R Wall
Mon, 12 Jul 2010 16:23:16 -0700
Hi Linda, If you contacted the British Sundial Society I'm sure someone there will help you to design a sundial. Or ask here. http://www.sundialsoc.org.uk/ http://www.buildingconservation.com/directory/ad393.htm Roderick Wall. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Bailey" <rtbai...@telus.net> To: <sundial@uni-koeln.de>; <linda.r...@fastmessage.co.uk> Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 9:06 AM Subject: Re: Do the Police really object,to interactive 'Human Sundial' features? >I cannot believe or accept that the "Nanny State" has gone this far. In the > future overprotective society, will everything attractive be banned? Will > kids have to wear crash helmets and full protective clothing before > approaching the great attractor? > > I have not heard of any safety or nuisance problems on any of my public > sundial installations, both analemmatic sundials and those with pointed > gnomons. Well perhaps one. A client installed my vertical declining > designs > a little too low on the wall facing their deck and pool. They had to move > it > farther up the wall to keep well above harm's reach. This client is a > lawyer. > > Most of those who answered your note would be happy to provide design > information and not request a liability waiver or statements from the > police. If you have the land owners approval for the installation, go > right > ahead. > > Roger Bailey > Walking Shadow Designs > www.walkingshadow.info > > ps. When travelling, I follow the advice of Tony Moss and no longer carry > "instruments of math instruction" due to security problems. > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Linda Reid" <linda.r...@fastmessage.co.uk> > Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 11:20 AM > To: <sundial@uni-koeln.de> > Subject: Do the Police really object, to interactive 'Human Sundial' > features? > >> >> Dear Members of this 'Mailing List', >> >> I am a mosaic artist, based in the United Kingdom - and am currently >> working with a local Community Arts organisation on a project, plus >> one part of which is to be a proposed "Sunclock" ('Human' Sundial). >> >> We were intending to obtain a customized set of layout plans, from >> "Modern Sunclocks" (in Scotland) - but it seems that they require a >> 'disclaimer' letter from us, acknowledging that we fully understand >> all the implications of creating this feature in a public location. >> >> They directed us to a page on their website, which details what can >> happen - that specific page is: www.sunclocks.com/pics/fs-015.htm >> >> >> Those 'negative' aspects are outlined at the top of that page, and >> they also said that Planning Permission might not be approved - due >> to objections raised by local residents, plus 'Police' authorities. >> >> I then had a brief discussion with a local Police Community Liaison >> Officer, who said that he fully appreciates why "Modern Sunclocks" >> were just being honest with us - plus that some interactive public >> features would be likely to attract 'undesirable' people, who "take >> it over" as theirs (so discouraging people who we want to use it). >> >> >> Is this really true, that what we think should be a very colourful, >> functional and interactive 'Human' Sundial - will eventually become >> a feature which actually the local population do NOT want to have? >> >> "Modern Sunclocks" were very helpful - and said that they could sell >> three times as many sets of plans, if only they did not have to warn >> customers about the 'implications' (based on many years experience). >> >> >> Do the members of this 'List' have any comments (good or bad), about >> installing such interactive sundials - since we do not want to go to >> the time and expense of creating this, if local people do not really >> want it. Most people said they would be happy, (although we did not >> mention any of those negative factors, when conducting short "market >> research" - because we were totally unaware of them, at that time). >> >> I shall very much look forward to receiving feedback, on the above. >> >> >> Sincerely, >> >> Linda Reid. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial >> > --------------------------------------------------- > https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.830 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3001 - Release Date: 07/13/10 02:49:00 --------------------------------------------------- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial