Hi Dan
I agree with you that we have to be careful to be cordial in the messages we
write on notes. Yes, this is not easy for new contributors to respond to the
notes, especially if they mainly contribute through smartphones. And
contributors should be careful in the messages they add on notes.
But the organizers should assure the interaction with the OSM community and
assure we can trace easily these edits for eventual corrections. if the edit
comment always contain a hashtag or a word such as nrcs, it should be easy to
trace the various edits.
Is Kathmandu Living Labs in the loop? They are quite experienced and could help
on this.
Pierre
De : Dan Joseph <dan.b.jos...@gmail.com>
À : talk@openstreetmap.org
Envoyé le : mercredi 21 juin 2017 17h51
Objet : Re: [OSM-talk] "NRCS basic OSM training" - low quality changesets in
Nepal
Hi,NRCS stands for Nepal Red Cross Society, so the people behind the edits are
part of the local community. The mappers would be local volunteers and may not
be comfortable responding to changeset comments that are written in English. I
would also guess that changeset comments were not part of the training. Errant
keys are relatively straight-forward to find and fix in JOSM. If the tag value
is legitimate local knowledge then a little bit of cleanup work is worth it.
Someone at the Nepal RC who does some GIS work is aware of the data quality
issues and working to fix it. Training people who have access to smart-phones
and computers and who regularly use map services can be a challenge. Training
people who don’t have such access is even more of a challenge. The time before
every edit is perfectly in line with the established OSM guidelines is bound to
be a bit longer. Changeset comments such as "It's likely we have to fully
delete it because it would take days to clean everything up by hand." when
talking about local knowledge added by locals seems against the spirit of
OSM.All the best,
Dan
On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 3:21 PM, Jan Michel <j...@mueschelsoft.de> wrote:
Hi,
I wrote some changeset comments as well as Michałs. None of the was answered up
to now, despite many new edits have been made by the users.
It's not just single mistakes, but they accumulate to a substantial amount of
data, here's just a small excerpt of what I found:
Key Occurences
addr:tole 127
Addr:city 19
addr: opening time 28
addr: place 24
Addr:place 35
godawari municipality 34
New keys are "invented" every day. I think something should be done soon as
cleaning this up is quite some effort. I wonder if there is somebody from the
local community available to help?
Jan
On 18.06.2017 23:42, Andrew Hain wrote:
Have you tried politely making changeset comments asking this?
--
Andrew
------------------------------ ------------------------------ ------------
*From:* Michał Brzozowski <www.ha...@gmail.com>
*Sent:* 18 June 2017 21:32:16
*To:* talk@openstreetmap.org
*Subject:* [OSM-talk] "NRCS basic OSM training" - low quality changesets in
Nepal
There has been a number of users making very low quality edits
(lowercase names, wrong tags. geometry problems among others) in
Nepal. They all use this mysterious changeset description: "NRCS basic
OSM training"
If this is training, then the instructor clearly has no OSM expertise required.
The mappers seem to make similar errors: misusing tags in addr:*
namespace, making up amenity=* tags, starting names from lower case.
Can we pin down who trains these mappers and demand them to stop and
take corrective action?
Michał
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