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Sat, 25 Dec 1999 01:39:09 -0800
Hello Frank Farance, On Thu, 23 Dec 1999 23:06:54 -0500 GMT your local time, which was Friday, December 24, 1999, 11:06:54 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Frank Farance wrote: Frank> The Bat somehow corrupts the registry when you select it as the default mailer. The following test should recreate the problem: Frank> 1. Install Eudora Light Frank> 2. Run Eudora so it asks "should I be your default mail program?". Answer Yes. Frank> 3. Install The Bat. Frank> 4. Run The Bat so it asks "should I be your default mail program?". Answer Yes. Frank> 5. Run Eudora again so it asks "should I be your default mail program?". Answer Yes. Frank> 6. Winodws will crash hard. Well, Blame a Mr Gates, Eudora, the Bat or yourself. specifying 2 captains on the ship is asking a bit for potential problems. Frank> It is difficult to fix the registry at this point. My solution is to exit from Windows to DOS mode and type: Frank> scanreg /restore Frank> Which can restore yesterday's copy of the registry. I'm not sure if this works on all Win98 workstations. I'm pretty sure it doesn't work on Win95 workstations. I've had no problem with Frank> Eudora and other mailers (Outlook, Netscape), so I think the problem is related to The Bat. By a restore you bring everything back as it was before you added things and it says nothing about whats to blame UNLESS you export registry before and after the mess and compare line by line. Frank> My configuration? IBM ThinkPad 770X with 320MB RAM, Pentium 300MHz, running Win98 (first edition). Resources are not a problem because you can recreate the windows crashing problem just after Frank> reboot. In which case problem can also be the thinkpad. IBM makes nice portables but like Compaq's they are a bit temperamental. (snip the complaints). Considering that acc to your banner you are an IT professional your test methods are a bit odd. That was the first thing I noted. Nobody with computer experience would consider one hour adequate to test ANY emailer and you obviously hadnt looked any further then the basics of the thing as most 'problems' you reported werent problems, just user lazyness... Sorry to say it ... This list IS useful, there Are bugs , lack of documentation and whatever but the program runs in general quite well. All of us have wishes of things to be fixed / changed. As with any program... If you ask for advice which isnt 20 points or whatever due to not spending enough time to try to use it, read the menus, why should you expect us to do that thinking work for you? Also, you post this on Eudora and you still got that damn line length set wrong! Frank> The people that create open source software have higher quality because everyone can fix things. This software should be open-sourced so that problems could get fixed. The application is Frank> very far from being mature. Sure, Eudora Light isn't perfect and lacks many bells and whistles, but it is *reliable*, it uses an *existing* file format, and for many people it is relatively Frank> easy to learn *basic* use (it can also do a reasonable job for filtering, address books, and fonts). I'm a software engineer for over 20 years, but I am choosing E-mail products for Frank> *non-technical* people (thus, interest in products like Eudora, Outlook, Netscape, The Bat). Any programs in use you can mention which are yours? And I like the comparison, of Eudora, Outlook, Netscape, The Bat... Frank> I'm sure many of you will send criticisms of my points, but you should take a serious look at the questions posed above (paragraph and bullets starting with "FYI") and the responses given over Frank> the E-mail reflector. I really think you should ask yourself (1) if those responses I've received are reasonable, and (2) if those responses would encourage wide-scale use of The Bat, just as Frank> Eudora has. This list isnt there to stimulate widespread use... Frank> I heard about The Bat because someone forwarded E-mail to me about a story in the Register. I think the Register should be listening to this discussion ... they might not be as gushing next Frank> time in their reporting. Donot worry, Mike Magee of the register was a shareware author himself... And he liked the Bat. Had NO problems in getting it to work... If you want I can send him your email as I happen to know him but I think his comments may be similar as ours! Frank> Finally, I'm *not* a big fan of Eudora, but I use it because it works. There are a bunch of little quirks, but mostly stuff I can live with. Because E-mail is critical to my business, I Frank> can't live with a buggy, hard-to-use problem like The Bat. Since I paid for The Bat, I'll probably keep it around to get at those occassional uuencoded files that Eudora doesn't handle well. You may find it very useful to export addressbooks out of corrupted windows... or get the mail out of Outlook/outlook express. I always have the bat with me as one of my recoverytools (g). Anyway, I would suggest you give theBat another chance, a bit more time. And if really none of the available emailers do for you, you can always write one and then make it open source.. Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.38e mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -------------------------------------------------------------- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --------------------------------------------------------------