Monica Hall
Mon, 28 Dec 2009 13:37:10 -0800
Campanelas are not just used for flowery passages. It is quite common to find odd notes belonging to the melody displaced. Bartolotti does this quite a lot - for example in Book 1 on p.71 in the second full bar you can see that there is open 5th course followed by open 2nd course - a b leading into the C major Chord B. The same thing happens in the first full bar of the second line with the c and d following G tagliata.
The unaswerable question is - does he do that because he used a re-entrant tuning - or because it is easier to play than stopping the a at the 2nd fret on the 3rd course (which it is) in the first example. In the second example it is really impossible to play the c on the 5th course at the 1st fret on the 2nd course because it involves releasing the barre and shifting back and forward. Of course he may simply be taking advantage of the re-entrant tuning to arrange the music in a certain way. Who knows?
I have a similar problem with anything above the 7th fret sounding tinny but this due to the short string length of my instrument I think.
But you don't have a rose in your instrument either, just a sound hole and I think this affects the tone quality. I had a problem with mine coming unstuck and suggested to the maker that I just remove it but he said no - it will never sound the same again so he spent a lot of time and my money sticking it back in. Anyway it looks prettier like that.
Monica----- Original Message ----- From: "Stuart Walsh" <s.wa...@ntlworld.com>
To: "Monica Hall" <mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk> Cc: "Vihuelalist" <vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu> Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 12:01 PM Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] guitar arrangement
Monica Hall wrote:V. Nice - but I hope you weren't travelling on Eurostar - or were the visuals taken from a car?.A car - as slow as I could drive. Shooting in to the sun with some vague idea of abstract 'landscape-iness' - then the camcorder went and focused itself! Oh well...Like the re-entrant tuning too. How about making the tab available. Are you playing the melody on alternate strings?Yes. Here's RT's opening statement of the melody set for Renaissance lute and, underneath, my attempt at as setting with the melody in campanella:http://www.pluckedturkeys.co.uk/ZG.jpgAs usual, a better player on a better instrument would probably make the campanella sound out more clearly. On reflection I don't think I've seen campanellas in this sort of context. Are they usually used in flowery fast moving sections?There are many, many alternatives and possibilities with campanella. I spent quite some time on this short setting of RT's, but God knows how long Dominic took with his version of the Bach chaconne!! (in his 'Roman' re-entrant tuning...)I managed to access the Gallot pieces this time too - but what are the folio numbers?No idea. I'm playing from a print-off almost as old as the MS itself - from the days when microfilm printers printed on some sort of metal-based paper (silver nitrate?). The Gallot MS is really frustrating because the MS is (very portrait) and the microfilm photos were taken in landscape format. Anyway, here is what the page looks like:http://www.pluckedturkeys.co.uk/Gallot.jpgI find it really hard to get any tone out of my guitar above fret h. Sometimes, ligados on the top string, higher up, are virtually inaudible. But maybe it's just me.(I don't have any programs for - and don't know how to do - either tab or standard music notation)All the best for 2010 MonicaAnd to you and all. Stuart----- Original Message ----- From: "Stuart Walsh" <s.wa...@ntlworld.com> To: "Vihuelalist" <vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu> Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 9:03 AM Subject: [VIHUELA] guitar arrangementRT has been railing against the guitar on the lute list, yet one of his latest lute arrangements seems to need a bit of chord brushing. So yesterday I re-arranged his lute arrangement for re-entrant guitar with a bit of battute and camapanella. The wise thing to do now would be to put it to one side, then review it, then practice it fully. And the rash thing to do is just bung it on the Internet (rhythmic goofs and all). So here it is:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fad6h1cMak And here's Roman's original arrangement: http://www.torban.org/sarmaticae/images/sarmatica112.pdf Stuart To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.430 / Virus Database: 270.14.121/2589 - Release Date: 12/27/09 09:18:00
