Re: [Mailman-Users] List DMARC compliance reconfiguration

2019-11-04 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 11/4/19 7:42 AM, Andy Cravens wrote: > Using mailman 2.1.26. I’m auditing the lists on my server for DMARC > compliance I’ve found several list configs that do not have the DMARC action > set to “munge_from.” It appears I need to edit all those list and fix that > setting

Re: [Mailman-Users] DMARC and Reply-To lines with from_is_list munging.

2014-05-09 Thread Lindsay Haisley
is or should be :/ DMARC draft, sec. 15.2. This is discussion of matters outside the scope of DMARC itself, not a normative specification, and the document itself says there are legitimate uses of email addresses in display names (or comments). But that hasn't stopped the spam-fighters in the past

Re: [Mailman-Users] user being bounced from list?

2017-02-10 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 02/10/2017 05:31 PM, Adam Morris wrote: > > I have a user who is bounced periodically from one of my lists. > > He is on 4 of them but the bounce only happens for one of the lists. ... > Any ideas on what I can do to fix this? It would help to see the bounce m

Re: [Mailman-Users] Recent trouble with DMARC Munging

2017-01-16 Thread Brian Carpenter
> I'm really stumped... any pointers/ideas on where to look would be greatly > appreciated! > > - Scott I would also be interested if anyone has any answers or suggestions to this as we have seen the same issue on our mailman servers. Enabling the DMARC option on the general options page seems t

[Mailman-Users] Unsubscriptions after DMARC fix

2017-04-03 Thread Lindsay Haisley
Last month a Mailman (v2.1.18-1) list on my server got hit with a bunch of bounces based on DMARC rejections from Gmail, Yahoo and Hotmail which honor "p=reject" in a DMARC record. The list had not previously been configured to handle DMARC issues so at that time I set dmarc_moderat

Re: [Mailman-Users] DMARC issues

2014-04-10 Thread Barry Warsaw
/rfc822 part. As far as I know, no component of DMARC allows digging into a message and trying to DMARC the MIME parts. That's what I mean by we can fix it if we make the user experience horrible. See all the complaints about the MIME-proper way we add footers in some cases. -Barry

Re: [Mailman-Users] Unsubscriptions after DMARC fix

2017-04-03 Thread Lindsay Haisley
On Mon, 2017-04-03 at 12:28 -0500, Lindsay Haisley wrote: > Last month a Mailman (v2.1.18-1) list on my server got hit with a > bunch of bounces based on DMARC rejections from Gmail, Yahoo and > Hotmail which honor "p=reject" in a DMARC record. Add comcast.net, msn.com

Re: [Mailman-Users] messages fail to @yahoo @aol @outlook

2019-07-28 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 7/28/19 9:52 AM, Bill Cole wrote: > On 28 Jul 2019, at 11:25, Loren Engrav via Mailman-Users wrote: > >> and searched archives >> and see this goes back years and years >> is there a quick fix I missed in the archives? > > This looks like a DMARC prob

[Mailman-Users] List DMARC compliance reconfiguration

2019-11-04 Thread Andy Cravens
Using mailman 2.1.26. I’m auditing the lists on my server for DMARC compliance I’ve found several list configs that do not have the DMARC action set to “munge_from.” It appears I need to edit all those list and fix that setting. I’ve also noticed that in mm_cfg.py there is no setting

Re: [Mailman-Users] messages fail to @yahoo @aol @outlook

2019-07-28 Thread Bill Cole
On 28 Jul 2019, at 11:25, Loren Engrav via Mailman-Users wrote: > and searched archives > and see this goes back years and years > is there a quick fix I missed in the archives? This looks like a DMARC problem. See https://wiki.list.org/DEV/DMARC -- Bill Cole b...@scconsult.com

Re: [Mailman-Users] Recent trouble with DMARC Munging

2017-01-16 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 01/15/2017 08:58 PM, Scott Neader wrote: > > When yahoo.com or AOL.com users post to our > lists, the Munging is not working. When I query for a DMARC record from > the mail server, it can see the record, so I think it's not a resolver > issue. > > I'm really stumped.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Message.UserNotification vs Message.OwnerNotification in Handlers/Hold.py

2016-10-10 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 5:32 PM, Jim Popovitch <jim...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 4:30 PM, Jim Popovitch <jim...@gmail.com> wrote: >> SO... I've digging further into Mailman code looking to further >> improve problems with DMARC. I've noticed that Mail

[Mailman-Users] Re: Getting full From not via

2020-04-29 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 4/29/20 6:52 AM, Ben Edwards wrote: > Hi, we have a list server with several lists and the setup  seems > different on some and not sure how to fix this. > > The problem is on some lists some people are not getting the names of > the people who send emails (in thunder

Re: [Mailman-Users] DMARC and Bellsouth, etc.

2014-04-16 Thread Jose I. Rojas
is the fix? Help, please... On Apr 16, 2014, at 10:48 AM, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote: On 04/16/2014 06:58 AM, Lindsay Haisley wrote: Has anyone seen issues with Gmail accounts and Yahoo's DMARC policy? I've been working with the list admins of one of FMP's hosted lists and they've seen over

Re: [Mailman-Users] Assistance with altering reply-to behaviours and DMARC

2015-08-28 Thread Barry S. Finkel
in July as follows: https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2015-1417.html and included fixes for a number of DMARC issues. Including ... With this update, domains with a reject DMARC policy are recognized correctly.. Stock Mailman 2.1.12 doesn't do any DMARC detection. This is quite bizarre

Re: [Mailman-Users] cause of bounces

2017-10-10 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
@mark: The Hotmail error message does make it sufficiently clear that these bounces are due to DMARC. I will probably file an RFE to catch these against Mailman 3. Would you like me to do that for Mailman 2, or is this "obvously not worth it" in your opinion? (I intend to s

Re: [Mailman-Users] DMARC and Reply-To lines with from_is_list munging.

2014-05-09 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
(not if!) that abuse happens, the forces behind DMARC will come back and say O no! You can't do THAT! And they (the PHBs, I mean) will break the system again ... and again ... and again. So, unfortunately, I think there is *no* fix based on presentation. The only real fix is users who are sophisticated

Re: [Mailman-Users] need assistance upgrading Mailman

2015-08-25 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
FTR, I've updated the FAQ 6.15 to refer to this thread: http://forum.odin.com/threads/fix-for-mailman-posts-being-rejected-due-to-yahoo-and-aol-dmarc-policy.302641/ Steve -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https

Re: [Mailman-Users] Unsubscriptions after DMARC fix

2017-04-04 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Lindsay Haisley writes: > is an accomplished musician Barry encourages participation by musicians! Not official Barry-spokesman, but reasonably good at channeling :-) -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org

[Mailman-Users] [Mailman-Developers] Fwd: [sympa-users] thoughts re. DMARC impacts

2014-11-02 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
on the dmarc-ietf email list - trying to discuss ways to fix DMARC to better coexist with lists and other 3rd-party services (like send this article to). Unfortunately, it seems like the discussion is bogged down in two regards: - the ietf-dmarc working group is charted to enhance DMARC

[Mailman-Users] DNSException: No Nameservers available for ...

2020-05-27 Thread Lars Bjørndal
Hello One member of a mailman mailing list on my system receives an error message when posting to the list: You are not allowed to post to this mailing list From: a domain which publishes a DMARC policy of reject or quarantine, and your message has been automatically rejected. If you

Re: [Mailman-Users] messages fail to @yahoo @aol @outlook

2019-07-28 Thread Loren Engrav via Mailman-Users
rav via Mailman-Users wrote: >> >>> and searched archives >>> and see this goes back years and years >>> is there a quick fix I missed in the archives? >> >> This looks like a DMARC problem. > > > It is not a DMARC issue. The disconnect comes in

Re: [Mailman-Users] Assistance with altering reply-to behaviours and DMARC

2015-08-29 Thread Mark Sapiro
for a number of DMARC issues. Including ... With this update, domains with a reject DMARC policy are recognized correctly.. Normally the lists we use are configured with reply_goes_to_list and anonymous_list is off. We have done some testing, and we have not been able to identify settings

[Mailman-Users] Mailman not showing sender's name for DMARC domain policy=reject

2014-06-27 Thread Gordon Dickens
Hello, I am runningseveral mailing lists with mailman version 2.1.18-1. Oneof my mailing lists does not ever show the sender's name in the From: headerfor DMARC domain policy=reject while the rest of my lists do show the sender's name in the From: header. I have compared the individual list

Re: [Mailman-Users] Recent trouble with DMARC Munging

2017-01-16 Thread Mark Sapiro
the suggestions there and report what you find. Is this issue coincident with a cPanel update? > Enabling the DMARC > option on the general options page seems to fix it however but I am not sure > in why this has suddenly become a problem with just using the privacy > options -- sender filt

Re: [Mailman-Users] Recent trouble with DMARC Munging

2017-01-16 Thread Brian Carpenter
17- > January/081821.html>. > Follow the suggestions there and report what you find. > > Is this issue coincident with a cPanel update? > > > > Enabling the DMARC > > option on the general options page seems to fix it however but I am not > sure > > in

Re: [Mailman-Users] Unsubscriptions after DMARC fix

2017-04-03 Thread Mark Sapiro
e list server's mailman address, were also bouncing. I would > assume that messages which come directly from our server and are not > reflected through a redirection or mailing list wouldn't be subject to > rejection based on DMARC policy. They aren't "probe" messages in the sen

Re: [Mailman-Users] cause of bounces

2017-10-10 Thread Mark Sapiro
come up with for MM 3, and then maybe consider a backport. > I should also fix the FAQ to mention the names of the new options, no? Both FAQs could use tweaking or more. <https://wiki.list.org/x/17891458> needs more about current options and the MM 3 section at <https:

[Mailman-Users] Fwd: [sympa-users] thoughts re. DMARC impacts

2014-11-02 Thread Victoriano Giralt
-us...@cru.fr sympa-us...@cru.fr,dm...@ietf.org dm...@ietf.org Folks, Many of us just had to deal with the impacts of DMARC on our lists. In the aftermath, I've been participating on the dmarc-ietf email list - trying to discuss ways to fix DMARC to better coexist with lists and other

[Mailman-Users] Re: Charter occasionally bouncing mail

2021-11-29 Thread Michael Reeder -- Hygeia MS
ing from a large range of ipv6 addresses on a cloud server. Spamhause does something like this too, but you can fix it by getting a "proper" ipv6 address that specifies the range ("/64" at the end). Some geneneral On 11/29/21 00:51, Jayson Smith wrote: Hi again, Good point about D

[Mailman-Users] Re: Charter occasionally bouncing mail

2021-11-29 Thread Jon Baron
I have had a lot of experience with these things. Here are some observations. I have a list of 4000+ subscribers around the world. I have SPF and DKIM but not DMARC. (I never say much point in DMARC, and it does not seem necessary.) Right now every single one of the 4000+ subscribers accepts

Re: [Mailman-Users] DKIM Failures cause posts from gmail users to not be relayed to the list

2015-08-12 Thread Mark Sapiro
to change the situation as well. This is not a DMARC issue per se as gmail's DMARC policy is p=none. I then attempted to set this setting to wrap message, which again did not fix the issue. Because gmail's DMARC policy is p=none, dmarc_moderation_action won't apply to this mail. At this point

Re: [Mailman-Users] Best solution to fix the yahoo problem?

2014-04-13 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Apr 14, 2014, at 11:03 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Given that the whole site is at risk, should it be an option for list owners at all? This is a good point. It may make sense for the site admin to select whether some general DMARC mitigation approach is enabled for their lists

[Mailman-Users] HTML messages being scrubbed...

2014-07-12 Thread Peter Knowles
Hi, Ever since I upgraded Mailman to address DMARC issues in April a number of archives have been having their HTML messages scrubbed. The result is that the archived message shows all these scrubbed notices instead of the actual message. What is causing this and how do I resolve

Re: [Mailman-Users] Unsubscriptions after DMARC fix

2017-04-05 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Apr 05, 2017, at 11:36 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >Barry encourages participation by musicians! > >Not official Barry-spokesman, but reasonably good at channeling :-) Don't forget the secret bassplayer.py handler! You email it a drum pattern and it replybots you a funky groove in E. -B

Re: [Mailman-Users] messages fail to @yahoo @aol @outlook

2019-07-31 Thread Loren Engrav via Mailman-Users
te: >>> >>>> and searched archives >>>> and see this goes back years and years >>>> is there a quick fix I missed in the archives? >>> >>> This looks like a DMARC problem. >> >> >> It is not a DMARC issue. T

Re: [Mailman-Users] DMARC and Bellsouth, etc.

2014-04-16 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
to everybody, but emails from @yahoo.com members are not, then the problem may very well be Yahoo!'s DMARC policy. Our ISP tells us domain is RFC-compliant and problem must be with Bellsouth or Yahoo. That's not very helpful of them. How do we resolve this? What is the fix? If in fact

Re: [Mailman-Users] HTML messages being scrubbed...

2014-07-12 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 07/11/2014 11:31 PM, Peter Knowles wrote: Hi, Ever since I upgraded Mailman to address DMARC issues in April a number of archives have been having their HTML messages scrubbed. I suspect you upgraded to 2.1.16 or 2.1.17 and that 2.1.18 and 2.1.18-1 do not have this behavior. I'm

Re: [Mailman-Users] DMARC and Bellsouth, etc.

2014-04-16 Thread Lindsay Haisley
I'll jump in here and offer the quick solution that I'm using at FMP. The primary culprit here is Yahoo, which publishes a DMARC p=reject policy via DNS. To the best of our knowledge, so far, no one else is doing this, although sbcglobal, att.net, comcast.net, Hotmail and a number of other email

Re: [Mailman-Users] 2.1.18 internal documentation suggestions

2014-04-30 Thread Mark Sapiro
of settings is organized. These may be stupid questions, but I can just about guarantee you that all my list admins will trip on them :( I hear you. It is badly explained and I need to fix it. Thanks for raising this. I changed it. In the 2.1.18 final it will say

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman not showing sender's name for DMARC domain policy=reject

2014-06-27 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 06/27/2014 11:22 AM, Gordon Dickens wrote: Hello, I am runningseveral mailing lists with mailman version 2.1.18-1. Oneof my mailing lists does not ever show the sender's name in the From: headerfor DMARC domain policy=reject while the rest of my lists do show the sender's name

[Mailman-Users] Re: Charter occasionally bouncing mail

2021-11-30 Thread Jayson Smith
if each incident is years apart? Who knows? Jayson On 11/29/2021 6:55 AM, Jon Baron wrote: I have had a lot of experience with these things. Here are some observations. I have a list of 4000+ subscribers around the world. I have SPF and DKIM but not DMARC. (I never say much point in DMARC, and i

Re: [Mailman-Users] dmarc_moderation_action isn't working

2014-05-29 Thread Joel Uckelman
Thus spake Mark Sapiro: On 05/28/2014 10:28 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Mark Sapiro writes: If there are no 'DMARC' entries in Mailman's logs, it most likely means the imports I show above didn't succeed in the python that Mailman is using, in which case

Re: [Mailman-Users] No mail received

2015-03-04 Thread Mark Sapiro
others. How do I fix this? Regards len I found that DMARC is pervasive enough to cause this behavior. Using munge from fixed it for me, be aware you need a very recent version of MM to have the options. If the posts that aren't received are all From: yahoo.com and aol.com addresses

Re: [Mailman-Users] DMARC hack

2015-05-24 Thread Allan Hansen
and I’m weary of messing anything up, as I have basically no time or background to fix it. Yours, Allan On May 24, 2015, at 11:06 , Andrew Hodgson and...@hodgsonfamily.org wrote: Allan Hansen wrote: Stephen, Much appreciated. Checking for aol.com and yahoo.com here alone

Re: [Mailman-Users] need assistance upgrading Mailman

2015-08-25 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
is not for the faint of heart. IIRC, that FAQ is quite old (like 2008?) At least it mentions Plesk 7 (currently Plesk is at 12+ it seems, with 11.x still in support). According to this thread: http://forum.odin.com/threads/fix-for-mailman-posts-being-rejected-due-to-yahoo-and-aol-dmarc-policy

Re: [Mailman-Users] header field: Sender

2016-03-29 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
use there is "sufficient reason" for doing so. If you don't like it, you'll have to take it up with the list owner, not with us.) > Depending on list settings, a new, merged, Reply-To: or Cc: will be > created and the original replaced, Also From may be munged to disable DMARC, depending on list se

Re: [Mailman-Users] Recent trouble with DMARC Munging

2017-01-16 Thread Lindsay Haisley
On Mon, 2017-01-16 at 10:23 -0800, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Note that if you are seeing the > > DNS lookup for dmarc_moderation_action for list not > available > > messages, restarting Mailman may fix it. Also, in this case try > > python -c "import dns.resolver&q

Re: [Mailman-Users] cause of bounces

2017-10-14 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Mark Sapiro writes: > Are you suggesting that we ignore bounces that can be determined to be > due to DMARC policy. Not *completely* ignore. There are several independent actions we can take based on bounces, depending on list option settings. I'm suggesting only that we not inc

Re: [Mailman-Users] The last release from the GNU Mailman project

2020-02-27 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 2/27/20 1:37 PM, Brian Carpenter wrote: Brian makes a number of good points. I just have a couple of remarks/questions. > 5. MM3 DMARC handling seems to have improved from reviews I have seen > but NO BOUNCE PROCESSING. I don't know why Mailman 3's DMARC mitigation is considered im

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest option for Yahoo and AOL subscribers?

2014-05-24 Thread Richard Damon
to be on digest will do nothing about the problem. It is them posting that causes the problem. Putting everyone on systems that respect the DMARC settings (which include Yahoo, AOL, plus a number of others including Comcast, SBC, and others) will fix the problem, as the digests don't claim to come from

Re: [Mailman-Users] Best solution to fix the yahoo problem?

2014-04-13 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
site is at risk, should it be an option for list owners at all? Jim P's branch mentioned in his post at https://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2014-April/076383.html is a general implementation for posts From: any domain with a reject DMARC policy. We are talking about

Re: [Mailman-Users] Best solution to fix the yahoo problem?

2014-04-13 Thread Jim Popovitch
general DMARC mitigation approach is enabled for their lists or not, and then allow the list admins to select the approach that is least unpalatable for their users. I agree, very valid point. -Jim P. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman

Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-Developers] Mailman 2.1.18 final release

2014-05-06 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote: A critical incompatibility between the Mailman 2.1.18 final release and Python versions older than 2.6.5 or thereabouts affecting the DMARC Wrap Message action was discovered and fixed. This incompatibility also existed

Re: [Mailman-Users] dmarc_moderation_action isn't working

2014-05-29 Thread Joel Uckelman
and the package is available, something should be logged unless the DNS lookup of DMARC policy for the From: domain succeeds and doesn't find a p=reject (or quarantine). I have attached a patch to Mailman/Utils.py which is a fix for https://bugs.launchpad.net/mailman/+bug/1324541 which

Re: [Mailman-Users] Senders' email addresses not in archives

2014-07-21 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 07/21/2014 07:58 PM, Conrad G T Yoder wrote: [Using 2.1.17] I just realized that with the DMARC mitigation “Mung From” option turned on, the senders’ email addresses are not showing up in the archives. So, basically impossible to contact them unless replying to the whole list

Re: [Mailman-Users] No mail received

2015-03-04 Thread Bryan Blackwell
On Mar 3, 2015, at 8:08 PM, len ward len.w...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I manage a list of 60 members. If I send an email it does not get to anybody, yet it is recorded in archives. Same for most others, although I know one person gets through and maybe others. How do I fix this? Regards len

Re: [Mailman-Users] Recent trouble with DMARC Munging

2017-01-16 Thread Mark Sapiro
issue. I.e. they released an update which neglected to include that. It was there previously. I don't know enough about cPanel to know if this will work, but assuming you have pip, sudo pip install dnspython should fix it. -- Mark Sapiro <m...@msapiro.net>The highway is for gamblers, S

Re: [Mailman-Users] cause of bounces

2017-10-19 Thread William Bagwell
everal banks that participate in IETF discussions. > Since 2013 for Yahoo! and LinkedIn IIRC. So if enough users of Yahoo and AOL requested something such as u...@list.aol.com to not be DMARC p=reject they /might/ listen? Only list I help administer the owner simply moderates the few remaining hol

Re: [Mailman-Users] Messages delivered out of order and delayed

2019-09-14 Thread Mark Sapiro
verse DNS. It is not an issue with DMARC or DKIM signing as the disconnect occurred before any of that information was sent. Only DreamHost can fix this. -- Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabe

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman not showing sender's name for DMARC domain policy=reject

2014-06-27 Thread Gordon Dickens
. Gordon On 06/27/2014 05:29 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: On 06/27/2014 11:22 AM, Gordon Dickens wrote: Hello, I am runningseveral mailing lists with mailman version 2.1.18-1. Oneof my mailing lists does not ever show the sender's name in the From: headerfor DMARC domain policy=reject while the rest

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2.1 security release

2021-10-19 Thread Mark Sapiro
I am pleased to announce the release of Mailman 2.1.35. This is a security and minor bug fix release. See the attached README.txt for details. For those who just want a patch for the security issues, see <https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mailman-coders/mailman/2.1/revision/1873>. The

Re: [Mailman-Users] DMARC and Bellsouth, etc.

2014-04-16 Thread Tom Lieuallen
helpful of them. How do we resolve this? What is the fix? If in fact the problem is Yahoo!'s DMARC policy, you can't resolve it and there is no fix. Simply put, Yahoo! does not permit their users to post to modern mailing lists that conform to the mail standards. There are four possible workarounds

Re: [Mailman-Users] No mail received

2015-03-05 Thread Gretchen R Beck
. How do I fix this? Regards len I found that DMARC is pervasive enough to cause this behavior. Using munge from fixed it for me, be aware you need a very recent version of MM to have the options. If the posts that aren't received are all From: yahoo.com and aol.com addresses, DMARC

[Mailman-Users] Re: DNSException: No Nameservers available for ...

2020-05-27 Thread David Gibbs via Mailman-Users
his mailing list From: a domain which > publishes a DMARC policy of reject or quarantine, and your message has been > automatically rejected. If you think that your messages are being rejected > in error, contact the mailing list owner at nssf-styre-ow...@nssf.us. > &g

[Mailman-Users] Re: DNSException: No Nameservers available for ...

2020-05-27 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 5/27/20 1:32 AM, Lars Bjørndal wrote: > Hello > > One member of a mailman mailing list on my system receives an error > message when posting to the list: > > You are not allowed to post to this mailing list From: a domain which > publishes a DMARC policy of reject or

[Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.18 final release

2014-05-06 Thread Mark Sapiro
with a fix for this incompatibility. Please use 2.1.18-1 and not 2.1.18. These releases have new features to help with mitigation of the impacts of DMARC on mailing lists as well as fixing several bugs. Python 2.4 is the minimum supported, but Python 2.7 is recommended. There are significant new

[Mailman-Users] Re: Reply-to addresses

2022-03-27 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
ently been having bouncing > > problems specifically with gmail addresses. I'm surprised you have problems specifically with Gmail. Their DMARC policy is still p=none, so DMARC is not why they're bouncing. Lack of SPF seems more likely. AOL and Yahoo! are much more comon sources o

[Mailman-Users] Re: Yahoo blocking their emails

2023-03-10 Thread annette carter
Mark and Jim, Thank you for the information. I'm not sure exactly which isthe fix for me, I don't want to make things worse. Maybe it will help if Ishared my settings and what I've done so far. - I'm running 11 mm lists 1.2.39 through cPanel. I have a VPS with InMotion Hosting. I have

[Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.25 released

2017-10-26 Thread Mark Sapiro
I am pleased to announce the release of Mailman 2.1.25. Python 2.4 is the minimum supported, but Python 2.7 is strongly recommended. This is a routine bug fix release with a minor new feature and some accessibility improvements for screen readers. See the attached README.txt for details

Re: [Mailman-Users] UnicodeDecodeError with Mailman 2.1 and Python 2.6

2015-09-02 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
ent a fair amount of time on questions that ended up being related to Debian patches (specifically the execrable mailman-to-postfix script, although that did at least have a good reason behind it from the point of view of the distro, it was very fragile but Debian saw no need to fix it). > and

Re: [Mailman-Users] Many users unsubscribed at once (not by me)

2015-12-13 Thread Jayson Smith
issues come up all at once is that there's a problem between your server and the destination mail server for those messages. It could be that the DMARC settings in Mailman aren't set correctly and those servers are rejecting messages they don't like, or it could be that your server's IP address

[Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.22 release

2016-04-17 Thread Mark Sapiro
pdated by Emerson Ribeiro de Mello. Bug fixes and other patches - All addresses in data/virtual-mailman are now properly appended with VIRTUAL_MAILMAN_LOCAL_DOMAIN and duplicates are not generated if the site list is in a virtual domain. (LP: #1570630) - DMARC mitig

Re: [Mailman-Users] Best solution to fix the yahoo problem?

2014-04-13 Thread Mark Sapiro
to implement it. Jim P's branch mentioned in his post at https://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2014-April/076383.html is a general implementation for posts From: any domain with a reject DMARC policy. We are talking about this at PyCon now. At sprints starting tomorrow, we will be working

Re: [Mailman-Users] dmarc_moderation_action isn't working

2014-05-29 Thread Mark Sapiro
of DMARC policy for the From: domain succeeds and doesn't find a p=reject (or quarantine). I have attached a patch to Mailman/Utils.py which is a fix for https://bugs.launchpad.net/mailman/+bug/1324541 which will log the unavailability of DNS lookup. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net

Re: [Mailman-Users] Many users unsubscribed at once (not by me)

2015-12-13 Thread Hal
On 13/12/2015 13:05, Jayson Smith wrote: Hi, Unfortunately, disabling automatic removal from the list will only fix one effect of the problem, not the problem itself. There's something going on which is causing mail to those addresses to bounce. If you are receiving messages with the subject

Re: [Mailman-Users] Recent trouble with DMARC Munging

2017-01-17 Thread Brian Carpenter
currently working on providing a fix that will be pushed out in an update. Meanwhile they did provide me a workaround that fixes the issue. Here is what they said related to the reported bug: ## Indeed, I've replicated this concern on our test servers and I see

Re: [Mailman-Users] Unsubscriptions after DMARC fix

2017-04-03 Thread Lindsay Haisley
On Mon, 2017-04-03 at 15:03 -0500, Lindsay Haisley wrote: > Actually, we try to be gentle with these folks and keep things as > simple as possible. Some of them are pretty non-techie and these > messages probably elicit a hormonal technophobia reaction. I'll just > resubscribe them. My list owner

Re: [Mailman-Users] Unsubscriptions after DMARC fix

2017-04-03 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 04/03/2017 01:21 PM, Lindsay Haisley wrote: > > Good question! So we want to simply zero out all the bounce counts, and > possibly the notification counts for the whole list on a one-time > basis. Will turning off bounce_processing for a day or so do this? You could turn off bounce

Re: [Mailman-Users] Unsubscriptions after DMARC fix

2017-04-03 Thread Lindsay Haisley
On Mon, 2017-04-03 at 12:40 -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote: > So basically, the users that were unsubscribed ignored the fact that > they weren't receiving list mail and ignored 10 messages informing them > their delivery was disabled and telling them how to re-enable it. OK, so I'm in the clear to

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman CSRF Vulnerability

2018-01-10 Thread Lindsay Haisley
On Tue, 2018-01-09 at 09:10 -0800, Mark Sapiro wrote: > See <https://bugs.launchpad.net/mailman/+bug/1614841>. The comment > thread contains a link to a patch to fix versions >= 2.1.15 and <= > 2.1.22, however the version "2.1.18-1" indicates this is some distro's &

[Mailman-Users] Problems sending to prodigy.net mail server addresses

2019-02-04 Thread Richard Johnson
I run a small mailman server for our historical recreation group. Lately, I've been seeing messages like: : host al-ip4-mx-vip1.prodigy.net[144.160.235.143] said: 550 5.7.1 Connections not accepted from servers without a valid sender domain.alph733 Fix reverse DNS for 149.28.67.38 (in reply

[Mailman-Users] Fwd: Bounce action notification

2021-03-22 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Vako Nicolian writes: > Today suddenly all my member emails bounced as you see a sample > below. > What happened and how can I fix it? This seems very unlikely to be a mailman problem at all. If for some reason somebody tries to blame it on Mailman and you want more help, pleas

[Mailman-Users] Re: Missing emails

2023-08-04 Thread Mark Sapiro
. Other email providers seem to be getting the messages. Any ideas on how to fix this? Either ensure that General Options -> from_is List is either Munge From or Wrap Message to apply DMARC mitigations to all mail or in Privacy options... -> Sender filters, dmarc_moderation_action is

Re: [Mailman-Users] Help with ONE broken list (Mailman 2.1.9) - part 2

2015-05-07 Thread Drew Tenenholz
is something backported the DMARC mitigations into your Mailman 2.1.9 and also included code in Mailman/versions.py to update older lists, but whether or not a list gets updated by this process depends on the list's data_version being less than the DATA_FILE_VERSION defined in Mailman/Version.py

Re: [Mailman-Users] Help with ONE broken list (Mailman 2.1.9) P.S.

2015-05-05 Thread Mark Sapiro
is something backported the DMARC mitigations into your Mailman 2.1.9 and also included code in Mailman/versions.py to update older lists, but whether or not a list gets updated by this process depends on the list's data_version being less than the DATA_FILE_VERSION defined in Mailman/Version.py. So, still

[Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.34 released

2020-06-26 Thread Mark Sapiro
I am pleased to announce the release of Mailman 2.1.34. This is a minor bug fix release and has updates to the Spanish i18n. See the attached README.txt for details. As noted Mailman 2.1.30 was the last feature release of the Mailman 2.1 branch from the GNU Mailman project. There has been some

[Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.24 released

2017-06-02 Thread Mark Sapiro
From: header for messages with DMARC mitigations. (LP: #1643210) - Fixed an issue causing UnicodeError in sending digests following a change of a list's preferred_language. (LP: #1644356) - Enhanced the fix for race conditions in MailList().Load(). (LP: #266464) - Fix

Re: [Mailman-Users] Add PayPal to DNs publishing DMARC p=reject

2014-05-07 Thread Conrad G T Yoder
hours ago. (Apparently weren’t willing to wait to do testing on 2.1.18-1.) So we will squint thoughtfully at the monitor, nod almost imperceptibly, pick a setting which is the least egregious to fix this problem, and then have some scotch. -Conrad On May 7, 2014, at 11:05 PM, Keith Bierman khb

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and dmark help -- please

2015-05-07 Thread Mark Sapiro
to send and receive e-mail from the mailing list. Any suggestions on how to fix this? This message was created automatically by mail delivery software. A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed

[Mailman-Users] DKIM Failures cause posts from gmail users to not be relayed to the list

2015-08-12 Thread Peter Bossley
, next, thinking that the DMARC issues that have been plaguing the internet lately were to blame, I tried changing the DMARC_Moderation setting to munge. This failed to change the situation as well. I then attempted to set this setting to wrap message, which again did not fix the issue

Re: [Mailman-Users] Many users unsubscribed at once (not by me)

2015-12-13 Thread Jayson Smith
Hi, Unfortunately, disabling automatic removal from the list will only fix one effect of the problem, not the problem itself. There's something going on which is causing mail to those addresses to bounce. If you are receiving messages with the subject of "Bounce action notific

[Mailman-Users] messages fail to @yahoo @aol @outlook

2019-07-28 Thread Mark Sapiro
gt; other addresses pass. > > The latest notice(s) are summarized below. > > Site5 people cannot seem to fix this. > > Any advice for me / Site5? (I am not expert at this) ... > Final-Recipient: rfc822; engravosaurus...@aol.com > <mailto:engravosaurus...@aol.com>

[Mailman-Users] Reply-to addresses

2022-03-27 Thread Michael Welch
fix this easily. I know a little about this stuff, but I'm basically just a list manager, not a full-on sysop, so please be gentle in your terminology and instruction. From Dreamhost support: >Taking a look into the 're-wrenches-re-wrenches.org' list, the bounce >errors point to possible

Re: [Mailman-Users] Many users unsubscribed at once (not by me)

2015-12-13 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Sun, 13 Dec 2015 13:42:47 +0100, Hal writes: >On 13/12/2015 13:05, Jayson Smith wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Unfortunately, disabling automatic removal from the list will only fix >> one effect of the problem, not the problem itself. There's something >&g

Re: [Mailman-Users] header field: Sender

2016-03-30 Thread willi uebelherr
ed, Also From may be munged to disable DMARC, depending on list settings and possibly a DNS check for DMARC policy. > but headers like X-BeenThere: X-Mailman-Version:, etc., will just > be added. BTW, in my (recent) experience Mailman 2 does not handle List-Post and List-ID correctly. I

[Mailman-Users] Re: Yahoo blocking their emails

2023-03-10 Thread Robert Heller
members to change to a different provider. (Even Outlook.com [Microsoft] is better than Yahoo.) At Fri, 10 Mar 2023 18:30:30 + (UTC) annette carter wrote: > > > Mark and Jim, > > Thank you for the information. I'm not sure exactly which isthe fix for me, I > don't want to

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce Processing

2016-04-20 Thread Mark Sapiro
st. This will at least give you some more information. If as I suspect you do not control Mailman or the MTA on the host machine, there's probably nothing you can do to fix this and since the host and the user's support are pointing fingers at each other, there's not much hope for resolution th

Re: [Mailman-Users] Recent trouble with DMARC Munging

2017-01-17 Thread Lindsay Haisley
led by cPanel or by the distribution's suggested dependencies map. > > -- > cPanel has confirmed the bug and they are currently working on providing a > fix that will be pushed out in an update. Meanwhile they did provide me a >

Re: [Mailman-Users] Avoiding mangling in Mailman 3?

2019-12-10 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
on where To is changed from the list to the subscriber, but that shouldn't cause client problems or DMARC issues). I don't see how we can do anything reliable about that. From is a *required* field in RFC 5322 message syntax, and it *must* contain a mailbox (perhaps along with a display name).

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