[WSG] Structuring CSS

2008-06-09 Thread James Jeffery
Lets have it. How are you guys structuring your CSS files? I have been having a think about this over the last few days. My research attempts have failed because most the articles i came across were outdated - so i tend not to trust them. One method i thought about (not sure if it's been coined)

Re: [WSG] Structuring CSS

2008-06-09 Thread Peter Ottery
re - How are you guys structuring your CSS files? for me, multiple css files for different parts of the page is harder to manage. I'm pretty old school keep everything within the 1 css file (within reason). this also means 1 http request which is good. exceptions are if you had a massive admin

Re: [WSG] Structuring CSS

2008-06-09 Thread Matt Fellows
Now that's a question to spark debate! Without leaning one way or another there are a number of different approaches you might try. Have you considered CSS frameworks such as Blueprint CSS[1] or the 960 grid system[2]? These approaches help to standardize your CSS by providing the basic page

Re: [WSG] Breadcrumbs showing organisational structure and usability

2008-06-09 Thread Jason Ray
Lib, I don't think you should leave the list over one person's comments if you are benefiting from other people's feedback. Libraries probably shouldn't fit under individual departments, but under the organisation's umbrella - I am particularly thinking of university libraries. If you are a

Re: [WSG] Marking up multiple form inputs

2008-06-09 Thread Jason Ray
Tables shouldn't be used for layouts, use style sheets instead, but they should be used for *information* which lends itself well to a table. If you are trying to display data in an organised format, which requires columns and rows, then use a table. Jason On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 11:37 AM, Chris

RE: [WSG] Marking up multiple form inputs

2008-06-09 Thread Chris Pearce
Hi, I realise tables shouldn't be used for layouts. Doesn't this information suit a table structure though (tabular data)? If not what would you use? Cheers [cid:image001.gif@01C8CAF6.0206E130]http://www.bluearcgroup.com/ solutions for a digital world

Re: [WSG] Marking up multiple form inputs

2008-06-09 Thread Jason Ray
As far as I can tell without knowing the specifics of the data, it looks like information that suits a table - just as you have displayed it. I was confused by your question starting with 'Would the following layout...' so I thought it was worth pointing out that layouts shouldn't be done using

Re: [WSG] Help setting current menu state on level2 menus

2008-06-09 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Susie Gardner-Brown wrote: But when the link has sub-menu items under it, all of those get the same treatment! Because the styles are applied to the list item. Can anyone think of a way to do this that would not affect the sub-menu? http://crunchie.tedi.uq.edu.au/trials/UCTLC/stLucia.html

[WSG] Should we design for 800x600 screens?

2008-06-09 Thread IceKat
Hi, I have a question I'd like to poll people about. Should we still bother designing to fit in with 800x600 screen resolutions or is it Ok to just design for 1024x768 and not worry about smaller resolutions? I know applications like Google Desktop make it more complicated and am interested

Re: [WSG] Should we design for 800x600 screens?

2008-06-09 Thread Rochester oliveira
make it fluid and everyone will be happy :) doesn't matter if we have 300px or 1280px, your website should (ok, with some restrictions, like 800-1024) adapt to user's needs 2008/6/10 IceKat [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, I have a question I'd like to poll people about. Should we still bother

Re: [WSG] Should we design for 800x600 screens?

2008-06-09 Thread Jermayn Parker
Rochester oliveira wrote: adapt to user's needs That is the key. If the users are technical you would not bother designing for 800 x 600 screens if the users are internal and they work on smaller screens, you would. *** List

Re: [WSG] Should we design for 800x600 screens?

2008-06-09 Thread Jeff Weales
Depends on the targeted audience and what designer I work with. Sometimes we design for 800x600 while other times the designer we create for 1024 and we have no choice but to use those dimensions whether we like it or not. IceKat wrote: Hi, I have a question I'd like to poll people about.

Re: [WSG] Help setting current menu state on level2 menus

2008-06-09 Thread Susie Gardner-Brown
Hi Georg Thanks for that. I'll have a go. You always seem to help me - thank you so much!! Re the font-resizing - sigh!! For a lot of the websites we develop at the university here, we're supposed to use this awful template, which includes the lefthand menu like this. In the template it's all in

Re: [WSG] Marking up multiple form inputs

2008-06-09 Thread sundar
sorry again, I can send you some samples if you wish s. On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 9:52 AM, sundar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Don't use table for this particular layout, keep the markup like label, input input Remove the table, put a fieldset around then apply float to label input and

Re: [WSG] Should we design for 800x600 screens?

2008-06-09 Thread Mark Harris
Jermayn Parker wrote: If the users are technical you would not bother designing for 800 x 600 screens Hmmm? I wonder if that's strictly true, given the surge in ultralite notebooks like the ASUS EEEPC. My new one ( a 900 - c'mon NZCouriers, just deliver the thing!) will have 1024 as a

Re: [WSG] Marking up multiple form inputs

2008-06-09 Thread sundar
Hi, Don't use table for this particular layout, keep the markup like label, input input Remove the table, put a fieldset around then apply float to label input and set width which matches your layout. Also I can't sent you some samples if you wish Thanks Sundar On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 7:07

Re: [WSG] Should we design for 800x600 screens?

2008-06-09 Thread Matt Fellows
It probably has been asked before - but the answer is likely to change with time (as monitor sizes vary or normalize) so the question is still as relevant as ever. If you were to ask the question to Jakob Nielson, he would say optimize for 1024x768 [1] and provide a liquid content area. But you

RE: [WSG] Help setting current menu state on level2 menus

2008-06-09 Thread Thierry Koblentz
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susie Gardner-Brown Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 6:45 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Help setting current menu state on level2 menus Hi there I've been using the 456bereastreet.com

Re: [WSG] Help setting current menu state on level2 menus

2008-06-09 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Susie Gardner-Brown wrote: Re the font-resizing - sigh!! For a lot of the websites we develop at the university here, we're supposed to use this awful template, which includes the lefthand menu like this. In the template it's all in tables!! I got the way of doing this menu from

RE: [WSG] Structuring CSS

2008-06-09 Thread Jens-Uwe Korff
How are you guys structuring your CSS files? I am currently in the process of restructuring our CSS. The approach I'm looking into is as follows: 1) use Eric Meyer's reset CSS to create a common base 2) use Blueprint's grid.css for the grid layer 3) use a component CSS layer to a) give

RE: [WSG] Structuring CSS

2008-06-09 Thread Web Marketing Experts - Nick Bell
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Re: [WSG] Structuring CSS

2008-06-09 Thread Anton Babushkin
The way I structure my CSS is very much like you said - taking the Software Development principles of Object-Oriented programming, and is pretty much inline with what everyone else has said. I generally break my CSS up to the following categories: - reset.css : Reset all browser defaults.

Re: [WSG] Should we design for 800x600 screens?

2008-06-09 Thread Anton Babushkin
I would say Absolutely, absoutely and absolutely! My reasoning for this is simple: what about the rest of those users who *don't browse the internet with the browser in full screen*? As a matter of fact I'm doing it right now, so thank god GMail scales gracefully, or I probably wouldn't use it!

Re: [WSG] Structuring CSS

2008-06-09 Thread Peter Ottery
Anton wrote... - In regards to I'm guessing this sort of structuring comes at a cost because a number of requests need to be made to the server. this is generally untrue. In principle this is exactly how download accelerators work. They split a large file into smaller segments and sent

Re: [WSG] Should we design for 800x600 screens?

2008-06-09 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
By subject... Should we design for 800x600 screens Design for? Not necessarily. Accommodate? Yes. Cheers. Mike Cherim http://green-beast.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe:

RE: [WSG] Should we design for 800x600 screens?

2008-06-09 Thread Web Marketing Experts - Nick Bell
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