Re: [Vo]:LENR Insights from Proton 21

2017-07-10 Thread Axil Axil
Proton 21 is a science based effort whose out of the box thinking and
associated results are not commercially applicable. This is why their
results are so valuable to analyze. Their methods and analysis are not
constrained by the braindead fixation of producing excess heat as detected
by calorimetry.

Similar science based results have come from Ken Shoulders and presently
from Safire.

On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 2:18 PM, bobcook39...@hotmail.com <
bobcook39...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Jones and Axil—
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> A additional idea in connection with the Proton 21 folks and the Stanford
> strung theory folks:
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> It may be that after the super heavies formed during inflation, the
> unstable super superheavies evaporated/exploded and only a reduced of
> stable super heavies remained, well distributed as dark matter in the
> expanding universe consistent with SOBB.
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> Bob Cook
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> PS: What has happened to these folks in the last ten to 15 years?  Did
> they suffer the same ridicule of being “scientific frauds”  as others,
> currently and in the past, have in the field of LENR?
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> Maybe Jed knows?
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> Bob Cook
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> *From: *bobcook39...@hotmail.com
> *Sent: *Monday, July 10, 2017 9:09 AM
> *To: *vortex-l@eskimo.com
> *Subject: *RE: [Vo]:LENR Insights from Proton 21
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> Jones—
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> The big bang may still hold, if the super heavies were formed early- on,
> caused the expansion early-- on (inflation) with repulsive gravity  and
> then changed to attractive gravity after the initial rapid inflation.
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> The big bang (BB) will become the standard of BB models,  SOBB.   It may
> require only the addition of a SINGLE constant!
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> Bob Cook
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> *From: *Che <comandantegri...@gmail.com>
> *Sent: *Sunday, July 9, 2017 2:32 PM
> *To: *vortex-l@eskimo.com
> *Subject: *Re: [Vo]:LENR Insights from Proton 21
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> On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 3:10 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> http://rexresearch.com/stuff/stuff7/adamenko.pdf
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> There is another assumption connected with these sections and it refers to
> cosmology. It is known that there is a great quantity of "dark" matter in
> the universe, and it cannot be detected by ordinary tools. It is possible
> that the "black holes" we observed are part of this matter. It may be made
> of the nuclei of super heavy elements.
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> Such a fact would appear to militate against the 'Young Universe' 'Big
> Bang' theory, wouldn't it..? It would take a LOT of time to build up such a
> huge mass of trans-uranic elements thruout the Kosmos...
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Re: [Vo]:LENR Insights from Proton 21

2017-07-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
bobcook39...@hotmail.com  wrote:


> PS: What has happened to these folks in the last ten to 15 years?  Did
> they suffer the same ridicule of being “scientific frauds”  as others,
> currently and in the past, have in the field of LENR?
>
>
>
> Maybe Jed knows?
>

They come to ICCF conferences and I have chatted with them from time to
time, but I do not know what they are up to.

- Jed


RE: [Vo]:LENR Insights from Proton 21

2017-07-10 Thread bobcook39...@hotmail.com
Jones and Axil—

A additional idea in connection with the Proton 21 folks and the Stanford 
strung theory folks:
It may be that after the super heavies formed during inflation, the unstable 
super superheavies evaporated/exploded and only a reduced of stable super 
heavies remained, well distributed as dark matter in the expanding universe 
consistent with SOBB.

Bob Cook

PS: What has happened to these folks in the last ten to 15 years?  Did they 
suffer the same ridicule of being “scientific frauds”  as others, currently and 
in the past, have in the field of LENR?

Maybe Jed knows?

Bob Cook


From: bobcook39...@hotmail.com<mailto:bobcook39...@hotmail.com>
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2017 9:09 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Subject: RE: [Vo]:LENR Insights from Proton 21

Jones—

The big bang may still hold, if the super heavies were formed early- on, caused 
the expansion early-- on (inflation) with repulsive gravity  and then changed 
to attractive gravity after the initial rapid inflation.

The big bang (BB) will become the standard of BB models,  SOBB.   It may 
require only the addition of a SINGLE constant!

Bob Cook



From: Che<mailto:comandantegri...@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2017 2:32 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Subject: Re: [Vo]:LENR Insights from Proton 21



On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 3:10 PM, Axil Axil 
<janap...@gmail.com<mailto:janap...@gmail.com>> wrote:
http://rexresearch.com/stuff/stuff7/adamenko.pdf


There is another assumption connected with these sections and it refers to 
cosmology. It is known that there is a great quantity of "dark" matter in the 
universe, and it cannot be detected by ordinary tools. It is possible that the 
"black holes" we observed are part of this matter. It may be made of the nuclei 
of super heavy elements.
Display More

Such a fact would appear to militate against the 'Young Universe' 'Big Bang' 
theory, wouldn't it..? It would take a LOT of time to build up such a huge mass 
of trans-uranic elements thruout the Kosmos...







RE: [Vo]:LENR Insights from Proton 21

2017-07-10 Thread bobcook39...@hotmail.com
Jones—

The big bang may still hold, if the super heavies were formed early- on, caused 
the expansion early-- on (inflation) with repulsive gravity  and then changed 
to attractive gravity after the initial rapid inflation.

The big bang (BB) will become the standard of BB models,  SOBB.   It may 
require only the addition of a SINGLE constant!

Bob Cook



From: Che<mailto:comandantegri...@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2017 2:32 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Subject: Re: [Vo]:LENR Insights from Proton 21



On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 3:10 PM, Axil Axil 
<janap...@gmail.com<mailto:janap...@gmail.com>> wrote:
http://rexresearch.com/stuff/stuff7/adamenko.pdf


There is another assumption connected with these sections and it refers to 
cosmology. It is known that there is a great quantity of "dark" matter in the 
universe, and it cannot be detected by ordinary tools. It is possible that the 
"black holes" we observed are part of this matter. It may be made of the nuclei 
of super heavy elements.
Display More

Such a fact would appear to militate against the 'Young Universe' 'Big Bang' 
theory, wouldn't it..? It would take a LOT of time to build up such a huge mass 
of trans-uranic elements thruout the Kosmos...






Re: [Vo]:LENR Insights from Proton 21

2017-07-09 Thread Che
On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 3:10 PM, Axil Axil  wrote:

> http://rexresearch.com/stuff/stuff7/adamenko.pdf
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There is another assumption connected with these sections and it refers to
> cosmology. It is known that there is a great quantity of "dark" matter in
> the universe, and it cannot be detected by ordinary tools. It is possible
> that the "black holes" we observed are part of this matter. It may be made
> of the nuclei of super heavy elements.
> Display More
>

Such a fact would appear to militate against the 'Young Universe' 'Big
Bang' theory, wouldn't it..? It would take a LOT of time to build up such a
huge mass of trans-uranic elements thruout the Kosmos...