2005 6:56:29 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 09:09:16 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In a message dated 1/20/2005 2:43:08 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
jt:I take it you are all for "friendship evangelism"
In a message dated 1/20/2005 6:55:58 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Dont worry JD, we realize you have bigger problems. J
Don't be so hard on yourself.
In a message dated 1/20/2005 3:59:15 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Okay...I'll stick my neck out here. I used to go to Dance Clubs. I used to
take people's keys and drive them home. I used to talk to them and witness
to them on the way to their homes, which I found didn't
John wrote:
As far as missing that point in the life of Christ
-- friendship evangelism probably consituted
the vast majority of His day. Isa 58:9-11 is
what I am talking about
Interesting passage, John. Isaiah 58 was a passage instrumental in causing
me to preach publicly the first time
In a message dated 1/20/2005 12:39:32 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
John wrote:
As far as missing that point in the life of Christ
-- "friendship evangelism" probably consituted
the vast majority of His day. Isa 58:9-11 is
what I am talking about
Interesting passage, John.
Hi John.
I remembered in some past post you had expressed appreciation for the church
fathers. Have you read some of the public preaching accounts there? After
I sent my last post, I remembered one in particular that I had read years
ago that had struck me as very reminiscent of what happens
Was this account of Rome or TT?
Now, inasmuch as the people began to assent willingly to the things which were sincerely spoken, and to embrace his simple discourse, those who thought themselves learned or philosophic began to laugh at the man, and to flout him, and to throw out for him the
"It would be very easy to prove that revivals of religion have usually been accompanied, if not caused, by a considerable amount of preaching out of doors, or in unusual places." C H Spurgeon
Why did Jessus send his servants into the highways and hedges?
Just to do 1 on 1?
George Whitefield
John wrote:
Let me get this straight. It is because this was
your first public message that you have trouble
seeing friendship evangelism there?Huh?
The point is that this passage, Is. 58, exposed to me how friendship
evangelism was not enough. Up to that point in time, that is all I
When
the air hits the cancer, the cancer spreads much quicker and kills the
patient.
Kay
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Kevin
DeeganSent: Thursday, 20 January, 2005 08.35To:
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE:
Hehehe...homegrown sheep are the best
Kay
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ShieldsFamilySent: Thursday, 20 January, 2005
08.22To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE:
[TruthTalk] What is a Christian?
Ohh!
I just HAVE to ask...
Are Mormon undies different than anyone else's undies??? Were they female
Mormon undies? Did the preachers get them as prizes??
Dang...I always thought Mormons didn't wear undies.
:)
Kay
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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David, is there some place on the web where I can read more of this?
Terry
David Miller wrote:
Recognitions of Clement,
Ante-Nicene Fathers Volume 8. It is an account attributed to Clement of
Rome telling how he came to meet Peter by first hearing Barnabas preach in
Rome. His description of
Thats what we expect from the
liberal press. Nothing but the negatives and bias beyond belief. Dont
get me going. Izzy
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Miller
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005
11:17 AM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject:
Oh, boy, Kay--did you ever open a can of worms. Maybe you'd better check
out the archives on mormon underwear. :-) Izzy
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Slade Henson
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 5:20 PM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Really? Uh-oham I gonna get a spanking???
Kay
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, 20 January, 2005 18.56
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] What is a Christian?
Oh, boy, Kay--did you ever
PILGRIM BECOMES AN EVANGELIST
An Allegory of the 21st Century
Having only had my eyes opened for a short time, I now realized that most of the people around me were rushing towards the City of Destruction. My heart burned within me as I struggled to persuade them that they must turn and go with
Is there then not supposed to be any contention in public preaching?
LDS say contention is of the devil.
Whay say ye?
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Title: Re: [TruthTalk] Bookman
DAVEH: I'm not sure I should step forward on this, Lance, as I do not
know of any specific proof one way or the other. SoFTR, I don't
have a strong opinion one way or the other. However, I do not believe
such would be blasphemous, as was suggested below. I am
Kevin Deegan wrote:
Because Christians are the BRIDE
Those before are called like John the Baptist the Friend of the
Bridegroom John 3:29
DAVEH: You are losing me on this, Kevin. Soare you saying that
your definition for Christian.
Christians: Those
who worship the One
Kevin Deegan wrote:
DAVE I have read your comments below. You seem to think we are a
bad witness.
DAVEH: Did I say that? I probably don't use witness in quite
the same way as you would. I would probably substitute representative
for witness. But KevinI'm just thinking out loud on
A teacher who is attempting to teach, without inspiring the pupil with a
desire to learn, is hammering on a cold iron. -Horace Mann, educational
reformer (1796-1859)
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