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Re: [STW2Chat] [stwChat] Chapter 9-Visualizing and Inferring

Beverlee Paul
Tue, 31 Jul 2007 16:50:19 -0700

I strongly agree with you both.  Just relate it to a strategy discussion.  
In my way of thinking, "hope" doesn't communicate the synthesis of concepts. 
  It doesn't make the synthesis visible.  A single word may IMPLY something 
perhaps, but in order to make the theme explicit, you would need an entire 
sentence to describe how you've synthesized some of the concepts.  That 
would be something such as "Hope helps people through difficult times," or 
"The products a farm produces depends on the geography of the region in 
which the farm is located."  Only then would it be a theme as I understand 
thematic instruction.

As a matter of fact, I've heard/read experts in integration say that 
something that can be described in a single word is sometimes/often a topic 
or a motif.  Now, admittedly, they're thinking more in the line of Farms or 
Tropical Rain Forests or Pioneers or Teeth or Stuffed Animals, not something 
like Hope.  But it seems a pity to not know or state what we want children 
to take from what they're reading.  In my viewpoint, that's one of the 
strengths of curriculum mapping.  If a teacher cannot provide an essential 
question, she probably doesn't know where she's going, why she's going 
there, and how she's going to get there.  And strategy instruction would be 
a definite vehicle.  You kind of have to pull back your "camera" and take a 
panorama view to get the whole picture.  Debbie Powell and Dick Needham 
calls them "big understandings," and others call them other things, but I 
think Essentials Questions goes to the heart of the issue.

If Hope is a theme, does it include both "Hope helps people through 
difficult times," and "Hope is misplaced when children are taken to Mexico 
so alternative medicine can cure them of leukemia"?  Without a sentence, how 
would you know what the theme was?  Even huge words like Hope, or maybe 
especially huge words like Hope, are multi-dimensioned and hold a multitude 
of themes.

I'm still thinking, too.  However, right now I think she'd be in a decided 
minority of people who considered themes as being one word concepts.

Bev

I agree with you, Bonita.  I was at the Reading is Thinking workshop with 
Stephanie Harvey last week and she showed a video of 8th graders.  The way 
she explained theme is with one word... like hope.  That's not the way I 
learned theme as an English major.  The theme (and there can be many in one 
book) must be expressed in a sentence.  For example, "Hope helps people 
through difficult times."

I was frustrated, but there were about 300 of us at the workshop, and I 
didn't feel as it was the appropriate place for a discussion.


-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Bonita DeAmicis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 >
 > My last comment for now on this chapter is one where I vary from the 
authors,
 > although I am thinking they are addressing it on an elementary level in 
this
 > book and so keeping it simple.  I feel like the coverage of "theme" in 
the
 > inference chapter is not how I see theme.  To me, what they are talking 
about
 > here is topic.  So on page 144 when they talk of students finding themes 
like
 > friendship, loneliness, courage--I think of these as topics that can lead 
to
 > themes.  The themes to me would be the messages the author sends about 
these
 > topics.  So I do have my students search for topics, but then we discuss 
the
 > author's message about the topic and we look for text evidence that hints 
at or
 > supports the message. It is a larger step in theme, but I find upper 
elementary
 > students can do this.

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