Re: [Vo]:a mysterious source of oxygen

[William Beaty]

On Wed, 1 Jan 2025, MSF wrote:


For extra fun on this subject, look up Glomar Explorer.


They mined iron!   Kilotons of it.

I know a retired machinist who worked on something called "Azorian," 
designing giant machinery in some mysterious Northwest shipyard.



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Re: [Vo]:a mysterious source of oxygen

[H L V]

This mystery is beyond me, but I thought other people might find this story
interesting.
Maybe it is somehow related to CF as Robin suggests...

Harry

On Wed, Jan 1, 2025 at 1:27 PM MSF  wrote:

>
> Considering that these modules are formed by both biological and
> non-biological processes, it's almost impossible to determine what
> chemistry might occur at their surface.
> The main metal oxide contained in these is iron. Separating the rest from
> this is quite a challenge.
> To save you reading the entire article, here is the part of the Wikipedia
> article discussing the "dark oxygen".
>
> Abiogenesis theoryA recent study hypothesizes that the nodules are a
> source of "dark oxygen ",
> oxygen produced without light, which provides the seafloor in the deep
> ocean with oxygen.[35]
>  However,
> this study contrasts with many other studies conducted over decades in the
> deep sea that did not detect oxygen production - and in fact showed only
> oxygen consumption.[36]
> [37]
> [38]
> [39]
> [40]
> [41]
> [42]
> [43]
> [44]
> [45]
>  If the
> nodules can produce both electrical energy
>  and oxygen
> , they may challenge the
> conventional theory of abiogenesis
> [46]
> [47]
>  because,
> previously only living things such as plants and algae were known to be
> capable of producing oxygen via photosynthesis
>  which
>
> On Tuesday, December 31st, 2024 at 2:59 PM, H L V 
> wrote:
>
> "Scientists have just discovered a "Dark" Oxygen source at the bottom of
> the ocean, opening questions
> about deep sea mining and the origin of life on Earth!"
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iixZ6UptVNo
>
> Harry
>
>
>

Re: [Vo]:a mysterious source of oxygen

[MSF]

For extra fun on this subject, look up Glomar Explorer.

Re: [Vo]:a mysterious source of oxygen

[MSF]

Considering that these modules are formed by both biological and non-biological 
processes, it's almost impossible to determine what chemistry might occur at 
their surface.
The main metal oxide contained in these is iron. Separating the rest from this 
is quite a challenge.
To save you reading the entire article, here is the part of the Wikipedia 
article discussing the "dark oxygen".

Abiogenesis theory

A recent study hypothesizes that the nodules are a source of "[dark 
oxygen](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_oxygen)", oxygen produced without 
light, which provides the seafloor in the deep ocean with 
oxygen.[35](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manganese_nodule#cite_note-35) 
However, this study contrasts with many other studies conducted over decades in 
the deep sea that did not detect oxygen production - and in fact showed only 
oxygen 
consumption.[36](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manganese_nodule#cite_note-36)[37](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manganese_nodule#cite_note-37)[38](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manganese_nodule#cite_note-38)[39](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manganese_nodule#cite_note-39)[40](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manganese_nodule#cite_note-40)[41](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manganese_nodule#cite_note-41)[42](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manganese_nodule#cite_note-42)[43](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manganese_nodule#cite_note-43)[44](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manganese_nodule#cite_note-44)[45](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manganese_nodule#cite_note-45)
 If the nodules can produce both [electrical 
energy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_energy) and 
[oxygen](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxygen), they may challenge the 
conventional theory of 
[abiogenesis](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenesis)[46](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manganese_nodule#cite_note-46)[47](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manganese_nodule#cite_note-47)
 because, previously only living things such as plants and algae were known to 
be capable of producing oxygen via 
[photosynthesis](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photosynthesis) which

On Tuesday, December 31st, 2024 at 2:59 PM, H L V  wrote:

> "Scientists have just discovered a "Dark" Oxygen source at the bottom of the 
> ocean, opening questions
> about deep sea mining and the origin of life on Earth!"
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iixZ6UptVNo
>
> Harry

Re: [Vo]:a mysterious source of oxygen

[H L V]

In this video a polymetallic nodule is examined by hand and its
metallic composition is described.

"5% nickel, 10% manganese, 4% to 6% copper, 1% cobalt, and the rest is a
kind of silica"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z93ch_nnHHE

Harry

On Tue, Dec 31, 2024 at 6:49 PM Robin 
wrote:

> In reply to  H L V's message of Tue, 31 Dec 2024 17:59:22 -0500:
> Hi,
>
> Maybe the nodules are catalyzing Hydrino production or LENR, resulting in
> Hydrogen being consumed from the water, and
> leaving Oxygen behind?
>
>
> >"Scientists have just discovered a "Dark" Oxygen source at the bottom of
> >the ocean, opening questions
> >about deep sea mining and the origin of life on Earth!"
> >
> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iixZ6UptVNo
> >
> >Harry
> Regards,
>
> Robin van Spaandonk
>
> The future of computer memory clearly lies with multi-layered SOT-MRAM.
> Fast as SRAM, dense as NAND, very low energy due to non-volatility,
> and near infinite rewrites.
>
>

Re: [Vo]:a mysterious source of oxygen

[Robin]

In reply to  H L V's message of Tue, 31 Dec 2024 17:59:22 -0500:
Hi,

Maybe the nodules are catalyzing Hydrino production or LENR, resulting in 
Hydrogen being consumed from the water, and
leaving Oxygen behind?


>"Scientists have just discovered a "Dark" Oxygen source at the bottom of
>the ocean, opening questions
>about deep sea mining and the origin of life on Earth!"
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iixZ6UptVNo
>
>Harry
Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

The future of computer memory clearly lies with multi-layered SOT-MRAM.
Fast as SRAM, dense as NAND, very low energy due to non-volatility, 
and near infinite rewrites.