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[VIHUELA] Re: fun

Eloy Cruz
Sat, 26 Jan 2008 21:27:02 -0800

Dear Bill

All I can heartily say is that you are absolutely right: with this music and
in that Laberinto CD, I, we, are just having fun. For the first time in my
life, after all these years, I can say I'm out of school, I can say I forgot
about academy, I just let go and enjoy music and the company of great
musicians and great friends.
Let me tell you how we made this CD. I didn't know any of the jarocho
players and had never seen them, it was my friend Enrique who proposed their
participation. I met them on Friday morning and we had a day-long rehearsal;
next day, Saturday, dress rehearsal and concert. Sunday was off to allow
everybody to get rid of the hangover, and on Monday we started the four-day
recording session.
Some of the final versions were devised right there at the studio, some of
the verses were improvised there. Enrique came out with the final cadence of
la lloroncita when we had finished recording it, we had to re-record... I've
never been in a recording like that one, it was like if everybody had played
this music all their lives, and I think that was true... The Codice saldivar
Fandango and the jarocho fandanguito are just one and the same thing, and so
do la Jotta and La maria Chuchena, so nobody was on foreign land. Lee is a
spectacular musician who connected in 3 minutes time with the jarochos and
they had a great deal of musical conversation all the time although they
couldn't understand the other's spoken language....

And I absolutely agree with what you say

> they are simply reveling in the music of their
> grandfathers ... their grandfather's grandfather and more.

All the time I keep finding the old in the new. One night, at a jarocho
fiesta, a fandango, I heard this verse:

Ora si china del alma
Ya no nos condenaremos
Los infiernos se acabaron
Y los diablos se murieron

I really had a chill, because in the inquisition archives there's a 18th
cent. denunciation of a son called pan the jarave with this verse

Ya el infierno se acavo
Ya los Diablos se murieron
Haora si chinita mia
Ya no nos condenaremos

And I also agree that the music of the Son came from the other side of the
Atlantic, and some of the pieces, why not, probably went from this side to
the other...

Thanks a lot!

Cheers


eloy




El 1/26/08 6:24 PM, "bill kilpatrick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió:

> as stated earlier, i've been dancing around the kitchen lately with the
> "ensamble continuo" and their new world baroque offerings.  don't know what
> you prepare your evening's meal with but this has been "top of the pops" with
> me for un bel pò.
> 
> it occurs to me - as i listen - that they (eloy et al.) are having fun.
> 
> imagine that ... 
> 
> they are not exploring a musical tradition alien to a british or north
> american tradition; they are simply reveling in the music of their
> grandfathers ... their grandfather's grandfather and more.
> 
> there are those, i'm sure, who will suggest that the son (sone) tradition is
> uniquely american and is only obliquely related to music tradition of the
> old(e) world.  but if you will only place yourself in the position of a music
> loving émigré  to the new found land (circa 1500 and something) who happens to
> influence those around you to the extent that they pass on that influence to
> succeeding generations ... it is not beyond the realms of probability that the
> music produced in subsequent modern times relates directly to the music that
> has passed before.
> 
> this point ... this aspect, i suggest (sigh) relates to their instruments as
> well.
> 
> what is it about a 4, 5 or 6 course new world instrument that (per forza)
> excludes it from the old world repertoire?
> 
> - bill
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