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RE: [Vo]:Moon bases or free-floating space colonies

Lawrence de Bivort
Thu, 13 Mar 2008 16:13:21 -0700

Hi, all.

What I am thinking of are free-floating self-contained micro-gravity
permanent space colonies for quite small numbers of people -- ten-to
hundreds of thousands of people. These colonies could be produced in space
on a modular basis, and, in the end, inexpensively. Once people started
being born there, they would not be going 'back' to earth or any other
high-gravity environment for physiological reasons. These colonies would not
need contact with other colonies, though they might wish to have such. New
materials would be mined from small asteroids.

Proximity to first the Sun and perhaps down the road to other stars would
provide energy: the more energy you want, the closer you park to the sun.

Why might one wish to live in such a colony?

First, the environment. I do not see this in any way as a way of reducing
earth (over)population. The numbers and cost of lifting people make that
virtually impossible. But it is entirely conceivable that conditions on
earth may be become sufficiently unpleasant that, like other emigrants here
on earth, escape may be desirable, and, for a small portion of the
population, quite feasible. It may be that the environment provided by a
space colony, well designed and provisioned, will be superior to that
available to most people on earth.

Second, science. There will always be people who want to try new things and
new environments, much like the early air pilots, SCUBA divers or
hang-gliders.

Third, aesthetics. One of the things that strike me about people who have
gone into space is their euphoric aesthetic reaction to the experience.
There may be an aesthetic to it that attracts a lot of people, much like the
US southwest has attracted painters and poets, photographers and writers
over the last hundred years.

Fourth, business. It may be that in mining asteroids, or in micro-gravity
manufacturing (e.g. electrophoresis), economic business opportunities
emerge, serving earth or other space colonies.

Fifth, politics. As societal systems grow more complex and powerful on
earth, human beings are likely to experience a growing sense of constraints,
invasion of privacy and loss of freedom and options. Forces of control (Big
Brother) may grow in power, creating resistance, social discord and a sense
that the social contract is broken. If this occurs it may be a rational
response to create space colonies that can 'advertise' themselves based upon
differing political designs, with different configurations of freedom,
privacy, social accountability, authority and governance, investment
priorities, social values, etc., so attracting people partial to their
particular characteristics and desiring to participate in them.


There are design issues that should be addressed: the most important to my
mind is that of Requisite Variety (as per Ross Ashby's exploration of the
issue in, IIRC, CYBERNETICS). Would such a colony have sufficient variety to
keep itself growing intellectually, to say nothing of biological health?
What is the minimum critical mass of individuals needed to keep an isolated
or near-isolated colony going strong? Might a program of visits be necessary
among several colonies to meet the requirements of Requisite Variety?


Anyway, I hope this list shows that there could be a variety of legitimate
reasons for free-floating space colonies. The issue, of course, is not
whether EVERYONE would want to go, but whether a sufficient number of
people, with sufficient assets or needed skills, could come together to
order a colony be built. The initial group of inhabitants would likely be
small, and reproduction would be the way the colony grew.

Could an initial demand be sufficient to get the activity started?

Books that throw some light on these themes include:

Clarke, RAMA (four books in the sequence)

Heinlein, THE MAN WHO SOLD THE MOON

Cheers,
Lawrence





-----Original Message-----
From: Robin van Spaandonk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 10:07 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Moon bases

In reply to  OrionWorks's message of Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:10:40 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
>Robin sez:
>
>...
>
>> I think that there is little point in being in space just for it's own
sake. The
>> only real reason to go into space is to go to other planets. If one
doesn't have
>> the technology to do that, then there isn't much point.
>
>...
>
>I've run across this opinion many times in my life. When I was a tad
>younger the opinion used to incense me to no end. 
[snip]
I think we have different definitions of space. You mean everything outside
the
Earth. I mean literally the space between things. IMO there is plenty of
reason
to got out into your space - those reasons are called stars and planets.
That's
also where I would like to go (curiosity). 

What I meant was that if you really look at your own motivations, I think
that's
also the only reason you would want to go. Ask your self this question:

"If space were totally devoid of anything else other than the Earth and the
Sun,
would I still want to go?"

Well maybe some would, to get a better look at the Sun, but I doubt many
would
want to live there.

IOW I see living in space itself (rather than on a planet or moon) more as a
possible necessity than as something desirable...and I think that necessity
will
eventually be avoidable, though perhaps not in the near future. It depends
on
just how fast those black ops UFOs are. :)
Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

The shrub is a plant.