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"Could I suggest that the two of you take this private? No one else is participating in this pissing match, and I can’t imagine that anyone is interested in following it.
Kimm"
If someone in a position of power in the neighborhood told serious lies about you in public, wouldn't you wish to tell the truth publicly?
I recently received what I interpreted as a veiled threat, from one civic association leader. Then, I was bombarded with serious lies about me on this public medium by another one. I think there are times that making the truth available should be done, even if no one wishes to follow it. I'm receiving this bullying because I commented on an important public issue in a letter to the editor.
Should people be silenced on community issues because powerful civic association leaders use outrageous bullying tactics?
As I write this, this came. Kimm, do you see what West wanted with a series of outrageous attacks and lies?
Glenn,
"I'm totally with Kimm on this. If you have a private complaint vis-à-vis me, or Friends of Clark Park, or the Philadelphia Recreation Dept., take it off list. This is a misallocation of bandwidth, even on UC-list.
-- Tony West"
I think my public responses have been appropriate.
Sincerely,
Glenn
-----Original Message-----
From: Kimm Tynan
Sent: Jan 24, 2010 9:29 PM
To: Anthony West , univcity@list.purple.com, Glenn moyer
Subject: Re: [UC] Gelenn & his whores
Could I suggest that the two of you take this private? No one else is participating in this pissing match, and I can’t imagine that anyone is interested in following it.
Kimm
On 1/24/10 8:09 PM, "Anthony West" <anthony_w...@earthlink.net> wrote:
So you continue not to oppose commercial sex in Clark Park, Glenn.
Everything you have ever written is recorded in the archives of UC-list.
You are the sole pro-whore contributor to this list. You worked hard for
many years to earn this distinction.
Let me repeat: I'm not against you as a person. I'm not against
commercial sex as a person. But if you are still totally for commercial
sex in our neighborhood park, I am still totally against it.
If you have changed your mind, and will no longer publicly defend
prostitution in the park, then I will no longer criticize you for
defending it.
-- Tony West
> Neighbors,
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> I've talked with several of you about the various forms of intimidation that you've experienced at the hands of the civic association leaders over the years. Rumors, intimidation at your job, and vandalism are very serious. Both Ad hominem and straw man tactics attack individuals directly instead of supporting one's position.
>
> Why do some of these leaders go so pathalogically low? Tony is a special jackass, but the stories and my own experience show me that others go deep into the slime too! Do they believe they are invincible liars?
>
> I believe the motivation is a frightening craving for the illusion of power, that pushed Tony with his serious lies. He could get into trouble for such potentially damaging lies. These tactics do not win arguments. Nor are they normal reactions to just having losing arguments or unfair desires for middle class privilege! Would you ever think of telling lies like Tony did about me to win an argument???
>
> Can you imagine the type of harm that Mr. West's lies (straw man technique)could do?
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> People on the list know that West is a jackass, at this point. But read again what West wrote and think of all the possible harm such pathalogical lying could do. (e.g. One of the FOCP board members and a friend of mine has known my girlfriend for years in a professional setting. And people around the world can access our public listserv unlike UC Neighbors.)
>
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