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Re: [Understand] Jen's post on struggling as a reader

Palmer, Jennifer
Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:27:20 -0800

Hi Ellin
You are so right about this being a life-changing experience. It has already 
been that kind of experience and I am just starting this doctoral program. Five 
years ago I would never have thought myself capable of what I am doing now.
 
Last summer when I read what you wrote about the outcome "confidence"... I had 
really just applied it to a particular topic that I might be reading or 
learning about. For example, if I felt confident talking about variability and 
standard deviations to our school psychologist now after reading about them and 
coming to understand them, that would be showing confidence. Are you saying 
this outcome applies more generally to ALL topics?
 
What I am trying to convey is a more general sense of intellectual efficacy. 
Perhaps a better way to describe it is a willingness or an interest in seeking 
out new intellectual challenges with a feeling that I will be able to handle 
them too. It kinda fits in with that cognitive stamina piece too but not 
exactly there either. Maybe it is the recognition that there has been an 
'intellectual" of sorts hidden inside of me that I hadn't realized was there. 
OR maybe it is what we want from kids...that high level of drive and engagement 
that brings kids back for more.
 
Make sense? Or am I missing the boat?  
 
 
Jennifer Palmer
Reading Specialist, National Board Certified Teacher
FLES- Lead the discovery, Live the learning, Love the adventure.
"Ancora Imparo." (Translation: I am still learning.) Michelangelo at 87 years 
of age

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Ellin Keene
Sent: Sun 11/30/2008 8:37 PM
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Subject: [Understand] Jen's post on struggling as a reader



I loved reading this post, Jen!  It's such a gorgeous discussion of where
strategies can lead. . . you talk about a sense of efficacy which, in the
list of outcomes, I refer to in the outcomes as:

"Show confidence - the ability to discuss and contribute to other's
knowledge about a concept" but I also hear the use of several other outcomes
in your post.  For example:

"Revise knowledge - forgoing previously held knowledge/beliefs in favor of
updated factual information" and

"Sustain - the willingness to sustain interest and attention to the
exclusion of competing or distracting interests" and

"Remember - the sense of permanence that comes with deeply understanding
something - the ability to use something you understand in a new situation"



Generally speaking the outcomes will be invisible and inaudible and the
dimensions will be visible and audible (behaviors).  This isn't always (or
consistently) true, but generally, we want to model the dimensions and think
aloud about the outcomes when teaching them to children.  Thinking aloud is
going to be the better way to make thinking permanent and modeling is going
to be the most effective way to "show" kids the behaviors (dimensions)
associated with understanding.  You definitely describe several of the
dimensions including fervent learning, dwelling in ideas, struggling, and
engaging in discourse.   I think if I had it to do again, I might move a
couple of the dimensions to the outcomes list and vice versa. . .



I'm actually very excited for you, Jen!  This is the kind of intellectual
exercise that changes one's life forever.  Thanks for sharing it with us.
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