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Re: [UC] University City traffic nightmares

deeno7100
Wed, 01 Oct 2008 09:41:39 -0700

There's something about the 4-way stop sign at 49th and (Paschall?). The street 
between Kingsessing and Woodland right by the Septa facility. I don't know if 
it's the size of that intersection and the resulting long length of time it 
takes to get completely through it but there are always those akward "stop?then 
go, then?stop, then go ....?then SLAM the breaks and scream because the other 
person commits just as you commit" moments. That aspect, paired with the 
famous?"rolling stoppers" of Philadelphia,?makes for a lot of close calls.

Also, the bike riders are?mildly homicidal?in U.C.(from my experience). The 
most dangerous offense is when they?zoom between the parked cars and 
(specificlly the 34)?trolley as people are getting on/off, simply because they 
can fit through the narrow passage. Not sure why bike riders presume they are 
exempt from that one.


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Subject: [UC] University City traffic nightmares 



Friends and Neighbors:

?

The following was in today's DN.

?

It's been suggested that lots of us have items we might add to the list (the 
horrible left turn going north from University Ave/38th St onto 
Chester/Baltimore, coupled with the timing of the lights to actually get onto 
Chester or Baltimore at 39th Street?comes immediately?to mind).



?

Al Krigman
reminding you that you read it first, here, on the 
reminding you that you read it first, here, on the popu-list



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Letters: My University City traffic nightmares 
Philadelphia Daily News (9/29/08)

IWORK at 37th and Walnut. If there is a hell for drivers, it must be University 
City with the constant construction, vast number of pedestrians, trucks, taxis, 
buses and double-parking. 

Now, it seems, the city is on a mission to make things worse by adding more 
traffic lights, stop signs and no-turn-on-red signs. 

Some specific nightmare spots: 

31st and Spring Garden. About a year ago, the city put up a no-turn-on-red 
sign. The effect: long lines of idling cars on 31st Street burning up $3.75 a 
gallon gasoline. 

Spring Garden Bridge at the Art Museum. A new light went up last month. Result? 
More cars backed up on the bridge. Everything seemed to move well before the 
light. 

34th at Lancaster, at the 7-Eleven. Another new light. Trucks continue to block 
the right lane as they unload their deliveries to the store. With the new 
light, there is effectively only one open lane at the light. Traffic backs way 
up 34th. 

And let's not forget all the bike lanes our last mayor was so fond of, turning 
four-lane roads into two lanes. Again, lots of idling, polluting cars. When is 
the city going to do something to improve traffic flow in University City? 

Donald Kaufmann, Philadelphia








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