I think at this stage, the question should be 'does this make things
easier for people to use and implement, or does it make it harder?' -
the points being discussed are likely to be tested by implementation.
Certain of the points would require very little code to be changed to
switch between uses, and if there is an implementation issue or an
issue about semantics that other people might get worried about, then
this will be the point at which it will become apparent.

And if nobody aside from us cares one way or the other, then I think
we can prioritise the discussions around them accordingly.

Ben

On 4 February 2011 08:54, Richard Jones <rich...@oneoverzero.com> wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> Thanks for your extensive feedback on the various issues that we have
> been discussing on this list, it has been really valuable for the
> project team to get this input.  We have, we think, identified 3
> particular issues of contention:
>
> 1/ Whether the Statement should be embedded in the Deposit Receipt or be
> a separate document referenced in an atom:link element
>
> 2/ Whether to use OAI-ORE for the Statement format or an Atom Feed (as
> per CMIS and GData)
>
> 3/ How the client and server should negotiate over the format of the
> content returned by the edit-media link (EM-URI)
>
> The project team has gone through each of these issues carefully, and
> attempted to extract the simplest solutions but with a view to keeping
> the SWORD 2.0 specification quite open at this stage, so that community
> best practices can actually inform the standard itself in the long run.
>  Therefore, we're proposing the following approaches to these issues:
>
> 1/ Whether the Statement should be embedded in the Deposit Receipt or be
> a separate document referenced in an atom:link element
>
> If the Statement is to be embedded in the Deposit Receipt, then it needs
> really to be in OAI-ORE form, for the purposes of being clear foreign
> markup.  Nonetheless, bearing in mind that there is a question as to
> whether the Statement should be an Atom Feed, it is clear that this
> solution will not be adequate by itself.  We therefore propose that the
> standard provided to the project's funded developers to code against
> says that an OAI-ORE serialisation MAY be embedded in the Deposit
> Receipt (the Deposit Receipt will not be required to meet the OAI-ORE
> spec for being a resource map itself).
>
> Alongside - or instead - of this, there MAY be one or more atom:link
> elements in the Deposit Receipt which link to an external Statement.
> These atom:link elements can specify their type attribute to say whether
> they are an application/rdf+xml or application/atom+xml;type=feed.  It
> will be a requirement of the spec that there MUST be an embedded
> Statement or at least one separate Statement.
>
> Therefore, you may see a Deposit Receipt like:
>
> <atom:entry>
>        <atom:link rel="http://purl.org/net/sword/terms/statement";
>                type="application/rdf+xml" href="http://....."/>
>
>        <rdf:RDF>
>                <!-- ORE statement goes here -->
>        </rdf:RDF>
> </atom:entry>
>
> 2/ Whether to use OAI-ORE for the Statement format or an Atom Feed (as
> per CMIS and GData)
>
> Another good reason for the approach in (1) is that this means we can
> provide different Statement URIs with different type attributes.  We
> plan to ask developers to produce an ORE and an Atom Feed Statement
> format under the project funding.  So you may see a Deposit Receipt like:
>
> <atom:entry>
>        <atom:link rel="http://purl.org/net/sword/terms/statement";
>                type="application/rdf+xml" href="http://....."/>
>
>        <atom:link rel="http://purl.org/net/sword/terms/statement";
>                type="application/atom+xml;type=feed"
>                href="http://....."/>
>
>        <rdf:RDF>
>                <!-- ORE statement goes here -->
>        </rdf:RDF>
> </atom:entry>
>
> The combination of approaches in (1) and (2) may seem woolly or
> indecisive, but we believe that we can't determine in advance which of
> these approaches is better, and that it should be up to the community of
> users and implementers to decide which approach works best based on
> actual usage of the developed software.  Therefore, while the burden of
> implementation is placed on the funded portion of the project, we expect
> community driven implementations/usages to favour one approach over
> another (possibly taking into account things like compatibility with
> GData and CMIS, or preferring the more semantic web approach of ORE).
> We can then use this information later in deriving a SWORD spec which is
> based on best practices.
>
> 3/ How the client and server should negotiate over the format of the
> content returned by the edit-media link (EM-URI)
>
> The Content Negotiation issue arises from the fact that AtomPub requires
> at most one edit-media URI with a given type to be available in the Atom
> Entry (Deposit Receipt).  Since the SWORD server may contain multiple
> files rather than the one file that AtomPub assumes, what this EM-URI
> returns under GET is unclear.  We initially considered 2 approaches:
>
> a/      A separate HTTP header like Accept-Packaging to allow content
> negotiation on a package format
> b/      A separate HTTP header like Accept-Media-Features to allow general
> content negotaiton on feature sets
>
> As we discussed, both of these have pros and cons, and none of the
> approaches to doing this are marked by any best practices, which makes
> the project team unwilling to commit to anything too complex or
> substantial, at a risk to the simplicity and overall success of SWORD.
> Instead we are suggesting adopting a much simpler approach:
>
> The Deposit Receipt can contain already contain a sword:package element
> (as per SWORD 1.3), and SWORD 2 plans to allow an arbitrary number of
> such elements.  These elements will describe the packaging formats
> supported by the server, so the client will know in advance what the
> capabilities of the server are.  Therefore, instead of engaging in a
> content negotiation process, the client will just specify a separate
> HTTP header indicating what package format should be returned.  Whether
> this header re-uses the Packaging header used during deposit or
> specifies a new header has yet to be decided.
>
>
> Hopefully these approaches make sense to the group.  We are interested
> in how you think these will go down both during the project and beyond
> in the community, and if there are any obvious problems with what we're
> proposing here as the way forward for SWORD.
>
> All the best,
>
> Richard
> (On-Behalf-Of the SWORD project team)
>
>
>
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