Stephen A. Lawrence
Wed, 04 Jun 2008 20:56:08 -0700
Harry Veeder wrote:
I am calling your bluff. ;-)
Not a bluff, though it involves some fuzzy reasoning. The difference between a "proof" and an "explanation" has bugged me since junior high, when I found out that most mathematical facts are "proven" without ever being "explained".
As I said before, a "model" may predict what's going to happen but will never tell you why. Using a model is a tacit admission that we don't know what the "reasons behind" things are, or even if there are any such reasons.
What is the difference between an explanation and a model? You have said something substantive about models, but nothing substantive about explanations, except to say that explanation is not a model. Or is it just an issue of semantics?
Maybe it's just semantics, but I actually think it's more a matter of gut feel, and "satisfaction level". If you look at the link Terry gave, the author's objection is that physics doesn't say "why" magnets attract. Well, what would it mean to say why they attract?
This is the heart of the issue -- just exactly what is an explanation? In physics it's hard to say, for me, at least, because I don't know of any explanations. As far as I know modern physics has none.
In math it's easier to see the difference. For example, we can find pi by integrating the arctan function, or by integrating sqrt(1-x^2), both of which are stunningly opaque approaches. We can prove that the area of a circle is pi*r^2 using calculus, which is, again, an amazingly opaque approach. Alternatively, we can find the circumference and area of a circle using Pythagoras's theorem and some simple drawings, and we can extract a value for pi that way. I would call the latter approach an "explanation", because, to me, it "explains why" the circumference and area of the circle are what they are.
But something this is pointing up is that the word "explanation" is rather slippery. I could struggle with it a bit more, and perhaps say that an explanation works from simple things which we "know" to be true to show that other more complex things follow inevitably from those simple things -- but the phrase "know to be true" is already flirting with vagueness. So I'll just let it go at saying that an explanation leaves one feeling satisfied; a model may not...
By the way, the derivation of pi from Pythagoras's theorem to which I referred, and the derivation of the area of a circle and volume of a sphere using geometric arguments, are here:
http://physicsinsights.org/pi_from_pythagoras-1.html http://physicsinsights.org/sphere-volume-1.htmlYou may not feel these pages actually "explain" anything, of course! :-) That was, however, part of the reason for putting them together, and perhaps these pages will give you an idea of what I think an explanation is. Or maybe not...