Ouch, that hurts ;-)




Richard Houston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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I would agree with Pete here.

The only thing I would like to have clarified is if mods and bug fixes,
done but hep/systems, would have to be give back to project. Even if not
it would be nice to have the fixes back and to be able to say a commercial
out fit officially contributing to the project. :)



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> Hello Pete,
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> As you explain LGPL, it seems to me that this is the way to go!
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> Pete Helgren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Wim (and all).
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> Sorry not to weigh in until now. I have been very, very busy. Hoping
> things will slow down a bit over the next 2 or three weeks so I can do more
> on the tn5250j stuff.
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> I am not a licensing expert but as I understand the LGPL, a company can
> integrate the java classes/jars (library is what the LGPL language says)
> into their application and can charge for the the application as long as
> they don't "charge" for whatever they use from tn5250j.  It is a fine
> line in my opinion but they still need to indicate in their copyrights
> that some of the application is dependent upon tn5250j and licensed under
> LGPL
> (if we go that way).  So they can use the tn5250j as part of their
> solution.  They cannot use any source from the project in their own code or
> build a derived application from tn5250j and charge for it.  They can only
> use complete "components" that are identifiable as such from tn5250j (like
> the protocolBean).
>
> What I don't know is that if they decide to enhance the tn5250j code are
> they obligated to contribute that code back to the project?  I *think* they
> are but I am not sure.  Where things get "fuzzy" is how to determine what
> "component" is being used.
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> No doubt some of the tn5250j code has found it's way into a commercial
> product or two already.  Not everybody plays by the rules.  But I think
> there is little risk in this approach.
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> In any case it speaks highly of what you guys have accomplished!
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> Pete
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> Hello all,
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> as I understood it, the people from Help/Systems were looking for a 5250
> protocol to embed into their product. Of course they will be charging
> their customers for this. As I interpret this, it's not a question of not
>  OSS'ing the project anymore, but establishing a licensing policy on the
> project that allows them to integrate it.
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> Kenneth Pouncey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> 14/12/2005 06:47
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> Matt
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> If you are on the list now here was a personal e-mail sent to me from one
>  of the people.  I ony copied pasted a part of the e-mail as there was
> some personal info and do not want to get him/her in trouble.
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> Could you maybe give some answers to the questions.
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> I want to open this conversation up and let everyone decide.
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> Sorry to put you in this but all the others that I have done this too has
>  backed down answering the questions in a public format.  You guys have
> been the most up front and honest so far which is why I have even
> considered it.
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> Regards
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> Kenneth
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> Email below:
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> Kenneth - -
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> Wow!!  No kidding!!  Help/Systems!!  MOST INTERESTING (yes I am
> shouting).
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> Since I am only a user, not a developer on this project, my 2 cents is
> from a different perspective.  My concerns are the life of the product. As
> you know and I have said repeatedly - tn5250j rocks!  Its great!
>
> I want it to survive as an oss product.  I would understand if the
> developers needed to generate a cash flow, as sad as that would make me.
>
> Do you know what Help/Systems is up to?  Are they planning on putting
> out the 5250 emulation and trying to charge for it?  Do they want to use it
> as an oss product?
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