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Re: [Understand] Chapter six?

suzie herb
Mon, 02 Feb 2009 14:13:29 -0800

>From one lurker to another......you need to 'patent' this comment because it 
>is esactly what the 'research' is going to tell us ten years from now.  

--- On Mon, 2/2/09, Ljackson <ljack...@gwtc.net> wrote:

> From: Ljackson <ljack...@gwtc.net>
> Subject: Re: [Understand] Chapter six?
> To: 
> Received: Monday, 2 February, 2009, 11:55 PM
> 
> As a lurker in this conversation--and as a teacher who
> knows the power of eavesdropping;-), I have to say that the
> primary discomfort I have with relying exclusively on levels
> in matching books to readers is that we seem to neglect the
> passion.  It has been my task, as of late, to review
> children who have 'flat-lined' as readers--children stuck in
> basic and below basic categories over the course of two or
> more years.  What I am noticing is that many, many of
> these children achieve a reading level of 20-24, as
> determined by DRA2 assessments, and then they level out,
> stuck in a holding pattern or one of only minimal
> acceleration (they may gain some levels across grades but
> only enough to hold the status quo). I find this trend
> alarming, because a child who attains that level of reading
> has already had so many doors opened to them--how is it,
> then, that they stop reaching for those open doors? Looking
> closely at the children, and having the opportunities to
> know their classrooms and their teachers, I honestly feel
> the difference is an utter lack of passion and interest. As
> a former classroom teacher, I certainly encountered some
> children over the years for whom that 'one book'  or
> that 'one topic' was elusive, and for just a couple, never
> found.  However, the case is more likely to be this, in
> my opinion based on informal investigation:  a failure
> of the classroom environment to foster passion (lack of
> books organized by topics, a focus on silence or moritorium
> (sp?) on book chatter, and often a teacher who has not been
> taught to look beyond the level of the book to see other
> types of supports--passion and prior knowledge, familiarity
> with an author or a series, sheer dogged
> determination.  I truly believe that the use of leveled
> readers provides teachers an important tool but that we have
> emptied the classroom tool boxes in some cases, and that
> when this is the only tool in the box, there will be many
> children left behind.
> 
> 
> Lori Jackson
>  District Literacy Coach and Mentor
>  Todd County School District
>  Box 87
>  Mission SD 5755
> 
> ----- Original message -----
> From: Janice Friesen <jani...@jfriesen.net>
> To: Special Chat List for \To Understand: New Horizons in
> ReadingComprehension\ <understand@literacyworkshop.org>
> Date: Monday, February 02, 2009  6:33 AM
> Subject: Re: [Understand] Chapter six?
> 
> > I am really curious about this question.  Now
> that SO much reading is  
> > done online it is harder to "level" the reading and
> find just the  
> > right sites with the right reading level for the
> kids.  A friend of  
> > mine with lots of classroom experience said that when
> she started  
> > using the Internet kids read what they were really
> interested in and  
> > that they stretched to read passages that she would
> have thought too  
> > high for them.  What do you experience with your
> classes?
> > 
> > Janice
> > 
> > > On page 149 Ellin argues for a more "moderate
> approach to book  
> > > selection."
> > > She says she understands how students who
> consistently read things  
> > > that are too
> > >  easy or too hard can lose interest in
> reading but also believes that
> > > readability  formulas are very limited in
> utility and do not  
> > > account for student
> > > schema and  interest. What are your views on
> book selection and how  
> > > do you handle
> > > this in  your classroom? What is your belief
> system and how do you  
> > > use what
> > > you believe  to make decisions about what
> reading materials you use?
> > 
> > Janice Friesen
> > jani...@jfriesen.net
> > 
> > "An adult can't expect to teach a 6 year old how to
> > swim without getting wet."
> > 
> > We can't expect to effectively prepare students for
> their future  
> > education,
> > career, civic and personal activities without fully
> embracing Web 2.0 in
> > schools.
> > 
> > Quote from Nancy Willard in email
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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