page discussing future plans here:
http://interreality.org/cgi-bin/moinwiki/moin.cgi/VosRoadMap
Feel free to contribute suggestions about what should happen when, either
on that page or on this list.
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the
instructions on a Microsoft developers fucking BLOG (great documentation
guys), but when I tried it it didn't work (although I didn't spend that
much time tinkering with it).
I would very much appreciate some hints on how to compile Crystal Space
with VC++ Express Beta 2.
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basically by reverse engineering a few ASE
files that someone sent me. I don't have a license for 3DS Max, so the
only way I can find out about how to parse new ASE sections is if people
send me examples.
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the PropertyListener for notifications) which would take some
work.
Anyway I can't possibly agree with Hugh's statement about C# being the same
as VB! It's much closer to C++/Java. Maybe he meant that
VB.NEThttp://VB.NETand C# will both compile into the same MSIL code
or something?
Regards,
Neil
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my last email :-)
Basically, linking managed/unmanaged C++ is easy. Linking unmanged c++ to
any other .Net language requires writing a mananged API wrapper.
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options to show up more than once in the configuration, and for it
to be order-sensitive.
Thoughts?
I'm going to start working on this this week, hopefully.
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this one.
Btw. was there a reason for putting the config twice?
I think that was a cut and paste error :-) That actually wouldn't be
legal, because you can't have two vobjects with the same name at the root
(site) level.
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Testing... I sent out a few messages and they never came back to me.
Just wanted to make sure it still works.
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were
discussing which operating system is best or something :-)
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and migrate to subversion.
Since Reed and I do 99% of VOS development, we're the ones who ultimately
are going to be dealing with it most of the time. Other users are just
going to be doing simple checkouts and updates.
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Added to the list. Although it appears to be a commercial SDK, so it's
less interesting. Another place to collect ideas from, though.
On Tue, 6 Dec 2005, Brian wrote:
How about this one?
http://www.multiverse.net/
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this.
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the client side.
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standpoint.
So to rephrase and answer your original question, it is not the browser
pressing the button, it is the browser sending a message indicating that a
button has been pressed.
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a lower layer which would be
suitable to support those sorts of twitch games. Clearly if we can
scale to handle that, then less lag-sensitive apps won't be a problem :-)
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# usage can just as easily mean that this year,
five people used C# instead of four. *beats head against wall*
There are lies, damn lies, and statistics, but the absolute scum at the
bottom is meaningless corporate IT business-speak :-)
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Reed, could you review this list and add anything you are working on, add
any comments you have, and tick off tasks as they are completed?
http://interreality.org/cgi-bin/moinwiki/moin.cgi/Tasks_Remaining_For_0%2e23_Release
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metaboject were made part of the core libvos.
Comments?
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to libvos, although it should
obviously reduce the number of you're libraries required to link to :-)
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into VOS as an A3DL importer...
http://automagically.de/index.shtml?g3dviewer
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detection/gravity model
provided by Crystal Space. It's not a complete rigid body physics engine
like I wanted, but it's good enough.
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). This will probably be done simply
having standard names, so a vobject named world is a 3D world, the
object named avatar has an avatar model, etc :-)
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No, not yet. I need to update the config files to use XOD.
On Wed, 11 Jan 2006, Reed Hedges wrote:
did you also upgrade the hypervos server?
reed
On Jan 10, 2006, at 8:51 PM, Peter Amstutz wrote:
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the overhead in C++ classes,
and maintain the option of dynamic tables for Python.
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between the two.
You can `bzr get` the code from http://lalo.revisioncontrol.net/bzr/sod/
(And yes, I know the acronym is weird. Sue me.) ;-)
Well, the original text format was going to be tod so maybe you can
change the name ;-)
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in the
same directory, and use property file=... to refer to it.
Suggestions?
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(COD/SOD/XOD)
Ha ha ha :-)
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to interface each and every API call.
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programs using the existing SWIG bindngs, in
vos/swig/tutorials?
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one of them to install the latest XCode.
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on this
stuff :-)
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to support 2.4, but it seems to me like
it's mostly a hassle that doesn't buy us much. Also the Crystal Space
wxgl plugin is only set up to compile against 2.6, I think.
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is boost_thread. Please update from CVS and let me know how it
goes.
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On Sat, 11 Feb 2006, Reed Hedges wrote:
Peter Amstutz wrote:
Yea, it sounds like Lalo has something different in mind, so perhaps the
way to go is to go ahead with two different Python bindings and
eventually have a bake-off to decide which
and how
to set up a world server. Also, assuming you're using the Windows binary
setup and not compiling from source, I don't think the current Windows
installer doesn't includes any demo files (which it really should). I
will see to correcting that and I'll let you know when it's done.
[ Peter
and so the old documentation is very misleading. I'll work on updating
it, but it will take a few days.
However, the short answer to your original question (how to run omnivos)
is:
omnivos -c 3dworld-blocks.xod
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directory here, I copied it from the CVS
version. Afterwards,
the build proceeded as described above.
That is an important oversight. Thank you for bringing it to my
attention.
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On Wed, 22 Feb 2006, Reed Hedges wrote:
Peter Amstutz wrote:
However, the short answer to your original question (how to run omnivos)
is:
omnivos -c 3dworld-blocks.xod
Is loading plugin modules the same on Windows as in Linux?
Yes. Except
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With the latest CVS versions of vos, vos-browser and CS, you should now be
able to compile everything on OS X. Let me know if you run into any
problems.
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tasks of development!
http://interreality.org/download
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keep working on it on my side. I am seriously considering getting a
Mac Mini or MacBook Pro to be able to provide better support for OS X.
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worlds
with omnivos, so it may be that a3dldemo is suffering from bit rot and
needs a little maintainance.
In any event, thanks for your effort so far Kao, and I really do want to
get this working :-)
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] to discuss
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sprites... Should we make the same distinction in vos to make implementation
in Ter'Angreal easier?
No. We want to hide the underlying implementation, so that it would be
possible and reasonable to write a VOS plugin for a whole different 3D
engine if you wanted to.
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++ library or actually
reimplementing it) is something I have given some thought to. However,
nobody has specifically asked for it yet, and we've already got a TODO
list a mile long...
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Fair enough! Anyhow it has been fixed in CVS.
On Thu, 16 Mar 2006, Reed Hedges wrote:
No, I think it's Lalo who is telling you :)
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They're rewriting it in C++, I'm not sure if that helps or hurts the cause
:-)
On Fri, 17 Mar 2006, Benjamin Mesing wrote:
This is incredibly cool.
It can't be cool, it's C ;-)
Ben
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A Property maps to a memory, which is a piece of concrete sensorial
data �- a word, an image, a taste, hunger, pain, etc. It can connect to
concepts just like a concept, so in terms of OOP, it is also a concept.
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getting off track in to Wired-hype territory here :-)
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, appliances, hubs etc. Keep in mind that these are
persistant connections, which is why it is so important to be able to
associate a link with an existing connection: unlike HTTP, they are
stateful connections.
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to do a more
polished version in a vector graphics program and not the gimp :-)
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! :-)
- From your description, it actually sounds like it is working fine! What
else is missing besides misc:talkative (which I think is not really
missing?)
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char with UTF8 encoding.
Of course, normal C strings look a lot like UTF8 encoding so those work,
but when you move that code to a wide-char using platform it blows up.
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, the
current scripts might still work, but they haven't been maintained as far
as I know so if they do it'll be a miracle...
On Mon, 3 Apr 2006, Lalo Martins wrote:
Did you get my Debian patch? It would be nice to have .debs of this
prerelease.
On Mon, 03 Apr 2006 00:56:49 -0400, Peter Amstutz
external build dependencies have reduced to just Boost, which
should make this version of VOS much easier to compile
* Several libraries have been merged into the core library to reduce
clutter
Read more about VOS at http://interreality.org/about
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Sorry about the dupe, the mailing list software had crashed and I was very
confused as to why the message wasn't going out, so I tried sending it
again before I figured out I just needed to restart mailman :-)
On Sun, 16 Apr 2006, Peter Amstutz
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Ok, I finally have a chance to reply to this thread :-)
On Sat, 8 Apr 2006, Lalo Martins wrote:
On Mon, 03 Apr 2006 18:10:57 -0400, Peter Amstutz wrote:
* Ditch CVS in favor of SVN or BZR
I think this is orthogonal to any other goals.
True
the supported modes for
joining a world are going to be. A lot of stuff is still ad hoc because
we don't know what the right solution is, once we've had some experience
to guide the design then we can decide to either change it or formalize
it.
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means, please write a better SQL backend, I am more than happy to
integrate it :-)
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old rows...
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VOS to lots of people who are there and
interested in the 3D internet, so this could be very good for us to get
the word out!
I'll have a full report when I get back...
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support for A3DL.
Add a .x Loader/Parser to CS.
Add the new skeletal animation support to CSVOSA3DL.
I am considering this a top priority, so I am starting work on it now. I
will provide updates as they arrive and welcome comments.
Jason
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Interreality.org has been down for awhile due to an unfortunate hardware
failure.
However, it's back and better than ever, with new hardware and hosting. We're
back!
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by challenges that have come up in the
design and implementation of the 3D client and 3D world server. At the
end of the day, fundamentally we are trying to solve a very complex
problem. Complex problems require complex solutions.
- Pete
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to a particular code generator. Something
to think about.
This is all still very much a work in progress. Comments welcome.
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part; My roommates and I are making an
MMO, after all)...
So if I fit in here, or if I can help in betatesting, all the better.
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of the larger discussion of how time fits into the VOS model.
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. Time coordination among peers is nasty; I'd
suggest the site hosting the sector vobject should act as a time
coordinator (read server above) then.
Yes, that's just what I was thinking.
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animations.
I realize that esoteric input devices are neither common nor readily
available, and are not likely to be for some time, but it would be nice
to have support for such built into VOS.
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solvable, but still hard.
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that I'm paying attention, even if I can't weigh in on every thread.
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that advanced in real time (and thus would require a time
synchronization protocol) b) a virtual clock controlled in software
that is advanced explicitly c) the time is defined in terms of a linear
time transform applied to the output of another clock vobject.
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.
The basic model of the child list as associative list would be
unaffected. Also, this is extremely easy to implement, since the code
for parsing and following paths is more or less the same either way.
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think it
would be nice for VOS to support widgets such as buttons and pulldown menus,
it's certainly not a priority)
-Steve
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tables, we're talking
about Vobject structures and a more object-oriented rather than
relational paradigm).
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Another possible mechanism would be to use the vobject source to look up
the correct context to use. In either case context would presumably be
implemented as a vobject with a child property for each parameter.
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Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all, and good wishes for the new
year!
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as a deliberately open-ended design,
VOS has more potential for long term evolution.
That said, this does put a kink in some of our plans. I'll follow up
with another email about what I've been working on these past few weeks.
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have plans on doing it.
snarkWell, seeing as how they aren't making any money off of Second
Life as it is, it would be hard to hurt their business any more than
they're already doing themselves./snark
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people from attending.
Are there other modeling tools that it would be nice to support?
Sketchup would be a good one I think, it's really easy to use and is
becoming popular and well known through its association with Google Earth.
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the playback speed to be faster or slower.
If an animation is particularly lengthy, it shall be possible
to begin playing back an animation before it has been
completely downloaded.
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Yea, that needs to be in there. See, that's why I wanted you guys to
look at it :-)
On Wed, Jan 24, 2007 at 01:00:28PM +0100, Mats wrote:
What about physics?
Siterer Peter Amstutz [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I've started writing up a requirements document for VOS
post them to
the list.
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, and what lesser hardwares
could we support with relatively little tweaking?
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I've started writing up a requirements document for VOS.
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On Wed, Jan 24, 2007 at 11:22:48AM -0700, S Mattison wrote:
On 1/22/07, Peter Amstutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Alternately we could also have a blob type for this case.
I'm a big fan of the Blob type. I do a lot of SQL database work. ;)
Well, the goal is to avoid blobs as much
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Peter,
I seem to have missed the original message about the requirements document,
and can't find it on the mailing list archives, either... Mind sending the
information out again?
Ken
Peter Amstutz wrote:
Yea, that needs to be in there. See, that's why I wanted you guys
to look
. VOS from the beginning was
intended to be implemented using an existing 3D engine, so we don't care
so much about rendering specifics because someone else has already done
the work of taking a scene and optimizing it on the fly...
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of
deciding whether to go out and fetch the updated value. The reasoning
being, beyond a certain point the extra round trip time to fetch the
value is greatly outweighed by the cost of sending out data that may not
be used at all.
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of the space is
nonuniform - see third slide in:
http://www.web3d.org/x3d-earth/workshop2006/contributions/PingInteractiveGeoSimFidelityScalability.pdf
[snip...]
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