Re: STP SCA Component -> STP SCA Tools sub project

[Simon Nash]

This proposal looks good to me.  I'd be happy to see the
Apache Tuscany project listed as an interested party.

  Simon

Stéphane Drapeau wrote:

Hi,

I created an entry [0] in the Eclipse bugzilla with the proposal.
Your comments are welcome.

Best regards

Stéphane Drapeau
Obeo

[0]: https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=225956

On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Stéphane Drapeau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

Haleh, Raymond,

Thank you for your answers.

Haleh, you're right. I make no distinction between tools for SCA
developers and tools for SCA users. The goal of the project is to develop
tools to help users of the SCA technology. I will modify my sentence.

Stéphane Drapeau
Obeo


On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 6:21 AM, haleh mahbod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi Stephan,

This looks good since it looks like tools for SCA will get more focus :)
I have a question.

You mention "the goals of the new sub-project are to develop a set of
tools for SCA developers and SCA users".

What is the difference between SCA developer and SCA user in this
context?

Haleh

On 4/2/08, Stéphane Drapeau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi Jean-Sebastien, Haleh, all,

The proposal is a 3 pages document describing the scope/intent of the
proposed project.

The outline is:
1. Introduction: the proposition of the transformation of the STP/SCA
component into a sub-project named SCA Tools under the top level

project

STP.
2. Background: presentation of STP + presentation of the existing

STP/SCA

component.
3. Description: the goals of the new sub-project are to develop a set

of

tools for SCA developers and SCA users. Another goal is also to link

this

sub-project with other components of STP (Service Creation, Policy

Editor)

4. Proposed components: SCA Domain Model (SCA meta model), SCA

Composite

Designer, SCA Composite Editors (tree, xml and form), SCA Integration
(integration with other STP components)
5. Relationship with Other Eclipse Projects: STP, EMF, GMF, M2M, ...
6. Organization: this sub-project will take place under the top level
project STP.
7. A list of proposed initial committers.
8. Code Contribution: the Eclipse STP/SCA component will be the

initial

code.
9. Interested parties: this section lists companies and communities

that

support the creation of the project. They don't take other

engagements.

10. Tentative Plan for 2008 and 2009.

Our goal is to identify formally the scope of the tools that we

develop

around SCA. The new status will provide some advantages.
- I think that the SCA tools will be more visible in the Eclipse

community

if we are identified as a sub-project.
- From the users point of view, it will not change anything.
- Concerning us, we should be more formal: clear roadmap, new features
described/discussed first in bugzilla, ...
- It will also present some advantages for Obeo by becoming a

sub-project

leader.

In the near future all STP components will become STP sub-projects. To
summarize, all of this is purely administrative.
I will send you the proposal document ASAP.
If you have any questions, don't hesitate.

Haleh, yesterday I sent you more information about the SCA Composite
Designer on the thread named "[Website] - Tooling for Java SCA". You

can

add
it on the web page. Tell me if you need more/different information.
My post describes what version of Tuscany can be used. I also

introduce a

tutorial that I made. This tutorial is based on the SCA designer and
Tuscany
1.1.

Best regards,

Stéphane Drapeau
Obeo

On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 8:05 AM, haleh mahbod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

wrote:

Hi Stephane,

Welcome to Tuscany. How will changing the status of STP SCA from a
component
to a sub project change its future development and focus?

Tuscany community had asked about tools for SCA and  because of that

I

recently added a website page [1] to collect more information about
available open source tools. I added a link to STP there.  It would

be

great
if you could provide more content about what is available and what

version

of Tuscany it works with.

[1]: http://incubator.apache.org/tuscany/java-sca-tools.html


Haleh

On 4/1/08, Jean-Sebastien Delfino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Stéphane Drapeau wrote:

Hi,

I'm Stéphane Drapeau from Obeo. I work on tools for SCA and I

lead

the

Eclipse SCA component which is a component of the STP project

[1].

Currently, I'm writing a proposal to change the status of the

STP

SCA

*

component* to STP/SCA Tools *sub project*.
I would like know if I can refer Tuscany community as interested

party

of

our proposal. It's purely administrative.
Jean Sebastien told me that the Tuscany community must vote on

this

issue.

So the discussion is open ;)

Thanks very much.

Best regards

Stéphane Drapeau
Obeo


[1]: http://www.eclipse.org/stp/sca/index.php

Hi Stephane,

Thanks for posting here, it'll enable the whole Tuscany community

to

get

involved in the discussion around your SCA editor proposal.

Can you tell us a bit more about the proposal? do you have an

outline?

Also can you help us understand what it means to be listed under
"interested parties" in such a proposal?

Any questions or thoughts from others on the list?
--
Jean-Sebastien

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