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Re: [UC] voodoo or cockfights?

Wilma de Soto
Thu, 23 Jan 2003 11:21:02 -0800

On 1/23/03 12:56 PM, "Brian Siano" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Wilma de Soto wrote:
> 
>> On 1/23/03 11:40 AM, "John Ellingsworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Will it affect me if I picked it up even if I don't believe in voodoo or
>>> Santeria?
>>> What about the disposal person?  Will they be affected?  Should an exorcism
>>> be performed on it?
>>> Or should we just leave it in the park?
>>> 
>> I realize you are being tongue-in-cheek here, but for adherents to these
>> practices, it is a serious matter.
>> 
>> Frankly, I cannot be certain if being a believer makes one more susceptible
>> but my guess would be yes.  In all probability this was an offering to the
>> Orichas, if you interfere with it, well...it's not a good thing whether you
>> are a believer or not.  The rule of thumb is that what you are not involved
>> with, let it be.
>> 
> I am completely out of sympathy with Wilma's comments. For one thing,
> this is a dead animal John found: regardless of whatever "ritual" was
> involved in leaving it there, it could become a health hazard. Corpses
> attract carrion-eaters, insects and parasites. Fleas vacate the corpse,
> and they gotta go _somewhere_. (n other words, at the very least, that
> corpse has to be disposed of.
> 
> And it's probably not a nice thing for a small child to discover,
> either. Let's say you left it there out of "respect" for whatever ritual
> you suppose was involved. So this dead, decapitated animal's laying in a
> park, and while you're congratulating youself on your tolerance for
> strange and colorful cultures, Mom brings out her pre-schoolers for some
> fresh air and maybe some wintertime activity on the swings. So not only
> do the kids _find_ this thing, but now they have to imagine that there
> are people in their neighborhood who _murder animals_ because they
> belong to some _weird religious cult_.
> 
> Look at it this way. Let's say that one of us found a decapitated
> rooster dumped not in Clark Park, but our front yard. I don't think any
> of us would think, "Well, it was probably one of those religious
> practices of one of those other cultures. After all, it's a place with
> shrubs and grass, it's a small patch of nature, and it was done as an
> offering to the Orichas." I think our first thought would be "Who the
> hell'd dump a dead animal in MY front yard?" And I think our second
> thought'd be "Is this some kind of bizarre _threat?_ Is someone trying
> to chase me out of the neighborhood?" And I think our third thought
> would involve filing a police report of some sort.
> 
>> I am of the opinion that all people's religious observances should be
>> treated respectfully whether or not I agree with them.
>> 
> It'd be interesting to see if Wilma'd extend such tolerance to, say, the
> Christian Identity movement.
> 
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I understand it's unnerving to say the least to find some dead animal in a
public setting.

However, seeing one that has been killed in a certain fashion that probably
brings to mind an animal sacrifice for some religious ritual, I for one
would not disturb it.  That's just me.

If you feel that you should move it , by all means do so.

As for extremist political movements cloaked as religious observances, you
are probably right that I would not hold the same reverence or respect.
Perhaps I am wrong but that is how I feel.

Wilma

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