I based my VM tests on these instructions: http://agnipulse.com/2009/07/boot-your-usb-drive-in-virtualbox/
with Strawberry you can let it plain boot, and it goes fine,( maybe it's better you first boot a newly created stick the normal way for the first time... ) I think this feature of VB is not available on mac now... ciao carlo (F) --- Mar 20/10/09, Dave Bauer <dave.ba...@gmail.com> ha scritto: > Da: Dave Bauer <dave.ba...@gmail.com> > Oggetto: Re: [SoaS] [Marketing] installation fear, was Re: Governance & > Trademark in the Wiki > A: "Carlo Falciola" <cfalci...@yahoo.it> > Cc: market...@lists.sugarlabs.org, soas@lists.sugarlabs.org > Data: Martedì 20 ottobre 2009, 12:54 > On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 6:48 AM, > Carlo Falciola <cfalci...@yahoo.it> > wrote: > > Sean, Martin, > > Recently I started playing with VirtualBox in order to > get a "standard" SOAS usb bootable key to boot into an > "empty" VM in VirtualBox. > > This is different from a livecd in sense you get > persisten updates and your stik could always be booted in > other systems... > > VirtualBox supports, at least in Linux & Windows > the feature to define virtual bootable disk that belongs to > a USB stick. > > > > So now I've a generic VM that when started by VB look > for an USB Bootable Stick attached to a running windows > machine and start it > > Till' now it works for me with Strawberry & the > latest Soas2.iso. > > > > I actually followed instructions I found on the web > (there shoud be a message to sugar-devel list about it) > > > > The solution is definitely not ready for primetime, > and should be tested a lot, but right now is it possible > to: > > 1. Manually install VirtualBox > > 2. Get the VirtualMachine (containing the "special > Virtual Disk") > > 3. Stich the Strawberry in the running host > > Can you describe this step in some more detail? > Right now as I understand it, on Linux and Windows Hosts > you can hit > F12 (if you are very fast) to open the boot menu or also > quickly open > the USB menu at the bottom of the screen and activate the > selected USB > device. You can't boot from USB on OS X for some reason so > I have > created a boothelper VM which looks for a USB stick named > Fedora. On > OS X I have been able to automate this to umount the USB > from the host > OS, and attach it to the running VM so the use potentially > just has to > plug in the stick and make one click on an application > icon. > > Dave > > > 4. start the VM > > 5. Enjoy your Sugar Stick (with persistent storage in > the stick, networks, (dunno about audio, but it should work > either)! > > > > I think some of those steps could be simplyfied... > > > > Latest note : I'm not shure that a "Portable" > VirtualBox it's doable because VB creates virtual net > interface I'm not shure that ccould be done on the fly. > > > > Could this approach helps? > > > > ciao > > > > carlo (f) > > > > On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 9:07 PM, Douglas McClendon > > <dmc.sugar at filteredperception.org> wrote: > >> Sean DALY wrote: > >> > >>> You've mentioned how the website could be > improved - the "fine print". > >>> When you look at the Sugar on a Stick page, > what do you think it could > >>> express better to guide inexperienced users? > The single biggest > >>> barrier we face is installation fear - this is > how Windows keeps its > >>> marketshare (with help from proprietary file > formats), and why > >>> GNU/Linux desktops have so much difficulty > breaking out. Sugar on a > >>> Stick sidesteps the problem by not touching > the hard disk, but does > >>> indeed require system-specific BIOS fiddling. > >> > >> In response to this, and DancesWithCars autorun > html point, I can see > >> possible progress in this direction- > >> > >> a) autorun html. Simple to add technically. > I'd opt for pure open > >> source but possibly less compatable simple autorun > technique, as opposed > >> to using the various less-free and often closed > source autorun helpers. > >> > >> b) the content of the html to be autoran- > obviously the sky is the > >> limit, and something marketing is particularly > suited for. To the > >> extent that technical information should be > contained, there is the > >> LiveDistro wikipedia page, which would be > included, as well as a layer > >> above it translated/shrunk into a quickstart > version targeted at average > >> parents/teachers. > >> > >> c) other low hanging fruit windows FOSS. Firefox > seems worth it if > >> you've got the space. But more importantly qemu, > or whatever the best > >> open source windows virtualization solution is > (qemu/virtualbox/?). > >> I.e. the webpage should include simple > instructions for launching that > >> virtualizaiton targeted at the CD/USB that > contains it. > >> > > > >>Virtualbox could allow a pretty good in-Windows > experience. With > >>seamless mode it runs in an OS window. We can > automate the startup so > >>a Sugar appliance starts up with one click. The > trick is getting > >>permission to bundle an installer with virtualbox > and the sugar > >>appliance. I think one would have to ask Sun for > permission to do > >>this. > >> > >>You could do this also with OS X and Linux although > each needs a > >>seperate installer. > >> > >>Dave > >> > >>-- > >>Dave Bauer > >>dave at solutiongrove.com > >>http://www.solutiongrove.com > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SoaS mailing list > > SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org > > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas > > > > > > -- > Dave Bauer > d...@solutiongrove.com > http://www.solutiongrove.com > _______________________________________________ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
