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[VIHUELA] Re: OT: any ideas on this mandolin?

Eugene C. Braig IV
Mon, 07 Apr 2008 10:45:24 -0700

At 12:01 PM 4/6/2008, Stuart Walsh wrote:
>Eugene, did you see the photos of this mandolin?
>
>http://www.pluckedturkeys.co.uk/mandopics/

I have now.  thanks for the reference.


>Do you think this mando could be a de Meglio (or imitator)? This 
>particular mandolin didn't really strike me as a good quality instrument - 
>but I don't know anything about mandolins!

Almost certainly either a very basic de Meglio made for export (possibly to 
be sold as some retailer's house brand) or from a more working-class shop 
very deliberately imitating the style.  Without more evidence, and with 
that coarse bridge as possible original equipment, I'm a little more likely 
to suspect this to be of the latter breed.  Not hugely fancy, but the basic 
pieces by de Meglio were solid, reliable "working class" mandolins.


>Did many mandolins have side vents? I've never seen them before.

That was very much a late-19th-c. Neapolitan phenomenon.  There weren't a 
huge number of makers to do so, but shops like de Meglio's were relatively 
prolific in producing them.


>And teh wooden frame thing behind the bridge 'set into the leading edge' 
>(do you mean the backward slope of the soundboard?).

I was trying to describe that the edge of the bridge leading into the 
vibrating string length would have a brass rod set for a bridge 
"saddle."  The crease in the soundboard to create the "backward slope" is 
called the cant.  The cant/tailpiece side of the bridge proper is that that 
I was referring to as "trailing edge" of the bridge's wooden frame in being 
the opposite edge to the vibrating string length.  It looks like the wooden 
portion of the bridge to space the a' course has been broken away.


>Can you see the bridge itself in the photos, especially the fifth photo? 
>Looks odd to me. Is there something missing from the nut?

It's hard to tell, but it looks like the brass saddle is in place.  The 
only thing that appears to be missing from the bridge is the piece broken 
from between the strings of the a' course.  That said, the bridge looks 
relatively coarsely shaped and certainly is not fit to the top very 
well.  I can't tell from the photos if the bridge itself had originally 
been fit badly, if the bridge is a rather coarse replacement, if the bridge 
had been moved without concern for maintaining the best possible contact 
with soundboard, or if there is some distortion of bridge and/or soundboard 
from age (attics, especially those with huge fluctuations of humidity and 
temperature, tend to not be very friendly places for wooden 
instruments).  The screwed-on wooden tensioner thingy to the cant side of 
the bridge was pretty common to a few makers in similar style (de Meglio, 
Ceccherini, etc.).

I can't see much of the nut, but it does look to feature the common 
independent-nut and 0-fret arrangement.


>I was asked to tune it but I looked at the neck-pegbox joint (photo 8) and 
>I suspect the pegbox has broken off some time. I wouldn't have dared 
>tuning it. Finally, are the plectra typical?

It does look like that joint may have been sloppily repaired.  If it seems 
solid, it can probably be safely tuned.  You might want to have a luthier 
give it a quick look to be certain.  In any case, I would certainly 
recommend light strings.  I like "Calace" brand carbon steel by the Italian 
company Dogal; their light ("dolce") set is RW-92b.

The two more teardrop-shaped plectra look pretty typical.  The squarish 
one, much less so, but there was and is a huge diversity in plectral 
preferences.  I favor a more "Neapolitan" shape, similar to the 
teradrop-shaped plectra pictured, especially the pointier one.

Best,
Eugene 



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