Gudrun Polak
Wed, 24 Sep 2008 09:56:01 -0700
tabletweaving> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tabletweaving> List-Help: <http://hem.bredband.net/ronpar/twinfo.html> List-Owner: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Software: "Majordomo, version 1.94.3" List-Id: "Tabletweaving Mailing List" <tabletweaving.70052952.0499.x> Sponsored by TWIST - Tablet Weavers International Studies & Techniques Hi Peter,thank you for this analysis of what goes on when we turn our cards. I enjoyed reading page 79. The twist increase and esp. the twist decrease should be an important consideration for everybody who card weaves with singles.
My first example (one card with S-spun yarn, the next card with Z-spun yarn) does not really just apply to handspun yarn because you can get the effect by using identical yarn in all cards and turning some of them forward and some backwards. I have made a small bag where those kind of stripes are the major design element.
I still like to see what you get when you use two S-spun threads and two Z-spun threads in every card. We may have to wait for Denyse's pictures or I find two yarns that only differ in the spinning direction.
Reading page 79 lead me to some new questions which I will post in separate messages with the subject lines of "Ridges" and "Corkscrew".
Gudrun peter collingwood wrote:
Gudrun. You could take 4 S-plied threads and 4 Z-plied threads and twist them both in the same direction, making two 4 strand cords. I think this will show the difference between a "twist-on-twist" cord (bumpy irregular surface) and the more normal "twist-against-twist" cord (smoother surface). Former will try and untwist much more than latter, which tends to be more balanced. So this is the visual difference you would get if using this idea as stripes in a TW band. I know that page 79 in my TTW looks very dull (no pictures or diagrams !) but it was the result of much experiment in this field. There is, for example, an unexpected effect that a turning tablet has on the actual twist in the threads it holds. This means that a warp thread on near side and on far side of the tablet pack can acquire a (sometimes quitevisible) difference of twist.I suppose looking at any pre-1800 TW in a museum collection would givean idea about the type of hand-spinning originally used for warp yarn.Peter Collingwood
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