Re: [xmail] thx to xmail and its author

2015-05-16 Thread David Lord via xmail
On 16 May 2015 at 16:00, U.Mutlu via xmail wrote:

 Hi folks,
 
 I'm using xmail for a long time now (maybe 7 yrs), and I'm still
 very satisfied with it. OTOH I must admit I'm using it only for
 a small number of users, and I've used (before xmail)
 only one other mail-system (it was qmail iirc).
 
 I'm using a self-compiled version of xmail (the crippled version
 in the debian repository I tried about 2 yrs ago was unusable
 due to cfg-files spread around to many OS-system dirs;
 I like it compact under a single app-dir and its subdirs).
 
 The only thing I don't like much is the usage of TAB as delimiter in the 
 cfg-files.
 
 What I would like to ask is:
 
 - What are the shortcomings or missing features other
users experience with xmail?
 - What about the new developments regarding ssl and
crypto since Snowden,
and their relevance to xmail?
 - What new features should xmail have implemented?

Hi

I started using xmail around 2005 and at that time
also had about four remote users.

Main system here changed over time and is currently
NetBSD. When a security vulnerability relevant to my
setup is announced I rebuild the main base system, 
ntpd, xmail and other affected packages. XMail uses
a few third party programs that are from either base
system, NetBSD pkgsrc or local imports. 

I've always been setup so that a delay is introduced
so that email from point and shoot mailers or
mailers that don't retry isn't received but 
unfortunately hotmail is currently one of those.


David


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[xmail] thx to xmail and its author

2015-05-16 Thread U.Mutlu via xmail

Hi folks,

I'm using xmail for a long time now (maybe 7 yrs), and I'm still
very satisfied with it. OTOH I must admit I'm using it only for
a small number of users, and I've used (before xmail)
only one other mail-system (it was qmail iirc).

I'm using a self-compiled version of xmail (the crippled version
in the debian repository I tried about 2 yrs ago was unusable
due to cfg-files spread around to many OS-system dirs;
I like it compact under a single app-dir and its subdirs).

The only thing I don't like much is the usage of TAB as delimiter in the 
cfg-files.


What I would like to ask is:

- What are the shortcomings or missing features other users experience with 
xmail?
- What about the new developments regarding ssl and crypto since Snowden,
  and their relevance to xmail?
- What new features should xmail have implemented?


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Thx
Uenal
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Re: [xmail] thx to xmail and its author

2015-05-16 Thread Bart Mortelmans via xmail
Hi,

I have been using XMail for what must have been almost 15 years. I still prefer 
XMail for anything that does not need IMAP.

I made some small changes to the code. If anybody would be willing to pick up 
XMail and start development again, I hope that these changes can also get into 
the new version. If you need more details, let me know!

- Change the default error message for a failed pre-date or post-data filter to 
code 451 (by default this would otherwise be 554 which means there won’t be an 
other attempt). For me 451 makes much more sense. 

- Added basic support for LMTP. That way I can have XMail deliver mails to 
dovecot directly. For this, I just had to add the LHLO message next to the HELO 
and EHLO. This works for me, as with my configuration there shouldn’t be any 
event in which XMail tries to deliver one e-mail to multiple recipients via 
LTMP. I’m not sure if there might be other configurations for which more work 
would be needed for LMTP to work.

- Made XMail log a line to SMAIL log in case of delivery failure (posted 
details on this in an e-mail to this mailing list very recently).

If anybody is taking feature requests: I would be interested in a way of XMail 
talking to a “filter” via a socket. Now, for every e-mail to be filtered, a 
process has to be started. It would be much more efficient if XMail could talk 
a filter-server via a socket. That filter server could be anything, but maybe 
we could even get it to talk directly to spamd and clamd…

Sincerely,
Bart Mortelmans


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