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Re: [UC] voodoo or cockfights?

Wilma de Soto
Thu, 23 Jan 2003 11:46:30 -0800

On 1/23/03 1:43 PM, "John Ellingsworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> No respect for that crap here . . .
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> John Ellingsworth
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Knight, Sandra (US - Philadelphia)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'Brian Siano'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: January 23, 2003 1:21 PM
> Subject: RE: [UC] voodoo or cockfights?
> 
> 
>> You mean to tell me that there are actually people who would condone
> leaving
>> that animal's carcass where it was found in order to "respect" someone's
>> culture?  Now I can say I have heard everything.  And I thought eschewing
>> responsible medical care for one's religion was nuts.
>> 
>> Sande Knight
>> Deloitte & Touche
>> Assurance and Advisory Services
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>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Brian Siano [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 12:56 PM
>> To: UnivCity listserv
>> Subject: Re: [UC] voodoo or cockfights?
>> 
>> 
>> Wilma de Soto wrote:
>> 
>>> On 1/23/03 11:40 AM, "John Ellingsworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Will it affect me if I picked it up even if I don't believe in voodoo or
>>>> Santeria?
>>>> What about the disposal person?  Will they be affected?  Should an
>> exorcism
>>>> be performed on it?
>>>> Or should we just leave it in the park?
>>>> 
>>> I realize you are being tongue-in-cheek here, but for adherents to these
>>> practices, it is a serious matter.
>>> 
>>> Frankly, I cannot be certain if being a believer makes one more
> susceptible
>>> but my guess would be yes.  In all probability this was an offering to
> the
>>> Orichas, if you interfere with it, well...it's not a good thing whether
> you
>>> are a believer or not.  The rule of thumb is that what you are not
> involved
>>> with, let it be.
>>> 
>> I am completely out of sympathy with Wilma's comments. For one thing,
>> this is a dead animal John found: regardless of whatever "ritual" was
>> involved in leaving it there, it could become a health hazard. Corpses
>> attract carrion-eaters, insects and parasites. Fleas vacate the corpse,
>> and they gotta go _somewhere_. (n other words, at the very least, that
>> corpse has to be disposed of.
>> 
>> And it's probably not a nice thing for a small child to discover,
>> either. Let's say you left it there out of "respect" for whatever ritual
>> you suppose was involved. So this dead, decapitated animal's laying in a
>> park, and while you're congratulating youself on your tolerance for
>> strange and colorful cultures, Mom brings out her pre-schoolers for some
>> fresh air and maybe some wintertime activity on the swings. So not only
>> do the kids _find_ this thing, but now they have to imagine that there
>> are people in their neighborhood who _murder animals_ because they
>> belong to some _weird religious cult_.
>> 
>> Look at it this way. Let's say that one of us found a decapitated
>> rooster dumped not in Clark Park, but our front yard. I don't think any
>> of us would think, "Well, it was probably one of those religious
>> practices of one of those other cultures. After all, it's a place with
>> shrubs and grass, it's a small patch of nature, and it was done as an
>> offering to the Orichas." I think our first thought would be "Who the
>> hell'd dump a dead animal in MY front yard?" And I think our second
>> thought'd be "Is this some kind of bizarre _threat?_ Is someone trying
>> to chase me out of the neighborhood?" And I think our third thought
>> would involve filing a police report of some sort.
>> 
>>> I am of the opinion that all people's religious observances should be
>>> treated respectfully whether or not I agree with them.
>>> 
>> It'd be interesting to see if Wilma'd extend such tolerance to, say, the
>> Christian Identity movement.
>> 
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Regards,

Wilma

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