Re: [Xastir] New Installation Notes / HowTo for Ubuntu 8.10 & 8.04

2008-11-17 Thread Ray Wells
roger g6ckr wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-11-17 at 18:36 +, roger g6ckr wrote:
>
>
>   
>> OK that makes me feel a bit better.
>> I probably did nothing wrong then ;-)
>> I also noticed the note re festival which I will try in a while.
>> I'll still look at a clean 8.10 test but the time scale can slip to a
>> more convenient point.
>> Roger G6CKR
>>
>> 
> RE Festival the help in  xastir 1.9.5 actually states.
> "
> The normal command for this is 
> "festival_server &".  If you use the "festival --server" option instead
> (old method), you may run into problems with connections getting
> rejected by the server."
>
> Although my version
> "festival: Festival Speech Synthesis System: 1.96:beta July 2004"
> gives 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ festival_server &
> [1] 13527
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ bash: festival_server: command not found
> And speech fails
>
> So it is worth noting the "festival --server &"  method in the HowTo as
> my version is the Ubuntu installed one.
>
> I just have the work out how to make it use my other sound card or fit a
> second set of speakers. Which I could do as I now use the SignaLink  USB
> so don't need the second PCI sound card for fldigi.
>
> Roger G6CKR
>
>
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festival_server & also fails on Debian Etch but festival --server works

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Re: [Xastir] New Installation Notes / HowTo for Ubuntu 8.10 & 8.04

2008-11-17 Thread Lee Bengston
I second that.  The correct dev package is indeed libmagick9-dev, and
that's what's documented in the installation notes for Ubuntu
6.10/7.04 and 8.04/8.10 - nothing has changed there in several Ubuntu
releases.

Lee - K5DAT


On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 4:40 PM, Bob Nielsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Err--did you mean libmagick++9-dev?  That is the C++ version.  The
> one you really need is libmagick9-dev.
>
> Bob, N7XY
>
> On Nov 17, 2008, at 12:54 PM, David wrote:
>
>> Hi All...so much for my big mouthjust had a look in my 8.04
>> install
>> and found that imagemagick++9-dev was not installed.have now
>> installed it and did a ./update-xastir from the CVS and all running
>> 100%
>>
>> in the 6.10 install notes it shows imagemagick9-dev...note the 8.04
>> filename has imagemagick++9-dev...could be the same for 8.10 if its
>> there
>>
>> now i had better shut up HI HI
>>
>> 73 David VK4BDJ
>>
>>
>> David wrote:
>>> Hi Allre Imagemagick and Ubuntu 8.10
>>> the -dev file is not in the repository.either pinch it from
>>> 8.04 or
>>> d/l the complete Imagemagick file and compile from the latest source
>>>
>>> 73 David VK4BDJ
>>>
>>>
>>> Lee Bengston wrote:
>>>
 Based on some earlier posts, it sounds like there are some issues
 with
 GraphicsMagick, so yes, I recommend removing GraphicMagick via
 Synaptic and installing Imagemagick.

 See http://xastir.org/wiki/index.php/HowTo:Ubuntu_8.10 for a list of
 packages that includes Imagemagick to install via Synaptic.  I would
 install them prior to executing the configure, make and make install
 portions of the commands Rick gave you below.

 Regards,
 Lee - K5DAT


 On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Tyler Parsons
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> Thanks for the information, particularly on the specific commands..
> Linux is completely new to me. Do I need ImageMagic (sp) rather
> than
> GraphicsMagic?
>
> No, I started reading from the bottom up. That'll teach me.
>
> Tyler WB7DDL
>
>
>
> Rick Green wrote:
>
>
>> On Sun, 16 Nov 2008, Tyler Parsons wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> I had a working Xastir version 1.9.1 under Ubuntu 8.04. I
>>> upgraded to
>>> 8.10 and all the "geo" links stopped working - Tiger maps,
>>> Terraserver, etc.
>>>
>>> I reloaded a completely fresh 8.10, downloaded Xastir 1.9.1 via
>>> synaptic, and still got the same problem with the on-line
>>> maps. There is
>>> a note in the Ubuntu Forums that this seems to be a problem.
>>> Something
>>> about wget and libcurl not being found.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>   I just went thru this in the last 48 hours.  Did you read the
>> previous
>> messages in this thread?
>>
>> to recap, here's the Ubuntu 8.10 quickstart:
>>
>> (as user)
>>sudo apt-get remove xastir
>>sudo apt-get build-dep xastir
>>cd
>>sed s:/usr/share:/usr/local/share:g .xastir/config/xastir.cnf
>>wget http://downloads.sourceforge.net/xastir/
>> xastir-1.9.4.tar.gz
>>tar -xzvf xastir/xastir-1.9.4.tar.gz
>>cd xastir-1.9.4
>>./configure CPPFLAGS="-I/usr/include/geotiff"
>>make
>>sudo make install
>>cd ..
>>
>>That'll give you 1.9.4, the current stable release.
>>
>>For the nitty-gritty details and explanation, and also if
>> you wish to go
>> right to the bleeding edge with CVS, see:
>>
>> http://xastir.org/wiki/index.php/HowTo:Ubuntu_8.10
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Xastir] New Installation Notes / HowTo for Ubuntu 8.10 & 8.04

2008-11-17 Thread roger g6ckr
On Mon, 2008-11-17 at 18:36 +, roger g6ckr wrote:


> OK that makes me feel a bit better.
> I probably did nothing wrong then ;-)
> I also noticed the note re festival which I will try in a while.
> I'll still look at a clean 8.10 test but the time scale can slip to a
> more convenient point.
> Roger G6CKR
> 
RE Festival the help in  xastir 1.9.5 actually states.
"
The normal command for this is 
"festival_server &".  If you use the "festival --server" option instead
(old method), you may run into problems with connections getting
rejected by the server."

Although my version
"festival: Festival Speech Synthesis System: 1.96:beta July 2004"
gives 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ festival_server &
[1] 13527
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ bash: festival_server: command not found
And speech fails

So it is worth noting the "festival --server &"  method in the HowTo as
my version is the Ubuntu installed one.

I just have the work out how to make it use my other sound card or fit a
second set of speakers. Which I could do as I now use the SignaLink  USB
so don't need the second PCI sound card for fldigi.

Roger G6CKR



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Re: [Xastir] New Installation Notes / HowTo for Ubuntu 8.10 & 8.04

2008-11-17 Thread roger g6ckr
On Mon, 2008-11-17 at 14:40 -0800, Bob Nielsen wrote:
> Err--did you mean libmagick++9-dev?  That is the C++ version.  The  
> one you really need is libmagick9-dev.
Thanks for the correction that was installed already  ++ now removed and
the need for a recompile removed as well.
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Re: [Xastir] New Installation Notes / HowTo for Ubuntu 8.10 & 8.04

2008-11-17 Thread Lee Bengston
Good point, Steve.  Yes, I had tunnel vision thinking GraphicsMagick
had been installed for Xastir's use, but if it was already installed
prior attempts to install Xastir, then only the dev portion should be
removed ' cuz you never know what else might be dependent on it.

Lee - K5DAT


On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 1:59 PM, Steve/WM5Z <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Don't remove all of graphicsMagick, just the Devel file. Otherwise you
> will break things. Removing the GraphicksMagick-devel will keep the
> configure from seeing it. Now you can install Imagemagick and the
> Imagemagick-devel file to go with it, and everything will be good.
>
>
> Steve/WM5Z
>
> Lee Bengston wrote:
>> Based on some earlier posts, it sounds like there are some issues with
>> GraphicsMagick, so yes, I recommend removing GraphicMagick via
>> Synaptic and installing Imagemagick.
>>
>> See http://xastir.org/wiki/index.php/HowTo:Ubuntu_8.10 for a list of
>> packages that includes Imagemagick to install via Synaptic.  I would
>> install them prior to executing the configure, make and make install
>> portions of the commands Rick gave you below.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Lee - K5DAT
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Tyler Parsons
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the information, particularly on the specific commands..
>>> Linux is completely new to me. Do I need ImageMagic (sp) rather than
>>> GraphicsMagic?
>>>
>>> No, I started reading from the bottom up. That'll teach me.
>>>
>>> Tyler WB7DDL
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rick Green wrote:
>>>
 On Sun, 16 Nov 2008, Tyler Parsons wrote:



> I had a working Xastir version 1.9.1 under Ubuntu 8.04. I upgraded to
> 8.10 and all the "geo" links stopped working - Tiger maps, Terraserver, 
> etc.
>
> I reloaded a completely fresh 8.10, downloaded Xastir 1.9.1 via
> synaptic, and still got the same problem with the on-line maps. There is
> a note in the Ubuntu Forums that this seems to be a problem. Something
> about wget and libcurl not being found.
>
>
>
   I just went thru this in the last 48 hours.  Did you read the previous
 messages in this thread?

 to recap, here's the Ubuntu 8.10 quickstart:

 (as user)
sudo apt-get remove xastir
sudo apt-get build-dep xastir
cd
sed s:/usr/share:/usr/local/share:g .xastir/config/xastir.cnf
wget http://downloads.sourceforge.net/xastir/xastir-1.9.4.tar.gz
tar -xzvf xastir/xastir-1.9.4.tar.gz
cd xastir-1.9.4
./configure CPPFLAGS="-I/usr/include/geotiff"
make
sudo make install
cd ..

That'll give you 1.9.4, the current stable release.

For the nitty-gritty details and explanation, and also if you wish to go
 right to the bleeding edge with CVS, see:

 http://xastir.org/wiki/index.php/HowTo:Ubuntu_8.10



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Re: [Xastir] New Installation Notes / HowTo for Ubuntu 8.10 & 8.04

2008-11-17 Thread Lee Bengston
I've found the dev package for imagemagick and installed it twice in
two separate virtual machines via Synaptic in Xubuntu 8.10.  The name
of the package is libmagick9-dev.  There was no problem with Synaptic
finding it in the repo.

Lee - K5DAT


On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 1:23 PM, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Allre Imagemagick and Ubuntu 8.10
> the -dev file is not in the repository.either pinch it from 8.04 or
> d/l the complete Imagemagick file and compile from the latest source
>
> 73 David VK4BDJ
>
>
> Lee Bengston wrote:
>> Based on some earlier posts, it sounds like there are some issues with
>> GraphicsMagick, so yes, I recommend removing GraphicMagick via
>> Synaptic and installing Imagemagick.
>>
>> See http://xastir.org/wiki/index.php/HowTo:Ubuntu_8.10 for a list of
>> packages that includes Imagemagick to install via Synaptic.  I would
>> install them prior to executing the configure, make and make install
>> portions of the commands Rick gave you below.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Lee - K5DAT
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Tyler Parsons
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the information, particularly on the specific commands..
>>> Linux is completely new to me. Do I need ImageMagic (sp) rather than
>>> GraphicsMagic?
>>>
>>> No, I started reading from the bottom up. That'll teach me.
>>>
>>> Tyler WB7DDL
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rick Green wrote:
>>>
 On Sun, 16 Nov 2008, Tyler Parsons wrote:



> I had a working Xastir version 1.9.1 under Ubuntu 8.04. I upgraded to
> 8.10 and all the "geo" links stopped working - Tiger maps, Terraserver, 
> etc.
>
> I reloaded a completely fresh 8.10, downloaded Xastir 1.9.1 via
> synaptic, and still got the same problem with the on-line maps. There is
> a note in the Ubuntu Forums that this seems to be a problem. Something
> about wget and libcurl not being found.
>
>
>
   I just went thru this in the last 48 hours.  Did you read the previous
 messages in this thread?

 to recap, here's the Ubuntu 8.10 quickstart:

 (as user)
sudo apt-get remove xastir
sudo apt-get build-dep xastir
cd
sed s:/usr/share:/usr/local/share:g .xastir/config/xastir.cnf
wget http://downloads.sourceforge.net/xastir/xastir-1.9.4.tar.gz
tar -xzvf xastir/xastir-1.9.4.tar.gz
cd xastir-1.9.4
./configure CPPFLAGS="-I/usr/include/geotiff"
make
sudo make install
cd ..

That'll give you 1.9.4, the current stable release.

For the nitty-gritty details and explanation, and also if you wish to go
 right to the bleeding edge with CVS, see:

 http://xastir.org/wiki/index.php/HowTo:Ubuntu_8.10



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Re: [Xastir] New Installation Notes / HowTo for Ubuntu 8.10 & 8.04

2008-11-17 Thread Bob Nielsen
Err--did you mean libmagick++9-dev?  That is the C++ version.  The  
one you really need is libmagick9-dev.

Bob, N7XY

On Nov 17, 2008, at 12:54 PM, David wrote:

> Hi All...so much for my big mouthjust had a look in my 8.04  
> install
> and found that imagemagick++9-dev was not installed.have now
> installed it and did a ./update-xastir from the CVS and all running  
> 100%
>
> in the 6.10 install notes it shows imagemagick9-dev...note the 8.04
> filename has imagemagick++9-dev...could be the same for 8.10 if its  
> there
>
> now i had better shut up HI HI
>
> 73 David VK4BDJ
>
>
> David wrote:
>> Hi Allre Imagemagick and Ubuntu 8.10
>> the -dev file is not in the repository.either pinch it from  
>> 8.04 or
>> d/l the complete Imagemagick file and compile from the latest source
>>
>> 73 David VK4BDJ
>>
>>
>> Lee Bengston wrote:
>>
>>> Based on some earlier posts, it sounds like there are some issues  
>>> with
>>> GraphicsMagick, so yes, I recommend removing GraphicMagick via
>>> Synaptic and installing Imagemagick.
>>>
>>> See http://xastir.org/wiki/index.php/HowTo:Ubuntu_8.10 for a list of
>>> packages that includes Imagemagick to install via Synaptic.  I would
>>> install them prior to executing the configure, make and make install
>>> portions of the commands Rick gave you below.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Lee - K5DAT
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Tyler Parsons
>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
 Thanks for the information, particularly on the specific commands..
 Linux is completely new to me. Do I need ImageMagic (sp) rather  
 than
 GraphicsMagic?

 No, I started reading from the bottom up. That'll teach me.

 Tyler WB7DDL



 Rick Green wrote:


> On Sun, 16 Nov 2008, Tyler Parsons wrote:
>
>
>
>
>> I had a working Xastir version 1.9.1 under Ubuntu 8.04. I  
>> upgraded to
>> 8.10 and all the "geo" links stopped working - Tiger maps,  
>> Terraserver, etc.
>>
>> I reloaded a completely fresh 8.10, downloaded Xastir 1.9.1 via
>> synaptic, and still got the same problem with the on-line  
>> maps. There is
>> a note in the Ubuntu Forums that this seems to be a problem.  
>> Something
>> about wget and libcurl not being found.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>   I just went thru this in the last 48 hours.  Did you read the  
> previous
> messages in this thread?
>
> to recap, here's the Ubuntu 8.10 quickstart:
>
> (as user)
>sudo apt-get remove xastir
>sudo apt-get build-dep xastir
>cd
>sed s:/usr/share:/usr/local/share:g .xastir/config/xastir.cnf
>wget http://downloads.sourceforge.net/xastir/ 
> xastir-1.9.4.tar.gz
>tar -xzvf xastir/xastir-1.9.4.tar.gz
>cd xastir-1.9.4
>./configure CPPFLAGS="-I/usr/include/geotiff"
>make
>sudo make install
>cd ..
>
>That'll give you 1.9.4, the current stable release.
>
>For the nitty-gritty details and explanation, and also if  
> you wish to go
> right to the bleeding edge with CVS, see:
>
> http://xastir.org/wiki/index.php/HowTo:Ubuntu_8.10
>
>
>
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Re: [Xastir] New Installation Notes / HowTo for Ubuntu 8.10 & 8.04

2008-11-17 Thread roger g6ckr
On Tue, 2008-11-18 at 06:54 +1000, David wrote:
> Hi All...so much for my big mouthjust had a look in my 8.04 install 
> and found that imagemagick++9-dev was not installed.have now 
> installed it and did a ./update-xastir from the CVS and all running 100%
> 
> in the 6.10 install notes it shows imagemagick9-dev...note the 8.04 
> filename has imagemagick++9-dev...could be the same for 8.10 if its there
Yes it is I just looked.
> now i had better shut up HI HI
OK but the info got out in the end and quicker than had you said nothing.
I did not have it installed either.
Roger


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Re: [Xastir] New Installation Notes / HowTo for Ubuntu 8.10 & 8.04

2008-11-17 Thread David
Hi All...so much for my big mouthjust had a look in my 8.04 install 
and found that imagemagick++9-dev was not installed.have now 
installed it and did a ./update-xastir from the CVS and all running 100%

in the 6.10 install notes it shows imagemagick9-dev...note the 8.04 
filename has imagemagick++9-dev...could be the same for 8.10 if its there

now i had better shut up HI HI

73 David VK4BDJ


David wrote:
> Hi Allre Imagemagick and Ubuntu 8.10
> the -dev file is not in the repository.either pinch it from 8.04 or 
> d/l the complete Imagemagick file and compile from the latest source
>
> 73 David VK4BDJ
>
>
> Lee Bengston wrote:
>   
>> Based on some earlier posts, it sounds like there are some issues with
>> GraphicsMagick, so yes, I recommend removing GraphicMagick via
>> Synaptic and installing Imagemagick.
>>
>> See http://xastir.org/wiki/index.php/HowTo:Ubuntu_8.10 for a list of
>> packages that includes Imagemagick to install via Synaptic.  I would
>> install them prior to executing the configure, make and make install
>> portions of the commands Rick gave you below.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Lee - K5DAT
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Tyler Parsons
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>   
>> 
>>> Thanks for the information, particularly on the specific commands..
>>> Linux is completely new to me. Do I need ImageMagic (sp) rather than
>>> GraphicsMagic?
>>>
>>> No, I started reading from the bottom up. That'll teach me.
>>>
>>> Tyler WB7DDL
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rick Green wrote:
>>> 
>>>   
 On Sun, 16 Nov 2008, Tyler Parsons wrote:


   
 
> I had a working Xastir version 1.9.1 under Ubuntu 8.04. I upgraded to
> 8.10 and all the "geo" links stopped working - Tiger maps, Terraserver, 
> etc.
>
> I reloaded a completely fresh 8.10, downloaded Xastir 1.9.1 via
> synaptic, and still got the same problem with the on-line maps. There is
> a note in the Ubuntu Forums that this seems to be a problem. Something
> about wget and libcurl not being found.
>
>
> 
>   
   I just went thru this in the last 48 hours.  Did you read the previous
 messages in this thread?

 to recap, here's the Ubuntu 8.10 quickstart:

 (as user)
sudo apt-get remove xastir
sudo apt-get build-dep xastir
cd
sed s:/usr/share:/usr/local/share:g .xastir/config/xastir.cnf
wget http://downloads.sourceforge.net/xastir/xastir-1.9.4.tar.gz
tar -xzvf xastir/xastir-1.9.4.tar.gz
cd xastir-1.9.4
./configure CPPFLAGS="-I/usr/include/geotiff"
make
sudo make install
cd ..

That'll give you 1.9.4, the current stable release.

For the nitty-gritty details and explanation, and also if you wish to go
 right to the bleeding edge with CVS, see:

 http://xastir.org/wiki/index.php/HowTo:Ubuntu_8.10


   
 
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Re: [Xastir] New Installation Notes / HowTo for Ubuntu 8.10 & 8.04

2008-11-17 Thread Steve/WM5Z
Don't remove all of graphicsMagick, just the Devel file. Otherwise you 
will break things. Removing the GraphicksMagick-devel will keep the 
configure from seeing it. Now you can install Imagemagick and the 
Imagemagick-devel file to go with it, and everything will be good.


Steve/WM5Z

Lee Bengston wrote:
> Based on some earlier posts, it sounds like there are some issues with
> GraphicsMagick, so yes, I recommend removing GraphicMagick via
> Synaptic and installing Imagemagick.
>
> See http://xastir.org/wiki/index.php/HowTo:Ubuntu_8.10 for a list of
> packages that includes Imagemagick to install via Synaptic.  I would
> install them prior to executing the configure, make and make install
> portions of the commands Rick gave you below.
>
> Regards,
> Lee - K5DAT
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Tyler Parsons
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> Thanks for the information, particularly on the specific commands..
>> Linux is completely new to me. Do I need ImageMagic (sp) rather than
>> GraphicsMagic?
>>
>> No, I started reading from the bottom up. That'll teach me.
>>
>> Tyler WB7DDL
>>
>>
>>
>> Rick Green wrote:
>> 
>>> On Sun, 16 Nov 2008, Tyler Parsons wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>   
 I had a working Xastir version 1.9.1 under Ubuntu 8.04. I upgraded to
 8.10 and all the "geo" links stopped working - Tiger maps, Terraserver, 
 etc.

 I reloaded a completely fresh 8.10, downloaded Xastir 1.9.1 via
 synaptic, and still got the same problem with the on-line maps. There is
 a note in the Ubuntu Forums that this seems to be a problem. Something
 about wget and libcurl not being found.


 
>>>   I just went thru this in the last 48 hours.  Did you read the previous
>>> messages in this thread?
>>>
>>> to recap, here's the Ubuntu 8.10 quickstart:
>>>
>>> (as user)
>>>sudo apt-get remove xastir
>>>sudo apt-get build-dep xastir
>>>cd
>>>sed s:/usr/share:/usr/local/share:g .xastir/config/xastir.cnf
>>>wget http://downloads.sourceforge.net/xastir/xastir-1.9.4.tar.gz
>>>tar -xzvf xastir/xastir-1.9.4.tar.gz
>>>cd xastir-1.9.4
>>>./configure CPPFLAGS="-I/usr/include/geotiff"
>>>make
>>>sudo make install
>>>cd ..
>>>
>>>That'll give you 1.9.4, the current stable release.
>>>
>>>For the nitty-gritty details and explanation, and also if you wish to go
>>> right to the bleeding edge with CVS, see:
>>>
>>> http://xastir.org/wiki/index.php/HowTo:Ubuntu_8.10
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Xastir] New Installation Notes / HowTo for Ubuntu 8.10 & 8.04

2008-11-17 Thread David
Hi Allre Imagemagick and Ubuntu 8.10
the -dev file is not in the repository.either pinch it from 8.04 or 
d/l the complete Imagemagick file and compile from the latest source

73 David VK4BDJ


Lee Bengston wrote:
> Based on some earlier posts, it sounds like there are some issues with
> GraphicsMagick, so yes, I recommend removing GraphicMagick via
> Synaptic and installing Imagemagick.
>
> See http://xastir.org/wiki/index.php/HowTo:Ubuntu_8.10 for a list of
> packages that includes Imagemagick to install via Synaptic.  I would
> install them prior to executing the configure, make and make install
> portions of the commands Rick gave you below.
>
> Regards,
> Lee - K5DAT
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Tyler Parsons
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> Thanks for the information, particularly on the specific commands..
>> Linux is completely new to me. Do I need ImageMagic (sp) rather than
>> GraphicsMagic?
>>
>> No, I started reading from the bottom up. That'll teach me.
>>
>> Tyler WB7DDL
>>
>>
>>
>> Rick Green wrote:
>> 
>>> On Sun, 16 Nov 2008, Tyler Parsons wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>   
 I had a working Xastir version 1.9.1 under Ubuntu 8.04. I upgraded to
 8.10 and all the "geo" links stopped working - Tiger maps, Terraserver, 
 etc.

 I reloaded a completely fresh 8.10, downloaded Xastir 1.9.1 via
 synaptic, and still got the same problem with the on-line maps. There is
 a note in the Ubuntu Forums that this seems to be a problem. Something
 about wget and libcurl not being found.


 
>>>   I just went thru this in the last 48 hours.  Did you read the previous
>>> messages in this thread?
>>>
>>> to recap, here's the Ubuntu 8.10 quickstart:
>>>
>>> (as user)
>>>sudo apt-get remove xastir
>>>sudo apt-get build-dep xastir
>>>cd
>>>sed s:/usr/share:/usr/local/share:g .xastir/config/xastir.cnf
>>>wget http://downloads.sourceforge.net/xastir/xastir-1.9.4.tar.gz
>>>tar -xzvf xastir/xastir-1.9.4.tar.gz
>>>cd xastir-1.9.4
>>>./configure CPPFLAGS="-I/usr/include/geotiff"
>>>make
>>>sudo make install
>>>cd ..
>>>
>>>That'll give you 1.9.4, the current stable release.
>>>
>>>For the nitty-gritty details and explanation, and also if you wish to go
>>> right to the bleeding edge with CVS, see:
>>>
>>> http://xastir.org/wiki/index.php/HowTo:Ubuntu_8.10
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Xastir] New Installation Notes / HowTo for Ubuntu 8.10 & 8.04

2008-11-17 Thread roger g6ckr
On Sun, 2008-11-16 at 20:50 -0600, Lee Bengston wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 5:58 PM, roger g6ckr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Sun, 2008-11-16 at 23:48 +, roger g6ckr wrote:
> >> On Sun, 2008-11-16 at 17:15 -0600, Lee Bengston wrote:
> >> > On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Rick Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> > > On Sat, 15 Nov 2008, Lee Bengston wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> http://www.xastir.org/wiki/index.php/HowTo:Ubuntu_8.10
> >> > >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Ok, that's what had me confused about the map_tif.c error.  I thought
> >> > that you and Roger while getting that error had reported following the
> >> > older Ubuntu HowTo, which installs geotiff from source - so I didn't
> >> > realize that it had been installed from the repo.
> >> I have had so many attempts I may well have done it both ways ;-)
> >> But latterly I did the from source via ./get-maptools.sh part of the
> >> howto.
> >>
> >> Re map issue in earlier post it looks like a hiccup in the inf to geo
> >> conversion such that an east longitude gained a minus sign fortunately
> >> the map was sufficiently wide for it to show squashed rather than not at
> >> all.
> >>
> >> So I'm happy for now.
> >> Although it would be nice to manage a compile with out a load of
> >> warnings.
> >>
> >> My question regarding GCC 4.3 / 4.2 against 4.1 still needs an expert to
> >> pronounce on mainly in case it causes a problem for someone else.
> >>
> >> The question is asked because the line.
> >>
> >> libgeotiff will build correctly with the stock GCC 4.1 compiler that
> >> comes with Ubuntu.
> >>
> >> is in the 8.10 howto
> >>
> >> I'm fairly sure the GCC4.3 and most likely the 4.2 were installed during
> >> the upgrade from 8.04 and then 8.10.
> > ooops that should have read  upgrade to 8.04 and then to 8.10.
> >> I will get an iso of 8.10 and install it on virtulBox and see what are
> >> the defaults.
> >> It's time I tested a cable modem at work for more that a quick
> >> download ;-)
> >> Roger
> 
> I took the reference to the 4.1 version of gcc out of the HowTo for
> Ubuntu 8.10.  That was obviously a propagation from the older HowTo.
> I'm not an expert on compilers, but I don't think the versions matter
> here.  As best as I can remember, I have always seen a fair amount of
> warnings during compilation of either xastir itself or the map tools
> regardless of what linux distribution or version I was using.  I guess
> I just got used to it after a while.  Anyway, I am glad to hear things
> are working.
> 
> Lee - K5DAT
OK that makes me feel a bit better.
I probably did nothing wrong then ;-)
I also noticed the note re festival which I will try in a while.
I'll still look at a clean 8.10 test but the time scale can slip to a
more convenient point.
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Re: [Xastir] New Installation Notes / HowTo for Ubuntu 8.10 & 8.04

2008-11-17 Thread Lee Bengston
Based on some earlier posts, it sounds like there are some issues with
GraphicsMagick, so yes, I recommend removing GraphicMagick via
Synaptic and installing Imagemagick.

See http://xastir.org/wiki/index.php/HowTo:Ubuntu_8.10 for a list of
packages that includes Imagemagick to install via Synaptic.  I would
install them prior to executing the configure, make and make install
portions of the commands Rick gave you below.

Regards,
Lee - K5DAT


On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Tyler Parsons
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks for the information, particularly on the specific commands..
> Linux is completely new to me. Do I need ImageMagic (sp) rather than
> GraphicsMagic?
>
> No, I started reading from the bottom up. That'll teach me.
>
> Tyler WB7DDL
>
>
>
> Rick Green wrote:
>> On Sun, 16 Nov 2008, Tyler Parsons wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I had a working Xastir version 1.9.1 under Ubuntu 8.04. I upgraded to
>>> 8.10 and all the "geo" links stopped working - Tiger maps, Terraserver, etc.
>>>
>>> I reloaded a completely fresh 8.10, downloaded Xastir 1.9.1 via
>>> synaptic, and still got the same problem with the on-line maps. There is
>>> a note in the Ubuntu Forums that this seems to be a problem. Something
>>> about wget and libcurl not being found.
>>>
>>>
>>   I just went thru this in the last 48 hours.  Did you read the previous
>> messages in this thread?
>>
>> to recap, here's the Ubuntu 8.10 quickstart:
>>
>> (as user)
>>sudo apt-get remove xastir
>>sudo apt-get build-dep xastir
>>cd
>>sed s:/usr/share:/usr/local/share:g .xastir/config/xastir.cnf
>>wget http://downloads.sourceforge.net/xastir/xastir-1.9.4.tar.gz
>>tar -xzvf xastir/xastir-1.9.4.tar.gz
>>cd xastir-1.9.4
>>./configure CPPFLAGS="-I/usr/include/geotiff"
>>make
>>sudo make install
>>cd ..
>>
>>That'll give you 1.9.4, the current stable release.
>>
>>For the nitty-gritty details and explanation, and also if you wish to go
>> right to the bleeding edge with CVS, see:
>>
>> http://xastir.org/wiki/index.php/HowTo:Ubuntu_8.10
>>
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Re: [Xastir] New Installation Notes / HowTo for Ubuntu 8.10 & 8.04

2008-11-17 Thread Tyler Parsons
Thanks for the information, particularly on the specific commands.. 
Linux is completely new to me. Do I need ImageMagic (sp) rather than 
GraphicsMagic?

No, I started reading from the bottom up. That'll teach me.

Tyler WB7DDL



Rick Green wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Nov 2008, Tyler Parsons wrote:
>
>   
>> I had a working Xastir version 1.9.1 under Ubuntu 8.04. I upgraded to
>> 8.10 and all the "geo" links stopped working - Tiger maps, Terraserver, etc.
>>
>> I reloaded a completely fresh 8.10, downloaded Xastir 1.9.1 via
>> synaptic, and still got the same problem with the on-line maps. There is
>> a note in the Ubuntu Forums that this seems to be a problem. Something
>> about wget and libcurl not being found.
>>
>> 
>   I just went thru this in the last 48 hours.  Did you read the previous 
> messages in this thread?
>
> to recap, here's the Ubuntu 8.10 quickstart:
>
> (as user)
>sudo apt-get remove xastir
>sudo apt-get build-dep xastir
>cd
>sed s:/usr/share:/usr/local/share:g .xastir/config/xastir.cnf
>wget http://downloads.sourceforge.net/xastir/xastir-1.9.4.tar.gz
>tar -xzvf xastir/xastir-1.9.4.tar.gz
>cd xastir-1.9.4
>./configure CPPFLAGS="-I/usr/include/geotiff"
>make
>sudo make install
>cd ..
>
>That'll give you 1.9.4, the current stable release.
>
>For the nitty-gritty details and explanation, and also if you wish to go 
> right to the bleeding edge with CVS, see:
>
> http://xastir.org/wiki/index.php/HowTo:Ubuntu_8.10
>
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Re: [Xastir] New Installation Notes / HowTo for Ubuntu 8.10 & 8.04

2008-11-17 Thread Curt, WE7U
On Sun, 16 Nov 2008, Tyler Parsons wrote:

> I had a working Xastir version 1.9.1 under Ubuntu 8.04. I upgraded to
> 8.10 and all the "geo" links stopped working - Tiger maps, Terraserver, etc.
>
> I reloaded a completely fresh 8.10, downloaded Xastir 1.9.1 via
> synaptic, and still got the same problem with the on-line maps. There is
> a note in the Ubuntu Forums that this seems to be a problem. Something
> about wget and libcurl not being found.

The path to wget is compiled into Xastir if support for wget is
included at configure time.  On my OpenSuSE-11 system it's at
/usr/bin/wget".

Libcurl is a library, so same for it, except that the library must
be found instead of the executable.  See if you have something like
"libcurl.so.4" in /usr/lib or /usr/local/lib directories.  Also see
if the directory you found it in is listed in /etc/ld.so.conf.  If
not, add the directory there and run "ldconfig" as root.

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Re: [Xastir] New Installation Notes / HowTo for Ubuntu 8.10 & 8.04

2008-11-17 Thread Rick Green
On Sun, 16 Nov 2008, Tyler Parsons wrote:

> I had a working Xastir version 1.9.1 under Ubuntu 8.04. I upgraded to
> 8.10 and all the "geo" links stopped working - Tiger maps, Terraserver, etc.
>
> I reloaded a completely fresh 8.10, downloaded Xastir 1.9.1 via
> synaptic, and still got the same problem with the on-line maps. There is
> a note in the Ubuntu Forums that this seems to be a problem. Something
> about wget and libcurl not being found.
>
  I just went thru this in the last 48 hours.  Did you read the previous 
messages in this thread?

to recap, here's the Ubuntu 8.10 quickstart:

(as user)
   sudo apt-get remove xastir
   sudo apt-get build-dep xastir
   cd
   sed s:/usr/share:/usr/local/share:g .xastir/config/xastir.cnf
   wget http://downloads.sourceforge.net/xastir/xastir-1.9.4.tar.gz
   tar -xzvf xastir/xastir-1.9.4.tar.gz
   cd xastir-1.9.4
   ./configure CPPFLAGS="-I/usr/include/geotiff"
   make
   sudo make install
   cd ..

   That'll give you 1.9.4, the current stable release.

   For the nitty-gritty details and explanation, and also if you wish to go 
right to the bleeding edge with CVS, see:

http://xastir.org/wiki/index.php/HowTo:Ubuntu_8.10

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Re: [Xastir] New Installation Notes / HowTo for Ubuntu 8.10 & 8.04

2008-11-16 Thread Tyler Parsons
I had a working Xastir version 1.9.1 under Ubuntu 8.04. I upgraded to 
8.10 and all the "geo" links stopped working - Tiger maps, Terraserver, etc.

I reloaded a completely fresh 8.10, downloaded Xastir 1.9.1 via 
synaptic, and still got the same problem with the on-line maps. There is 
a note in the Ubuntu Forums that this seems to be a problem. Something 
about wget and libcurl not being found.

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Re: [Xastir] New Installation Notes / HowTo for Ubuntu 8.10 & 8.04

2008-11-16 Thread Lee Bengston
On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 5:58 PM, roger g6ckr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, 2008-11-16 at 23:48 +, roger g6ckr wrote:
>> On Sun, 2008-11-16 at 17:15 -0600, Lee Bengston wrote:
>> > On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Rick Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > > On Sat, 15 Nov 2008, Lee Bengston wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> http://www.xastir.org/wiki/index.php/HowTo:Ubuntu_8.10
>> > >>
>>
>> >
>> > Ok, that's what had me confused about the map_tif.c error.  I thought
>> > that you and Roger while getting that error had reported following the
>> > older Ubuntu HowTo, which installs geotiff from source - so I didn't
>> > realize that it had been installed from the repo.
>> I have had so many attempts I may well have done it both ways ;-)
>> But latterly I did the from source via ./get-maptools.sh part of the
>> howto.
>>
>> Re map issue in earlier post it looks like a hiccup in the inf to geo
>> conversion such that an east longitude gained a minus sign fortunately
>> the map was sufficiently wide for it to show squashed rather than not at
>> all.
>>
>> So I'm happy for now.
>> Although it would be nice to manage a compile with out a load of
>> warnings.
>>
>> My question regarding GCC 4.3 / 4.2 against 4.1 still needs an expert to
>> pronounce on mainly in case it causes a problem for someone else.
>>
>> The question is asked because the line.
>>
>> libgeotiff will build correctly with the stock GCC 4.1 compiler that
>> comes with Ubuntu.
>>
>> is in the 8.10 howto
>>
>> I'm fairly sure the GCC4.3 and most likely the 4.2 were installed during
>> the upgrade from 8.04 and then 8.10.
> ooops that should have read  upgrade to 8.04 and then to 8.10.
>> I will get an iso of 8.10 and install it on virtulBox and see what are
>> the defaults.
>> It's time I tested a cable modem at work for more that a quick
>> download ;-)
>> Roger

I took the reference to the 4.1 version of gcc out of the HowTo for
Ubuntu 8.10.  That was obviously a propagation from the older HowTo.
I'm not an expert on compilers, but I don't think the versions matter
here.  As best as I can remember, I have always seen a fair amount of
warnings during compilation of either xastir itself or the map tools
regardless of what linux distribution or version I was using.  I guess
I just got used to it after a while.  Anyway, I am glad to hear things
are working.

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Re: [Xastir] New Installation Notes / HowTo for Ubuntu 8.10 & 8.04

2008-11-16 Thread roger g6ckr
On Sun, 2008-11-16 at 23:48 +, roger g6ckr wrote:
> On Sun, 2008-11-16 at 17:15 -0600, Lee Bengston wrote:
> > On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Rick Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On Sat, 15 Nov 2008, Lee Bengston wrote:
> > >
> > >> http://www.xastir.org/wiki/index.php/HowTo:Ubuntu_8.10
> > >>
> 
> > 
> > Ok, that's what had me confused about the map_tif.c error.  I thought
> > that you and Roger while getting that error had reported following the
> > older Ubuntu HowTo, which installs geotiff from source - so I didn't
> > realize that it had been installed from the repo.
> I have had so many attempts I may well have done it both ways ;-)
> But latterly I did the from source via ./get-maptools.sh part of the
> howto.
> 
> Re map issue in earlier post it looks like a hiccup in the inf to geo
> conversion such that an east longitude gained a minus sign fortunately
> the map was sufficiently wide for it to show squashed rather than not at
> all.
> 
> So I'm happy for now.
> Although it would be nice to manage a compile with out a load of
> warnings.
> 
> My question regarding GCC 4.3 / 4.2 against 4.1 still needs an expert to
> pronounce on mainly in case it causes a problem for someone else.
>  
> The question is asked because the line.
>  
> libgeotiff will build correctly with the stock GCC 4.1 compiler that
> comes with Ubuntu.
> 
> is in the 8.10 howto
> 
> I'm fairly sure the GCC4.3 and most likely the 4.2 were installed during
> the upgrade from 8.04 and then 8.10.
ooops that should have read  upgrade to 8.04 and then to 8.10.
> I will get an iso of 8.10 and install it on virtulBox and see what are
> the defaults. 
> It's time I tested a cable modem at work for more that a quick
> download ;-)
> Roger
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Xastir] New Installation Notes / HowTo for Ubuntu 8.10 & 8.04

2008-11-16 Thread roger g6ckr
On Sun, 2008-11-16 at 17:15 -0600, Lee Bengston wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Rick Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Sat, 15 Nov 2008, Lee Bengston wrote:
> >
> >> http://www.xastir.org/wiki/index.php/HowTo:Ubuntu_8.10
> >>

> 
> Ok, that's what had me confused about the map_tif.c error.  I thought
> that you and Roger while getting that error had reported following the
> older Ubuntu HowTo, which installs geotiff from source - so I didn't
> realize that it had been installed from the repo.
I have had so many attempts I may well have done it both ways ;-)
But latterly I did the from source via ./get-maptools.sh part of the
howto.

Re map issue in earlier post it looks like a hiccup in the inf to geo
conversion such that an east longitude gained a minus sign fortunately
the map was sufficiently wide for to to show squashed rather than not at
all.

So I'm happy for now.
Although it would be nice to manage a compile with out a load of
warnings.

My question regarding GCC 4.3 / 4.2 against 4.1 still needs an expert to
pronounce on mainly in case it causes a problem for someone else.
 
Teh question is asked because the line.
 
libgeotiff will build correctly with the stock GCC 4.1 compiler that
comes with Ubuntu.

is in the 8.10 howto

I'm fairly sure the GCC4.3 and most likely the 4.2 were installed during
the upgrade from 8.04 and then 8.10.

I will get an iso of 8.10 and install it on virtulBox and see what are
the defaults. 
It's time I tested a cable modem at work for more that a quick
download ;-)
Roger
 




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Re: [Xastir] New Installation Notes / HowTo for Ubuntu 8.10 & 8.04

2008-11-16 Thread Lee Bengston
On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Rick Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Nov 2008, Lee Bengston wrote:
>
>> http://www.xastir.org/wiki/index.php/HowTo:Ubuntu_8.10
>>
>> Enjoy - hope this helps some folks out.
>>
>   Yes, thank you, it did indeed get me going!
>
> I wanted to keep it as simple as possible, yet give me a more up-to-date
> install than the distribution package.  I opted to compile from the latest
> stable tarball, using the distribution libraries if at all possible to
> minimize breakage in other applications.
>   I was getting 'undeclared variable' errors in map_tif.c during the make,
> and posting the error here elicited no responses, but your comment about
> Ubuntu's 'non-standard' installation of the geotiff library, and the
> configure workaround got me past that one.

Ok, that's what had me confused about the map_tif.c error.  I thought
that you and Roger while getting that error had reported following the
older Ubuntu HowTo, which installs geotiff from source - so I didn't
realize that it had been installed from the repo.

>   However, when I first launched xastir, it barfed on a missing file:
>
> XReadBitmapFile() failed: Bitmap not found?
> /usr/share/xastir/symbols/2x2.xbm
>
> ...thinking this may be a similar issue, I browsed until I found the file
> in /usr/local/share/...
>   I then deleted the .xastir directory under my home directory, so that
> xastir would build a new one upon launch.  Sure enough, it worked!
>
> So, this leaves me with a few questions/suggestions:
>
> 1) Maybe your wiki entry could add a comment about renaming or removing
> the .xastir subdirectory in the section about 'if you've already installed
> the distributed version'.

Yes, I have very little experience with installing/uninstalling Xastir
binaries.  I think I did it once when I first tried the program
something like 18 months ago.  It appears that removing the .xastir
directory from the home directory is also a cure for other negatives
that can happen after making signficant changes, so I don't see a
problem with advising people to do that in the wiki when changing from
a binary version to one compiled from source.

> 2) I don't want to start a pissing contest, but why the talk about
> 'non-standard' locations for library and application installs?  Ubuntu as
> well as Fedora and SuSE all claim to be 'FSB compliant' (or LSB compliant,
> some days I can't keep my acronyms straight).  Who's "right"?
>
>   Would it be possible to amend the configure script to search the Ubuntu
> install locations as well as the Fedora/Suse ones?  I would consider the
> current situation a bug, in that configure without the override did detect
> the presence of libgeotiff, but did not configure the compile for the
> correct location.  It would seem to me that it should configure for its
> actual location, or report it as not found.

I'm already a proponent of modifying the configure script to look in
/usr/include/geotiff simply because this issue affects Debian and all
of its descendants (including Ubuntu), which ought to be considered
widespread enough to justify it.  The last time I used SUSE, there was
no issue - the binary geotiff package(s) from the repo installed the
headers in the expected location.  I can't speak for Fedora - was not
aware of an issue with Fedora, but there are plenty of Fedora users on
this list, so we should be able to get clarification on that.  All of
that said, if a library like geotiff is installed from source with
headers in /usr/include, then I would think anyone creating a binary
package should design it to do the same or else they are asking for
problems.  Therefore I do understand why the Xastir developers are
reluctant to modify the configure script.

> ...and finally, I have a question that is more Debian/ubuntu related than
> xastir per se.  Somewhere, I heard mention of a script that would build a
> simple 'package' from a tarball-compiled application, so that the apt
> database can be aware of the files that were installed.  Would it be
> possible to add a target to the makefile like 'make debinstall' that would
> invoke such a script and perform the install in a way that would minimize
> potential future adverse interactions with distribution package installs
> and upgrades.

I'll have to leave that one for the developers.

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Re: [Xastir] New Installation Notes / HowTo for Ubuntu 8.10 & 8.04

2008-11-16 Thread roger g6ckr
On Sun, 2008-11-16 at 16:54 -0500, Rick Green wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Nov 2008, Lee Bengston wrote:
> 
> > http://www.xastir.org/wiki/index.php/HowTo:Ubuntu_8.10
> >

> ...thinking this may be a similar issue, I browsed until I found the file 
> in /usr/local/share/...
>I then deleted the .xastir directory under my home directory, so that 
> xastir would build a new one upon launch.  Sure enough, it worked!
Good reminder.
Having renamed the .xastir file I can now load the 2 UK maps that I
tried.
One is in the wrong place and the wrong shape but it at least loads.The
other loads in the correct place.
Now to copy back the config bits I need.
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Re: [Xastir] New Installation Notes / HowTo for Ubuntu 8.10 & 8.04

2008-11-16 Thread roger g6ckr
On Sun, 2008-11-16 at 13:36 -0600, Lee Bengston wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 12:53 PM, roger g6ckr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Sun, 2008-11-16 at 17:58 +, roger g6ckr wrote:
> >> On Sat, 2008-11-15 at 23:45 -0600, Lee Bengston wrote:
> >> > http://www.xastir.org/wiki/index.php/HowTo:Ubuntu_8.10
> >> >
> >> > Enjoy - hope this helps some folks out.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Lee - K5DAT
> >> > Murphy, TX
> >>
> >> Well that has got me a 1.9.5 initial build runing on my desktop.
> >> Still got the moans from the make but it completed aand so did the
> >> install.
> >> Still don't seem to be able to get to 2 ui-vies maps that were converted
> >> using the inf to geo script to display. But no moans in the terminal
> >> window so I may not be setting something correctly.
> >> Will try the Full fat build now.
> >> 73 Roger G6CKR
> > Full version compiled with some moans.
> > Still can not select maps. In fact I can't even clear the Worldhi map.
> > One thing I have noticed is that I have GCC 4.4, 4.2 and 4.1 all
> > installed. could this be a problem?
> > I was about to remove the higher versions but got a lot of others listed
> > to go as well so left it as is for now.
> >  73 Roger
> 
> I'm wondering if you are seeing the latest incarnation of the problems
> in Gnome when "visual effects" or "desktop effects are enabled.
> 
> Here's a snippet from one of Tom's messages on this issue.
> 
> "Try turning off "visual effects" --- there's an issue with those and Motif.
> "Visual Effects" (Compiz) are the eye-candy like animated window zooming,
> fading screens and 3D stuff that went from being default-off options called
> "Desktop Effects" in 7.10 to default-on called "Visual Effects" in 8.04."
> 
> Since I am using Xubuntu, I would not have this problem.  I don't know
> if they are still called visual effects in 8.10.
> 
> Lee - K5DAT
Yes I did turn them off when Tom posted it and it did help with pop up
item that did not open.
Just checked and visual effects none is still checked.
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Re: [Xastir] New Installation Notes / HowTo for Ubuntu 8.10 & 8.04

2008-11-16 Thread Rick Green
On Sat, 15 Nov 2008, Lee Bengston wrote:

> http://www.xastir.org/wiki/index.php/HowTo:Ubuntu_8.10
>
> Enjoy - hope this helps some folks out.
>
   Yes, thank you, it did indeed get me going!

I wanted to keep it as simple as possible, yet give me a more up-to-date 
install than the distribution package.  I opted to compile from the latest 
stable tarball, using the distribution libraries if at all possible to 
minimize breakage in other applications.
   I was getting 'undeclared variable' errors in map_tif.c during the make, 
and posting the error here elicited no responses, but your comment about 
Ubuntu's 'non-standard' installation of the geotiff library, and the 
configure workaround got me past that one.
   However, when I first launched xastir, it barfed on a missing file:

XReadBitmapFile() failed: Bitmap not found? 
/usr/share/xastir/symbols/2x2.xbm

...thinking this may be a similar issue, I browsed until I found the file 
in /usr/local/share/...
   I then deleted the .xastir directory under my home directory, so that 
xastir would build a new one upon launch.  Sure enough, it worked!

So, this leaves me with a few questions/suggestions:

1) Maybe your wiki entry could add a comment about renaming or removing 
the .xastir subdirectory in the section about 'if you've already installed 
the distributed version'.

2) I don't want to start a pissing contest, but why the talk about 
'non-standard' locations for library and application installs?  Ubuntu as 
well as Fedora and SuSE all claim to be 'FSB compliant' (or LSB compliant, 
some days I can't keep my acronyms straight).  Who's "right"?

   Would it be possible to amend the configure script to search the Ubuntu 
install locations as well as the Fedora/Suse ones?  I would consider the 
current situation a bug, in that configure without the override did detect 
the presence of libgeotiff, but did not configure the compile for the 
correct location.  It would seem to me that it should configure for its 
actual location, or report it as not found.

...and finally, I have a question that is more Debian/ubuntu related than 
xastir per se.  Somewhere, I heard mention of a script that would build a 
simple 'package' from a tarball-compiled application, so that the apt 
database can be aware of the files that were installed.  Would it be 
possible to add a target to the makefile like 'make debinstall' that would 
invoke such a script and perform the install in a way that would minimize 
potential future adverse interactions with distribution package installs 
and upgrades.

-- 
Rick Green, N8BJX

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little
temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
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Re: [Xastir] New Installation Notes / HowTo for Ubuntu 8.10 & 8.04

2008-11-16 Thread Lee Bengston
On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 12:53 PM, roger g6ckr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, 2008-11-16 at 17:58 +, roger g6ckr wrote:
>> On Sat, 2008-11-15 at 23:45 -0600, Lee Bengston wrote:
>> > http://www.xastir.org/wiki/index.php/HowTo:Ubuntu_8.10
>> >
>> > Enjoy - hope this helps some folks out.
>> >
>> >
>> > Lee - K5DAT
>> > Murphy, TX
>>
>> Well that has got me a 1.9.5 initial build runing on my desktop.
>> Still got the moans from the make but it completed aand so did the
>> install.
>> Still don't seem to be able to get to 2 ui-vies maps that were converted
>> using the inf to geo script to display. But no moans in the terminal
>> window so I may not be setting something correctly.
>> Will try the Full fat build now.
>> 73 Roger G6CKR
> Full version compiled with some moans.
> Still can not select maps. In fact I can't even clear the Worldhi map.
> One thing I have noticed is that I have GCC 4.4, 4.2 and 4.1 all
> installed. could this be a problem?
> I was about to remove the higher versions but got a lot of others listed
> to go as well so left it as is for now.
>  73 Roger

I'm wondering if you are seeing the latest incarnation of the problems
in Gnome when "visual effects" or "desktop effects are enabled.

Here's a snippet from one of Tom's messages on this issue.

"Try turning off "visual effects" --- there's an issue with those and Motif.
"Visual Effects" (Compiz) are the eye-candy like animated window zooming,
fading screens and 3D stuff that went from being default-off options called
"Desktop Effects" in 7.10 to default-on called "Visual Effects" in 8.04."

Since I am using Xubuntu, I would not have this problem.  I don't know
if they are still called visual effects in 8.10.

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Re: [Xastir] New Installation Notes / HowTo for Ubuntu 8.10 & 8.04

2008-11-16 Thread roger g6ckr
On Sun, 2008-11-16 at 17:58 +, roger g6ckr wrote:
> On Sat, 2008-11-15 at 23:45 -0600, Lee Bengston wrote:
> > http://www.xastir.org/wiki/index.php/HowTo:Ubuntu_8.10
> > 
> > Enjoy - hope this helps some folks out.
> > 
> > 
> > Lee - K5DAT
> > Murphy, TX
> 
> Well that has got me a 1.9.5 initial build runing on my desktop.
> Still got the moans from the make but it completed aand so did the
> install.
> Still don't seem to be able to get to 2 ui-vies maps that were converted
> using the inf to geo script to display. But no moans in the terminal
> window so I may not be setting something correctly.
> Will try the Full fat build now.
> 73 Roger G6CKR
Full version compiled with some moans.
Still can not select maps. In fact I can't even clear the Worldhi map.
One thing I have noticed is that I have GCC 4.4, 4.2 and 4.1 all
installed. could this be a problem?
I was about to remove the higher versions but got a lot of others listed
to go as well so left it as is for now.
 73 Roger

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Re: [Xastir] New Installation Notes / HowTo for Ubuntu 8.10 & 8.04

2008-11-16 Thread roger g6ckr
On Sat, 2008-11-15 at 23:45 -0600, Lee Bengston wrote:
> http://www.xastir.org/wiki/index.php/HowTo:Ubuntu_8.10
> 
> Enjoy - hope this helps some folks out.
> 
> 
> Lee - K5DAT
> Murphy, TX

Well that has got me a 1.9.5 initial build runing on my desktop.
Still got the moans from the make but it completed aand so did the
install.
Still don't seem to be able to get to 2 ui-vies maps that were converted
using the inf to geo script to display. But no moans in the terminal
window so I may not be setting something correctly.
Will try the Full fat build now.
73 Roger G6CKR

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