Re: [gentoo-user] Ansible, puppet and chef

2014-09-17 Thread Eray Aslan
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 10:43:18PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Puppet seems to me a good product for a large site with 1000 hosts. Not so much for ~20 or so. I find that for a few machines, puppet is overkill. For a lot of machines, puppet can become unmanageable - with puppet master

[gentoo-user] [ANN] Ebuild for Puppet

2006-09-07 Thread José González Gómez
Hi there,I recently discovered Puppet[1], From their web site: Puppet is an open-source next-generation server automation tool. It is composed of a declarative language for expressing system configuration, a client and server for distributing it, and a library for realizing the configuration

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Ansible, puppet and chef

2014-09-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 17/09/2014 07:46, Hans de Graaff wrote: On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 22:43:18 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Puppet seems to me a good product for a large site with 1000 hosts. Not so much for ~20 or so. Plus puppet's language and configs get large and hard to keep track of - lots and lots

Re: [gentoo-user] Ansible, puppet and chef

2014-09-16 Thread Alec Ten Harmsel
We use bcfg2, and all I can say is to stay away. XML abuse runs rampant in bcfg2. From what I've heard from other professional sysadmins, Puppet is the favorite, but that's mostly conjecture. Alec On 09/16/2014 04:43 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: Anyone here used ansible and at least one of puppet

Re: [gentoo-user] Cross system dependencies

2014-06-29 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 08:55:41 +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote: or... puppet and it's kin Last time I looked at puppet, it seemed too complex for what I need. I will recheck it again. What about something like monit? -- Neil Bothwick Bug: (n.) any program feature not yet described

[gentoo-user] Ansible, puppet and chef

2014-09-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
Anyone here used ansible and at least one of puppet/chef? What are your thoughts? I've made several attempts over the years to get puppet going but never really got it off the ground. Chef I stay away from (likely due to the first demo of it I saw and how badly that went) Puppet seems to me

Re: [gentoo-user] Ansible, puppet and chef

2014-09-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 17/09/2014 11:34, J. Roeleveld wrote: On Wednesday, September 17, 2014 12:19:37 PM Eray Aslan wrote: On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 10:43:18PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Puppet seems to me a good product for a large site with 1000 hosts. Not so much for ~20 or so. I find that for a few

[gentoo-user] Re: Ansible, puppet and chef

2014-09-17 Thread Hans de Graaff
On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 22:43:18 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Puppet seems to me a good product for a large site with 1000 hosts. Not so much for ~20 or so. Plus puppet's language and configs get large and hard to keep track of - lots and lots of directory trees with many things mentioning other

Re: [gentoo-user] XOrg / XRanR segfault starting X

2016-08-18 Thread David Haller
Hello, On Thu, 18 Aug 2016, james wrote: >other tools:: 'lshw' or sys-apps/hwinfo HTH, -dnh -- "I'm nobody's puppet!"-- Rygel XIV

Re: [gentoo-user] Managing multiple Gentoo systems

2011-07-07 Thread kashani
/client arrangement with the only Gentoo install being on the server could be appropriate. - Grant You may want to look at something like a config management system. I'm using Puppet these days, but Gentoo support isn't spectacular. It would be a bit complex to have Puppet install

Re: [gentoo-user] Managing multiple systems with identical hardware

2013-09-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 27/09/2013 06:33, Johann Schmitz wrote: Hi Alan, On 26.09.2013 22:42, Alan McKinnon wrote: You will break things horribly and will curse the day you tried. Basically, puppet and portage will get in each other's way and clobber each other. Puppet has no concept of USE flags worth a damn

Re: [gentoo-user] Ansible, puppet and chef

2014-09-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 17/09/2014 03:30, Alec Ten Harmsel wrote: We use bcfg2, and all I can say is to stay away. XML abuse runs rampant in bcfg2. From what I've heard from other professional sysadmins, Puppet is the favorite, but that's mostly conjecture. XML. Ugh. OSSEC works like that too. The software itself

Re: [gentoo-user] Ansible, puppet and chef

2014-09-17 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Tuesday, September 16, 2014 10:43:18 PM Alan McKinnon wrote: Anyone here used ansible and at least one of puppet/chef? What are your thoughts? I've made several attempts over the years to get puppet going but never really got it off the ground. Chef I stay away from (likely due

Re: [gentoo-user] Ansible, puppet and chef

2014-09-17 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Wednesday, September 17, 2014 12:19:37 PM Eray Aslan wrote: On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 10:43:18PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Puppet seems to me a good product for a large site with 1000 hosts. Not so much for ~20 or so. I find that for a few machines, puppet is overkill. For a lot

Re: [gentoo-user] Managing multiple Gentoo systems

2011-07-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
to put together a bunch of new workstations and I'm thinking some sort of server/client arrangement with the only Gentoo install being on the server could be appropriate. - Grant You may want to look at something like a config management system. I'm using Puppet

Re: [gentoo-user] Managing multiple systems with identical hardware

2013-09-26 Thread Johann Schmitz
Hi Alan, On 26.09.2013 22:42, Alan McKinnon wrote: You will break things horribly and will curse the day you tried. Basically, puppet and portage will get in each other's way and clobber each other. Puppet has no concept of USE flags worth a damn, cannot determine in advance what an ebuild

Re: [gentoo-user] Ansible, puppet and chef

2014-09-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 17/09/2014 09:34, J. Roeleveld wrote: On Tuesday, September 16, 2014 10:43:18 PM Alan McKinnon wrote: Anyone here used ansible and at least one of puppet/chef? What are your thoughts? I've made several attempts over the years to get puppet going but never really got it off the ground

Re: [gentoo-user] Cross system dependencies

2014-06-29 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Sunday, June 29, 2014 09:35:33 AM Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 08:55:41 +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote: or... puppet and it's kin Last time I looked at puppet, it seemed too complex for what I need. I will recheck it again. What about something like monit? Hmm... I

Re: [gentoo-user] Managing multiple Gentoo systems

2011-07-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
with the only Gentoo install being on the server could be appropriate. - Grant You may want to look at something like a config management system. I'm using Puppet these days, but Gentoo support isn't spectacular. It would be a bit complex to have Puppet install the packages

Re: [gentoo-user] Ansible, puppet and chef

2014-09-17 Thread Tomas Mozes
On 2014-09-17 14:07, Alan McKinnon wrote: Nagios btw has the same problem hence why I'm switching to Icinga 2 which fixes Nagios's config language once and for all. Or you can use hostgroups/templates and have all your configuration in files and in git. Depends what you like more.

Re: [gentoo-user] Ansible, puppet and chef

2014-09-17 Thread Tomas Mozes
On 2014-09-16 22:43, Alan McKinnon wrote: Anyone here used ansible and at least one of puppet/chef? What are your thoughts? I've made several attempts over the years to get puppet going but never really got it off the ground. Chef I stay away from (likely due to the first demo of it I saw

Re: [gentoo-user] Ansible, puppet and chef

2014-09-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 17/09/2014 09:07, Tomas Mozes wrote: On 2014-09-16 22:43, Alan McKinnon wrote: Anyone here used ansible and at least one of puppet/chef? What are your thoughts? I've made several attempts over the years to get puppet going but never really got it off the ground. Chef I stay away from

Re: [gentoo-user] Managing multiple systems with identical hardware

2013-09-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
that into service as your master build host. yeah, it takes 10% longer to build stuff, but so what? Do it overnight. Maybe puppet could help with that? It would almost be like my own distro. Some laptops would have stuff installed that they don't need but at least they aren't running Fedora

Re: [gentoo-user] Ansible, puppet and chef

2014-09-17 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Wednesday, September 17, 2014 10:12:52 AM Alan McKinnon wrote: On 17/09/2014 09:34, J. Roeleveld wrote: On Tuesday, September 16, 2014 10:43:18 PM Alan McKinnon wrote: Anyone here used ansible and at least one of puppet/chef? What are your thoughts? I've made several attempts

Re: [gentoo-user] SCIRE Project

2007-02-13 Thread Duane Griffin
anything about SCIRE but you may want to take a look at puppet: http://reductivelabs.com/projects/puppet/index.html There are ebuilds available from bugs.gentoo.org. Cheers, Duane. -- I never could learn to drink that blood and call it wine - Bob Dylan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] Which network monitoring?

2011-04-03 Thread kashani
wmi stuff, IIRC. I've been using a combination of Mysql backed Puppet with stored resources for system management. Then push Nagios configs to the Nagios server via tags in Puppet. Still working to get it right, but it's about there. Next step is to get collectd working with Nagios as well

Re: [gentoo-user] portage for chef-0.10.0

2011-06-28 Thread kashani
. As the others have pointed out it's coming, but in the short term you can always gem install directly and continue to use the init scripts that shipped with the portage package. I do the same on Ubuntu w/ Puppet. kashani

Re: [gentoo-user] NFS tutorial for the brain dead sysadmin?

2014-07-27 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 27.07.2014 18:25, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: Only last week I re-attacked this topic as I start using puppet here to manage my systems ... and one part of this might be sharing /usr/portage via NFSv4. One client host mounts it without a problem, the thinkpads don't do so ... just

Re: [gentoo-user] [Extremely OT] Ansible/Puppet replacement

2015-01-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 27/01/2015 10:49, Tomas Mozes wrote: I haven't tested it yet, however I like the minimalistic syntax. As an ansible user - do you plan to allow using default values for modules and/or variables? +1 for that. I'm also a happy ansible user with zero plans to change, but I can't imagine a

Re: [gentoo-user] preventing keyboard layout files from being overritten during system upgrades

2015-12-04 Thread Alec Ten Harmsel
On Fri, Dec 04, 2015 at 01:55:30PM +0200, gevisz wrote: > > So, my main question is How can I ensure that the already > edited /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/ru file will not be overwritten > during the next system update. Thabk you. > Use a configuration management tool like pu

Re: [gentoo-user] Managing multiple Gentoo systems

2011-07-07 Thread kashani
You may want to look at something like a config management system. I'm using Puppet these days, but Gentoo support isn't spectacular. It would be a bit complex to have Puppet install the packages with the correct USE flags. However you could use Puppet to manage all the text files and then manage

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Managing multiple systems with identical hardware

2013-09-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
distribution and is probable more tightly integrated with something like debian or such OSes. Can you give me a general idea of how my workflow might be with a solution like that? It's not really possible to give a cut and dried answer to that, as all three solutions (CFEngine, Puppet, Chef) try

Re: [gentoo-user] another old box to update

2015-01-07 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 08.01.2015 um 00:02 schrieb Alan McKinnon: In my opinion, ansible almost always beats puppet. Puppet is a) complex b) built to be able to deal with vast enterprise setups and c) has a definition language I never could wrap my brains around. It always felt to me like puppet was never

Re: [gentoo-user] maintaining clones

2009-08-02 Thread Ajai Khattri
by a network boot. you could even boot them from thumb drives or cds. of course, it would be a good bit of work to configure initially, and might not go whithout a hitch. For configuration, you may want to look at something like puppet to manage that. Your build machine would the puppetmaster

Re: [gentoo-user] core i5

2010-06-24 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 24.06.2010 05:04, schrieb kashani: That's works. :-) I was doing a fair amount of rpm building, svn to git with large trees, kickstart, Mysql, and Puppet work at a job a few months ago which was hitting the host fairly hard. Between the above and Outlook getting an extra drive

Re: [gentoo-user] portage for chef-0.10.0

2011-06-29 Thread Alexey Melezhik
scripts that shipped with the portage package. I do the same on Ubuntu w/ Puppet. kashani

Re: [gentoo-user] Ansible, puppet and chef

2014-09-17 Thread Tomas Mozes
On 2014-09-17 10:08, Alan McKinnon wrote: That's almost exactly the same setup I have in mind. How complex do the playbooks get in real-life? The common role has about 70 tasks. It does almost everything covered in the handbook plus installs and configures additional stuff like postfix,

Re: [gentoo-user] [Extremely OT] Ansible/Puppet replacement

2015-01-27 Thread Alec Ten Harmsel
On 01/27/2015 11:33 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 27/01/2015 10:49, Tomas Mozes wrote: I haven't tested it yet, however I like the minimalistic syntax. As an ansible user - do you plan to allow using default values for modules and/or variables? +1 for that. I'm also a happy ansible user

Re: [gentoo-user] Madly flickering display

2016-09-23 Thread David Haller
that your X doesn't find. -dnh -- "I'm nobody's puppet!"-- Rygel XIV

Re: [gentoo-user] SCIRE Project

2007-02-16 Thread José González Gómez
. What do you think? Will it work? Is it possible to rollback an update if something goes wrong? We're working on womething similar using catalyst [1] to create a custom livecd, quickstart [2] to automate installation of a basic working system from that livecd and puppet (already mentioned

Re: [gentoo-user] Managing multiple systems with identical hardware

2013-09-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
with only two realistic options: go to every machine and configure it there directly, or put individual per-host configs into puppet and push. It comes down to the same thing, the only difference is the location where stuff is stored. I'm sure I will need to carefully define those config

Re: [gentoo-user] Managing multiple systems with identical hardware

2013-09-30 Thread Grant
hard to describe in text how puppet gets the job done, so much easier to do it for real and watch the results) Puppet seems like overkill for what I need. I think all I really need is something to manage config file differences and user accounts. At this point I'm thinking I shouldn't push packages

Re: [gentoo-user] using git to track (gentoo) server configs ?

2014-03-25 Thread yac
? Does anyone of you already use something like that? What would be a proper and clever way to do that? Yes, I know, there is puppet and stuff ... but as far as I see this is overkill for my needs. I'd like to maintain some good and basic /etc, maybe plus /var/lib/portage/world and /root/.alias

[gentoo-user] Re: Ansible, puppet and chef

2014-09-16 Thread James
Alec Ten Harmsel alec at alectenharmsel.com writes: We use bcfg2, and all I can say is to stay away. XML abuse runs rampant in bcfg2. From what I've heard from other professional sysadmins, Puppet is the favorite, but that's mostly conjecture. Hi Alec! Anyone here used ansible What

[gentoo-user] [Extremely OT] Ansible/Puppet replacement

2015-01-26 Thread Alec Ten Harmsel
Hi, I've been working on my own replacement for Bcfg2 - bossman[1] - over the past few months, and it's finally ready to be released in the wild. I would be honored if anyone on this list who's thinking of trying puppet, chef, ansible, bcfg2, etc. would try out bossman instead. bossman has

Re: [gentoo-user] [Extremely OT] Ansible/Puppet replacement

2015-01-27 Thread Tomas Mozes
On 2015-01-26 16:30, Alec Ten Harmsel wrote: Hi, I've been working on my own replacement for Bcfg2 - bossman[1] - over the past few months, and it's finally ready to be released in the wild. I would be honored if anyone on this list who's thinking of trying puppet, chef, ansible, bcfg2, etc

Re: [gentoo-user] another old box to update

2015-01-08 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
for that posting, it reminds me of some bigger issue I wanted to discuss here for quite a while now. Over the years I am now responsible for dozens of servers and VMs running gentoo linux ... and I wonder how to efficiently keep track of them. I learned my first steps with puppet and use it in a basic

Re: [gentoo-user] another old box to update

2015-01-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
issue I wanted to discuss here for quite a while now. Over the years I am now responsible for dozens of servers and VMs running gentoo linux ... and I wonder how to efficiently keep track of them. I learned my first steps with puppet and use it in a basic setup for my own machines in my LAN

[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo for many servers

2009-11-15 Thread Andreas Niederl
ssh $h yum install foo; done' approach. You could have a look at app-admin/puppet [1][2] which supposedly takes car of these things. [...] Now I am thinking about a Gentoo installation instead. Pros: - Continuous updates, no downtime for upgrading, only when I decide to install a new

Re: [gentoo-user] Managing multiple systems with identical hardware

2013-10-01 Thread Grant
hard to describe in text how puppet gets the job done, so much easier to do it for real and watch the results) Puppet seems like overkill for what I need. I think all I really need is something to manage config file differences and user accounts. At this point I'm thinking I shouldn't push

Re: [gentoo-user] How to create my own linux distribution

2006-07-24 Thread Jose Gonzalez Gomez
. I think you should take a look at:http://www.reductivelabs.com/projects/puppet/index.htmlhttp://www.cfengine.org/ Best regardsJose

Re: [gentoo-user] core i5

2010-06-23 Thread kashani
amount of rpm building, svn to git with large trees, kickstart, Mysql, and Puppet work at a job a few months ago which was hitting the host fairly hard. Between the above and Outlook getting an extra drive to isolate the host OS from the VMs was a requirement. Much smoother after that. kashani

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Lynx, Links, or Elinks?

2011-12-09 Thread David Haller
have shortcomings/quirks and advantages (e.g. when dumping html as text results vary and with what options you can tune the result). HTH, -dnh -- I'm nobody's puppet!-- Rygel XIV

Re: [gentoo-user] Managing multiple systems with identical hardware

2013-10-01 Thread Grant
Puppet seems like overkill for what I need. I think all I really need is something to manage config file differences and user accounts. At this point I'm thinking I shouldn't push packages themselves, but portage config files and then let each laptop emerge unattended based on those

[gentoo-user] using git to track (gentoo) server configs ?

2014-02-13 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
that? Yes, I know, there is puppet and stuff ... but as far as I see this is overkill for my needs. I'd like to maintain some good and basic /etc, maybe plus /var/lib/portage/world and /root/.alias (etc etc ..) to be able to deploy a good and nice standardized gentoo server. Then adjust config

Re: [gentoo-user] NFS tutorial for the brain dead sysadmin?

2014-07-27 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
puppet here to manage my systems ... and one part of this might be sharing /usr/portage via NFSv4. One client host mounts it without a problem, the thinkpads don't do so ... just another example ;-) Additional in my context: using systemd ... so there are other (different?) dependencies at work

Re: [gentoo-user] Ansible, puppet and chef

2014-09-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 17/09/2014 14:46, Tomas Mozes wrote: On 2014-09-17 10:08, Alan McKinnon wrote: That's almost exactly the same setup I have in mind. How complex do the playbooks get in real-life? The common role has about 70 tasks. It does almost everything covered in the handbook plus installs and

[gentoo-user] Re: [Extremely OT] Ansible/Puppet replacement

2015-01-28 Thread James
Alec Ten Harmsel alec at alectenharmsel.com writes: Assuming that disks are formatted, a stage3 has been freshly extracted, bossman is installed, and the role/config files are on a mounted filesystem, it should be similar to the role below: I think the list needs to be expanded, generically

[gentoo-user] Re: [Extremely OT] Ansible/Puppet replacement

2015-01-27 Thread James
Alec Ten Harmsel alec at alectenharmsel.com writes: I'm sorry to spam gentoo-user, but I'm not sure who else would be interested in something like this. Also, feel free to email me with bugs in the code or documentation, or open something in GitHub's issue tracker. One man's spam generates

Re: [gentoo-user] another old box to update

2015-01-07 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
. Over the years I am now responsible for dozens of servers and VMs running gentoo linux ... and I wonder how to efficiently keep track of them. I learned my first steps with puppet and use it in a basic setup for my own machines in my LAN. It seems to work better for many identical servers, let's

Re: [gentoo-user] Again a small embedded arch problem with Gentoo

2015-11-29 Thread Alec Ten Harmsel
On 2015-11-29 06:57, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, two "identical" (better read: expected to be identical... ;) Just a quick suggestion - you should use ansible or puppet to keep them in sync. Arietta G25 tiny embedded systems have a Gentoo installed each. Both are upda

Re: [gentoo-user] Again a small embedded arch problem with Gentoo

2015-11-29 Thread Meino . Cramer
Alec Ten Harmsel <a...@alectenharmsel.com> [15-11-29 13:16]: > > > On 2015-11-29 06:57, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > >Hi, > > > >two "identical" (better read: expected to be identical... ;) > > Just a quick suggestion - you should use ansible

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Java 8 and remote access

2016-02-02 Thread Thomas Sigurdsen
nstall your own OS? > > BTW since Java is a VM I'm surprised there is no service that lets you just > upload a Java app and run it remotely on the service without any OS > management. Am I missing anything there? > > - Grant > linode.com and kimsufi.com lets you install

Re: [gentoo-user] Hows this for rsnapshot cron jobs?

2013-04-22 Thread Alan McKinnon
, rsnapshot handles this. And, more as a nitpick than anything else, I always recommend that when a sysadmin adds a root cronjob, use crontab -e so it goes in /var/spool/cron, not /etc/crontab. Two benefits: - syntax checking when you save and quit - if you let portage, package managers, chef, puppet

Re: [gentoo-user] Managing multiple systems with identical hardware

2013-09-30 Thread thegeezer
for how it all hangs together (it's hard to describe in text how puppet gets the job done, so much easier to do it for real and watch the results) Puppet seems like overkill for what I need. I think all I really need is something to manage config file differences and user accounts. At this point

Re: [gentoo-user] Recommendations for scheduler

2014-08-03 Thread Bruce Schultz
in ideals to puppet and chef? I don't want to deploy code or manage state, I want to run code (backups, database maintenance, repair of dodgy data in databases and code publish in a devops environment) Cfengine can run arbitrary commands at scheduled times, so it is capable as a replacment for cron

[gentoo-user] Biggest Fake Conference in Computer Science

2013-04-12 Thread nelsonsteves
of that money (around 20 dollars per paper published in WORLDCOMP’s proceedings) to his puppet (Mr. Ashu Solo or A.M.G. Solo) who publicizes WORLDCOMP and also defends it at various forums, using fake/anonymous names. The puppet uses fake names and defames other conferences to divert traffic to WORLDCOMP

Re: [gentoo-user] Managing multiple systems with identical hardware

2013-10-01 Thread Alan McKinnon
for how it all hangs together (it's hard to describe in text how puppet gets the job done, so much easier to do it for real and watch the results) Puppet seems like overkill for what I need. I think all I really need is something to manage config file differences and user accounts. At this point

Re: [gentoo-user] Managing multiple systems with identical hardware

2013-09-27 Thread Grant
type of laptop and a server. Maybe puppet could help with that? It would almost be like my own distro. Some laptops would have stuff installed that they don't need but at least they aren't running Fedora! :) DO NOT PROVISION GENTOO SYSTEMS FROM PUPPET. OK, I'm thinking over how much variation

Re: [gentoo-user] Managing multiple systems with identical hardware

2013-09-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
for how it all hangs together (it's hard to describe in text how puppet gets the job done, so much easier to do it for real and watch the results) Puppet seems like overkill for what I need. I think all I really need is something to manage config file differences and user accounts

Re: [gentoo-user] How to create my own linux distribution

2006-07-24 Thread Matthew R. King
, with tweaks that deal with where updates come from, and what packages are availble, etc. Gentoo or Debian are the two likely candidates. I'm not *sure* a customized distribution is appropriate. I think you should take a look at: http://www.reductivelabs.com/projects/puppet

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] (A nice illustration of Gentoo)

2012-02-16 Thread m...@trausch.us
tree. What I really ought to be doing is looking at Portage way closer than I do as an everyday user. I just want to be absolutely sure that I don't break anything on a server when I update. But since I have recently learned about and started learning Puppet, I think I might have a much easier time

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update : how to keep it going?

2012-12-02 Thread Alan McKinnon
] the command is emerge world not emerge the-bits-of-world-you-think-you-can-deal-with If portage cannot emerge world and fully obey what root told it to do, then portage correctly refuses to continue. It could not possibly be any other way, as eg all automated build tools (puppet, chef and friends

Re: [gentoo-user] Hows this for rsnapshot cron jobs?

2013-04-21 Thread Tanstaafl
, I always recommend that when a sysadmin adds a root cronjob, use crontab -e so it goes in /var/spool/cron, not /etc/crontab. Two benefits: - syntax checking when you save and quit - if you let portage, package managers, chef, puppet or whatever manage your global cronjobs in /etc/portage

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} backups... still backups....

2013-07-01 Thread Neil Bothwick
could see sacrificing some security for convenience. Still I would think you could use something like puppet to have the best of both worlds. I have 5 machines and I think I can get it down to 3. There is no sacrifice, you are running rsync as root on the client either way. Alternatively, you

Re: [gentoo-user] Managing multiple systems with identical hardware

2013-09-30 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 09:31:18PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: (or big chunks of it) over to your other workstations. Puppet seems like overkill for what I need. I think all I really need is something to manage config file differences and user accounts. At this point I'm thinking I

Re: [gentoo-user] What's with foomatic-filters and cups-filters?

2014-06-12 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
. And the GUI gives no clue to that cause of failure. -- Gruß | Greetings | Qapla’ Please do not share anything from, with or about me on any social network. “I want to be free!” said the string puppet and cut its strings. signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Recommendations for scheduler

2014-08-01 Thread Alan McKinnon
what will happen when and what the environment looks like. So basically I need something to replace bash and cron the same way puppet replaces scp and for loops -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Recommendations for scheduler

2014-08-03 Thread Alan McKinnon
for the reply. I only worked with cfengine once, briefly, years ago, and we quickly decided to roll our own deployment solution to solve that very specific vertical problem. Isn't cfengine a deployment framework, similar in ideals to puppet and chef? I don't want to deploy code or manage state, I

Re: [gentoo-user] [Extremely OT] Ansible/Puppet replacement

2015-01-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 27/01/2015 19:49, Alec Ten Harmsel wrote: On 01/27/2015 11:33 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 27/01/2015 10:49, Tomas Mozes wrote: I haven't tested it yet, however I like the minimalistic syntax. As an ansible user - do you plan to allow using default values for modules and/or variables?

Re: [gentoo-user] [Extremely OT] Ansible/Puppet replacement

2015-01-27 Thread Alec Ten Harmsel
On 01/27/2015 03:49 AM, Tomas Mozes wrote: I haven't tested it yet, however I like the minimalistic syntax. Thanks. Testing is kind of a high barrier; it took me hours to write a role for jenkins. As an ansible user - do you plan to allow using default values for modules and/or variables?

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Java 8 and remote access

2016-02-03 Thread J. Roeleveld
gt; > management. Am I missing anything there? > > > > - Grant > > linode.com and kimsufi.com lets you install gentoo. There might be many > more. Yes, plenty. It depends where you need them to be located. > You might want to look into something like cfengine, puppet

Re: [gentoo-user] Managing multiple systems with identical hardware

2013-10-01 Thread joost
in that sandbox. You'll quickly get a feel for how it all hangs together (it's hard to describe in text how puppet gets the job done, so much easier to do it for real and watch the results) Puppet seems like overkill for what I need. I think all I really need is something to manage config file

Re: [gentoo-user] Cross system dependencies

2014-06-29 Thread J. Roeleveld
on thednsserver which just runs # ssh postfixserver '/etc/init.d/postfix start' or... puppet and it's kin Last time I looked at puppet, it seemed too complex for what I need. I will recheck it again. Thanks, Joost

Re: [gentoo-user] Odd portage / eix behavior

2008-08-09 Thread Eric Martin
~x86 app-admin/puppet~x86 dev-ruby/facter ~x86 media-tv/mythtv ~x86 Portage is 2.1.4.4 which my other computers are running. This was my local rsync mirror that sync'd every two days and my other machines sync'd off of it. This is actually

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update : how to keep it going?

2012-12-02 Thread kwkhui
to continue. It could not possibly be any other way, as eg all automated build tools (puppet, chef and friends, even flameeyes's sandbox) break horribly if you do it any other way. Life is hard enough dealing with build failures without adding portage do somethign different to what it was told

Re: [gentoo-user] Hows this for rsnapshot cron jobs?

2013-04-21 Thread Alan McKinnon
of date snapshots. And, more as a nitpick than anything else, I always recommend that when a sysadmin adds a root cronjob, use crontab -e so it goes in /var/spool/cron, not /etc/crontab. Two benefits: - syntax checking when you save and quit - if you let portage, package managers, chef, puppet

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} backups... still backups....

2013-07-01 Thread Grant
think you could use something like puppet to have the best of both worlds. I have 5 machines and I think I can get it down to 3. It works well, save work and minimises disk space usage, especially with multiple similar clients. Preventing infiltration is simple as you don't need to open

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} backups... still backups....

2013-07-01 Thread Grant
for convenience. Still I would think you could use something like puppet to have the best of both worlds. I have 5 machines and I think I can get it down to 3. There is no sacrifice, you are running rsync as root on the client either way. Alternatively, you could run rsyncd on the client, which avoids

Re: [gentoo-user] NFS tutorial for the brain dead sysadmin?

2014-07-27 Thread J. Roeleveld
and frustration. Only last week I re-attacked this topic as I start using puppet here to manage my systems ... and one part of this might be sharing /usr/portage via NFSv4. One client host mounts it without a problem, the thinkpads don't do so ... just another example ;-) Additional in my context

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [Extremely OT] Ansible/Puppet replacement

2015-01-27 Thread Alec Ten Harmsel
On 01/27/2015 10:34 AM, James wrote: Alec Ten Harmsel alec at alectenharmsel.com writes: I'm sorry to spam gentoo-user, but I'm not sure who else would be interested in something like this. Also, feel free to email me with bugs in the code or documentation, or open something in GitHub's

Re: [gentoo-user] Managing multiple systems with identical hardware

2013-09-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
. Well, my goal is to minimize the number of different systems I maintain. Hopefully just one type of laptop and a server. Maybe puppet could help with that? It would almost be like my own distro. Some laptops would have stuff installed that they don't need but at least they aren't running

Re: [gentoo-user] Managing multiple systems with identical hardware

2013-09-29 Thread Grant
having access to the laptop in question. Every time we've brain-stormed this at work, we end up with only two realistic options: go to every machine and configure it there directly, or put individual per-host configs into puppet and push. It comes down to the same thing, the only difference

Re: [gentoo-user] Multiseat -- LTSP?

2012-01-30 Thread Grant
lighten the work needed?  http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/embedded/gnap-userguide.xml That looks cool, but from my perspective it's another layer to learn, install, configure, and manage. chef and puppet take a different approach to lessening the burden of administrating multiple systems

Re: [gentoo-user] Cross system dependencies

2014-06-28 Thread thegeezer
/ depends on thednsserver which just runs # ssh postfixserver '/etc/init.d/postfix start' or... puppet and it's kin

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Custom ebuilds for CoreOS

2014-12-02 Thread Rich Freeman
scripts that get signed and dated like it is still the 80s. It isn't Walmart-type work primarily because it is so error-prone we always need people to fix all the stuff that breaks. My LUG meets at a mid-sized VoIP company that uses the likes of Puppet/Chef for everything and I'm sure Docker

[gentoo-user] Re: CI Continuous Integration

2014-12-17 Thread James
to be firmly in either camp; but more in the conventional distro camp. What I did find interesting is lots of corporations are running on hundreds of gentoo systems and using (chef, puppet, ansible or salt) to ease the management of large gentoo deployments. It's just nice to know that despite what

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Project:Installer

2015-07-25 Thread Bruce Schultz
is. The 3rd task is more in the realm of tools such as ansible or puppet. Having that said, and having done few Gentoo installations: I'm merely wishing installing Gentoo wasn't such a lengthy process. It's lengthy in that you have to do the steps manually while browsing the excellent handbook

[gentoo-user] --depclean won't work anymore.

2008-11-22 Thread Dale
upgrades, 5 new, 1 in new slot, 879 reinstalls), Size of downloads: 94,583 kB Fetch Restriction: 1 package Then again, emerge -evp does show 5 new packages. I'm like that little puppet of Jeff Dunham's, 'what the he**'? Maybe I need to go back a version of portage. LOL Thoughts? I say thoughts

Re: [gentoo-user] --depclean won't work anymore.

2008-11-22 Thread Chris Thomas
slot, 879 reinstalls), Size of downloads: 94,583 kB Fetch Restriction: 1 package Then again, emerge -evp does show 5 new packages. I'm like that little puppet of Jeff Dunham's, 'what the he**'? Maybe I need to go back a version of portage. LOL Thoughts? I say thoughts cause I'm not sure

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