That would be great! I have a project that we could really use this for.
Best regards, +------------------------------------------+ | Richard Houston .^. | | R.L.H. Consulting /V\ | | E-Mail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> /( )\ | | WWW <www.rlhc.net> ^^-^^ | +------------------------------------------+ On Mon, October 17, 2005 10:36 am, Pete Helgren wrote: > Richard, > > > I'll see if I can get a site up with some info and with a download and > setup instructions. > > Pete > > > > Richard Houston wrote: > > >> Hey Peter, >> >> >> Your right, it is way more then just htmling the green screen, but in >> it's most basic form that is one of the things it can do. We had to do >> several labs at the tech preview I was talking about and I was able to >> get a bunch of the "cool" HATS features going and I am not a programmer >> at all. Licensing is not all that bad as well if you already are using >> WebSphere. >> >> >> For my client we are looking at just what web5250 is doing. Can I get a >> copy of the latest code and a quick how to set it up? >> >> >> >> >> Best regards, >> +------------------------------------------+ >> | Richard Houston .^. | >> | R.L.H. Consulting /V\ | >> | E-Mail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> /( )\ | >> | WWW <www.rlhc.net> ^^-^^ | >> +------------------------------------------+ >> >> >> >> On Fri, October 14, 2005 2:37 pm, Pete Helgren wrote: >> >> >> >>> Richard, >>> >>> >>> >>> HATS and Web5250 are a little different from one another. Web5250 is >>> more like iSeries Access for Web, which I finally saw at Common last >>> month in Orlando. Web5250 presents a "green screen" in a browser, >>> pretty much all. Now, iSeries Access for Web does a heckofalot more >>> than that, but basically, that is it. >>> >>> Screen shot like so: (I can't remember if they will display on the >>> list or not so I'll try it): >>> >>> >>> >>> That is really all the Web5250 is. >>> >>> >>> >>> I need to get a live link established and get my website updated to >>> show where this project is. But, the concept is 5250 in a browser. >>> HATS (I >>> think) is more "invasive" in the look and feel area. >>> >>> Pete >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Richard Houston wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Just wanted to chiming on this topic. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I was at a proof of technologies at IBM here on HATS >>>> http://www-306.ibm.com/software/webservers/hats/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> It basically turns the 5250 screens into pure HTML. The development >>>> env only works on windows right now which suck for m 400 based >>>> client as they run Linux on the desktop. Nice this about hats is >>>> that there is no code changes required on the 400 side. You can >>>> customize the layout and such as well so it can look nothing like >>>> your green screen apps at all. Kind of >>>> cool. >>>> >>>> I, personally, would like to see some sort of OSS version out there >>>> and I >>>> think this is what web5250 we aiming for. Maybe with enough effort >>>> web5250 could do the same. Just a thought. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Best regards, >>>> +------------------------------------------+ >>>> | Richard Houston .^. | >>>> | R.L.H. Consulting /V\ | >>>> | E-Mail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> /( )\ | >>>> | WWW <www.rlhc.net> ^^-^^ | >>>> +------------------------------------------+ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, October 14, 2005 9:48 am, Pete Helgren wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Thanks Wim. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> This sounds "exactly" like what I had in mind a couple of years >>>>> ago. Seems to me that the "mapping" concept would be fairly >>>>> straight-forward (probably a lot harder to do than it sounded...) >>>>> This >>>>> is very cool and Swing would be a good fit. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Have you looked at Java Server Faces at all? I saw a demo of a >>>>> JSF >>>>> app that looked very "Swing-like" but was all HTML and mostly a >>>>> server side implementation. I have been meaning to take a look at >>>>> it in more detail and see how difficult the coding is. The >>>>> JSP/Struts/Tiles >>>>> approach has always been too complex to me and JSF *seemed* to >>>>> simplify that. I need to take a look at it soon but it might >>>>> give you a richer-looking UI without the client side hassles of >>>>> Swing. Mapping >>>>> to JSF components might be a possibility. I'll look into it when >>>>> I >>>>> have a chance to see what you are doing. >>>>> >>>>> One other idea I had in the "screen scraping" area was a "static" >>>>> mapping option that would allow you to actually change the >>>>> component layout at the client end. Rather than doing the >>>>> transformation on the fly, you could create "map file" and use >>>>> that instead. Not sure how to implement that though. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for the information on the code pages and the good news on >>>>> the code page support in JT400. That should take care of it! >>>>> >>>>> Look forward to hearing more about the screen scraper.... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Pete Helgren >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hello Pete, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> great to hear some acitivity from this corner. >>>>>> >>>>>> The screenscraper works for one of our customers and is >>>>>> tailored to their screen layouts. Still have to do some bugfixes >>>>>> for them shortly, so I can send some screenshots on the list to >>>>>> give an idea to what it looks like. We were now discussing >>>>>> internally whether we were going to apply the scraper to our own >>>>>> screens, or build some kind of Swing gui components on top of >>>>>> the stream: a table for a subfile, a label for static text, a >>>>>> textfield for fields etc. The idea is to be able to build swing >>>>>> panels that read and write their data from the screen. The >>>>>> buttons and menu's would call function keys etc to do screen >>>>>> transitions and move to the next swing panel. What do you think? >>>>>> For us it is just to be >>>>>> able to quickly roll out GUIs until we find the time to >>>>>> reengineer the apps in full GUI apps. >>>>>> >>>>>> The 1200 codepage is provided in JT400. However I can not find >>>>>> the 1208. I wonder however if those are supported if they're not >>>>>> in de toolbox. Or are the numbers provider here not the AS/400 >>>>>> numberings? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> wim >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *Pete Helgren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* >>>>>> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 14/10/2005 15:41 >>>>>> Please respond to >>>>>> tn5250j-general@lists.sourceforge.net >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> To >>>>>> TN5250J List <tn5250j-general@lists.sourceforge.net> >>>>>> cc >>>>>> >>>>>> Subject >>>>>> [Tn5250j-general] Checking in on the project >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Gee....been kinda quiet around here. Must mean we are all >>>>>> gainfully employed and busy? >>>>>> >>>>>> A couple of questions (just to blow the dust of the list!): >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. Wim, a while back you talked about a screenscraper project >>>>>> you were involved in that used tn5250j components. Where are >>>>>> you on that? I'd love to know what you are doing in that area >>>>>> since I think tn5250j has some powerful tools in that would be >>>>>> useful. >>>>>> >>>>>> 2. Also, in general, how hard is it to add code page support, >>>>>> specifically for 1200 and 1208? There was a post in >>>>>> midrange.com from someone looking for an emulator that supported >>>>>> those code pages. I didn't see it in the list of supported code >>>>>> pages (not in JT400 either). >>>>>> I'd like to help this guy out if I could, I just don't know >>>>>> how difficult it is to support other code pages. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Pete Helgren >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> P.S. Kenneth are you out there ? 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