You're right, you're nog to get the same level of convenience using a Mobile device with a Braille display, you're going to get an even better level of convenience not to mention an even better level of flexibility.

Yep, you have to download the Brailleback App from Google Play Store and enable that App before the Braille Display will be acknowledge.



On 26/06/2017 3:36 AM, Gordon Smith wrote:
That is an option, yes. But you’re not going to get quite the same level of 
convenience doing things that way. I am also given to understand, and I haven’t 
checked this, that you need to use BrailleBack with the Polaris to control and 
interface with a phone. With the Touch, that level of connectivity is in-built 
to KeySoft.


On 25 Jun 2017, at 17:30, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote:

And a forth choice actually, a mobile phone or tablet with a Braille display.



On 26/06/2017 12:26 AM, Gordon Smith wrote:
Yes, I totally agree about keyboard. All I was pointing out was that the 
option, and that’s the key word, “Option” doesn’t exist.

That said, I do agree that the Polaris is a very nice device and has excellent 
hardware specs. When it comes to note takers, however, we now have 3 choices. 
There’s the HumanWare one, (which I like, and use a lot), the Braille Sense 
Polaris, which I tried the other day, which I’m sure I would come to like a lot 
if I had the opportunity to use it extensively, and the ElBraille. I plan to 
buy an ElBraille for my business needs as tat would be the best all-round 
device for me. I do feel that both Hims and HumanWare kind of missed the boat a 
bit by not including an. Option for mobile communications. That is one area 
which EliTech Group has hit a winning note in my opinion.

All that said, were there an upgrade option on my Braille Sense U2, I would 
seriously consider that option.


On 24 Jun 2017, at 04:05, Debbie Yuille <debbiey1...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

But then you would  most likely have a fold down keyboard that is noisy like 
the touch's keyboard. The Polaris' keyboard is super quiet and in my opinion, a 
lot quicker to type on than using touch braille. That is why I prefer the 
Polaris. I like that we now have choice with our notetakers, one that's 
designed for touch braille and one that is designed for people who want a quiet 
and fast braille keyboard.

Debbie

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Subject: Re: [Techno-Chat]: Braille Sense Polaris: First Impressions

That is utterly the wrong approach. The Touch, for example, gives you the 
option. You don’t have to use the touch screen at all, but it’s there if you 
want too. The device is intended for the use of the vision impaired and the 
blind and, of course, the deaf blind. Like the Hims tablet, the Touch also has 
a vibrating motor which can be configured for events. And its touch screen is 
there for all. If you’re blind, you can toggle off the video output to conserve 
battery power, but even with the video disabled, you can still type on the 
touch screen and, optionally, still use gestures.

So I’m sorry, but I think that Hims has made a gross error of judgement there. 
Of course, it may be that the Samsung hardware on which the device is based did 
not easily lend itself to a touch screen. I think it’s a dreadful shame though, 
as with the inclusion of a touch screen it would have been a truly spectacular 
device.

Now, it is true that one can perform some touch gestures on the Braille display 
itself. So that may go some way to addressing the issue. I haven’t had the 
opportunity to try that aspect yet. But I’m sure I shall, and soon. But having 
played with the divide, in terms of its interface It comes a poor second in my 
opinion. In terms of specifications, it comes out the clear winner.

I need it to be understood that I am totally unprejudiced with these comments. 
I am not, as some people have accused me of being recently, a HumanWare man 
through and through. I’m just trying to be objective.

On 23 Jun 2017, at 10:37, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote:

I think the absence of a touch screen on a device may very well be a blessing 
for Hims Inc as not everyone is interested in a touch screen.

3GB of RAM is more than enough, though some of the newer Android devices have 
4GB - and some 6GB - 3 is still ample, my absolute minimum would be 1GB, the 
Neo Set Top Box I use has 2Gb and it speeds along most of the time but with 1GB 
you do notice things slowing down, another device I have - can't remember its 
name, its an Android Desktop computer - only has 1GB.

Obviously I've not seen one of these machines but I can tell you that I like 
stereo speakers on a device, they make the world of difference even when 
listening to spoken word.

Does the machine have any Bluetooth capabilities? It would be nice if you could 
stream audio from the unit to say a B&W T7, headphones, hearing instruments or 
similar.

Conversely it would be nice to stream to the machine from say another mobile 
device.

I like Chrome very much, I use it here on the Sony xPeria in the Android world 
and on the Windows PC.

I have to admit that - for me personally - I'm not at all interested in a Note 
Taking device with a Touch Screen, I'm thinking about the purchase of an 
ElBraille though I do like the Hims Inc way of doing things.

I had a Voice Sense a number of years ago and I do miss that machine in several 
ways though the software could no longer be updated so it was pointless keeping 
that device.

I sincerely hope Hims Inc have done some work in the Wireless connectivity 
department, on the Voice Sense the Wi-Fi was truly and utterly dreadful.

Anyway thanks for letting us know about the device.



On 23/06/2017 7:20 PM, Gordon Smith wrote:
Good Friday to you one and all

I've just spent a happy couple of hour teaching a client to use her new Braille 
Sense Polaris, whilst at the same time gaining an insight into the product 
myself.

Whilst the Polaris has some interesting facits, it isn't a device that's on my 
own shopping list, for a number of reasons. So, let me tell you a little about 
the device, and why I've formulated my opinions of it.

Firstly, like the Braille Sense U2, there is no touch screen on this tablet. I 
use that word very guardedly, for that very reason. Hims do call it a tablet 
though, so I guess I must also.

The Polaris has a very Braille Sense look and feel. It has 11 physical keys on 
the keyboard. One key is a Return key, and there are also control and 
Altogether keys, harping back to Windows. The device is powered by Android 5.1 
Lollipup. However, as the operating system evolves, so will the Polaris, to a 
degree. Some of the frameworks of Android are not yet updated for 
accessibility, which prohibits the same kind of rapid growth that we are seeing 
with Android.

As I was  saying. Their are 11 physical keys on the keyboard, plus 
touch-sensitive function keys which, again, resemble quite closely the Braille 
Sense U2.

The Braille display has 32 cells. Interestingly, the display itself has a 
Braille cell cover, protecting the display from dust and other possible harm 
whilst not in use. That is, I must admit, a very welcome a.ition.

For reasons best known only to her, my client did not bring her case with her. 
So I didn't get to see that. But I am given to understand that it is, like the 
U2, a nice soft leather case with reinforced plates where the controls are 
located.

The device looks almost identical to the U2. With the noteable exception that 
the LCD unit is flipable, enabling easy access for someone with vision.

The technical specifications ofthe device are very interesting. It has an 
Octa-core Samsung processor, clocked at 3.1GHZ. It has 3GB of RAM, and a 64GB 
flash disk. The SAID-XC card reader is just the same as that of the U2.

Network support is good. It supports the new ACCORDING dual-band
protocol, and is backward-compatible. It has the usual built-in software tools 
typical of the Braille Sense family, including electronic scientific 
calculator, word processor, UEB and Nemath compatible braille math support and 
a schedule manager. There is also the usual Contacts app, and all the other 
things you would expect of a Braille Sense.

I'm given to understand that all of the Sense tools have been re-written from the 
ground up, so they are not just ported from Windows Mobile. As I said earlier, the 
processor is a 64-bit Samsung Octa-core, <meaning it has 8 cores>, and one 
thing I will say is that it is us very very very fast!

It came out very favourably when I loaded a -plex PDF document into the reader. 
The rendering took just a fraction of a second. On the old U2, it takes upwards 
of 5 seconds to process the same ducument.

It directly supports wirless charging, has a USB 3.0 host port and can be charged 
wired using either it's own charger, <same charger as the U2>, or via the USB 
Micro client.
On the front of the unit are the same media keys that you'd find on the U2, and 
the media player is handled in the same way as the U2.

Needless to say, Google is fully supported, so it is possible to import all of 
the apps you'd find in the Play Store.

The stereo speakers on the device sound quite good. I only had a quick listen, 
as I spent most of the time first sejting it up for my client, then showing her 
around the device. For me, as somebody used to the Hims way of doing things, it 
took no learning time. That, for some reason, amazed my client. She expected 
that she's have to leave the device with me so that I could set it up for her. 
No need for that. I was also a# to import her own network profile, so she can 
go home and start using it right away.

The web browser is quite interesting. those who like Chrome will be pleased 
that learn that the Hims browser is just a modified version of Google's 
browser. Modified so as to enable accessibilyoung right out of the box.

In summary, whilst I'm looking forward to helping Claire familiarise herself 
fully with her new device, it is not a device that I personally will be 
considering. I still believe that the BrailleNote Touch, whilst lacking in some 
respects, is a better all-round Android device. My main reason for saying that 
is because the Touch adopts a much more main stream approach to tablet uie.

Whilst the Braille display itself supports multitouch gestures on the Polaris, 
I still like to be able to utilise the fully-fledged touch screen.

I hope to acquire an ElBraille shortly, so will give you my thoughts when I do 
on that device. I'd give the Polaris 7 out of 10. I'm sure Hims have their 
reasons for their apfroach. But it isn't an approach for me.

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