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Re: [STW2Chat] Unit 1

Bonita DeAmicis
Wed, 18 Jul 2007 19:17:34 -0700

Hi All,

LeeAnn and I would like to beef up our book talk so we are going to start 
throwing things around that interest us.  You may listen in on our banter or 
join in if you feel inclined:)  I am certainly no expert though I have been 
participating in this list for a while so it makes me feel like one sometimes:) 
I am a fifth grade teacher in a California suburban school.  I have written a 
few books, but none on reading comprehension.  

So, LeeAnn proposed some questions in her very first post that I will try to 
answer as best I can from my perspective.

Question: How do your students use written as well as other kinds of responses 
to show their evolving thinking?   

Answer: Hmmm.  This is still evolving for me as a teacher.  Initially, I used 
only post-its and got slim results.  Although last year with the use of the 
Comprehension Toolkit I got much better post-it results due, in part, to more 
specifically explaining what I wanted on them.

We, in my district, also use Susan Kaplan's differentiation for gifted 
students.  So, in addition to the strategies, we use icons that can provoke 
deeper thinking in our reading (and in other subjects).  As a result of this 
combination we (the teachers I work with) have developed a number of 
response-type charts/logs/andprojects to provoke both the use of strategies and 
the use of icons. Example: students might illustrate a scene from the reading 
and then they will place a "frame" around the scene that they use to write 
comments and thoughts...using both icons and strategies. Or we might write a 
general provoking question on the board and students will respond in logs in 
some open-ended way that uses strategies and icons.  

I cringed at the part in the book where the authors talk about dioramas, not 
that I do any.  But with my fellow teachers we have sometimes done projects of 
sorts, trying always to get the projects closer to the reading.  I have grown 
frustrated with such activities as they feel more closely related to the need 
to get a grade--to have a product, than they do to the actual learning from 
reading.  I, in the last two years, have moved more toward the use of 
discussion and conferences as the key components of reading assessment. I do 
like the ideas from STW about graphic organizers.  I do not believe I have 
taken best advantage of their use yet. Mind mapping would be an awesome way to 
have students track their thinking.  Can't believe I never thought of it before.

I really like using oral discussion and have improved at it over the 
years--especially since reading Eye to Eye (or is it Knee to Knee) and also 
Daily Five (not the same as the NCLB stuff). I also have taught students to 
tape conversations that I am not privy to, so that I can listen later--that has 
made me feel like book discussions are not just wasted time. I have not gotten 
these all the way to where I'd like them to be.  Every class it is a new 
adventure trying to make discussion productive and heartfelt.

Funny story.  The first time I started using tape recorders for group book 
talks was a few years back.  I introduced the idea to my students and explained 
why I was doing it and what I hoped to gain by listening to their tapes.  
Anyway, we began in five groups of six students and they taped, but it was SO 
LOUD.  I gave them maybe five minutes to talk before I announced it wasn't 
really working and we should try again when I can figure out a better room 
arrangement (understand--I am pretty sensitive to sound because I work in open 
pod architecture so my students can be heard easily by three other classrooms). 
 I took the tapes home, laughing about my feeble attempt and bemoaning that it 
did not work.  I turned the first tape on so my husband and I could laugh at my 
idiocy and then we listened to five minutes of the best book conversation you 
could imagine!  he said to me, "Those are fifth graders?" Apparently, the noise 
in the room did not disturb my students. That was when I became committed to 
using tapes.  I cannot always listen to all of them, but I use them nonetheless.

So, how about you, LeeAnn--how do you use written or other responses to show 
thinking?

:)Bonita


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