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Re: [Vo]:The Science of Intention

OrionWorks
Thu, 05 Jun 2008 14:20:07 -0700

Hi Stephen,

> I'm sorry, but I have to ask this... If he can work miracles,
> and if he's here to "fix up the mess" in any way shape or form,
> what's he actually doing to fix things up?

No apologies are necessary. ;-)

IMO: I suspect the phrase "fix up the mess" is being taken out of context.

Please consider the following as metaphor. Consider the possibility
that a wise parent learned long ago not to fix the problems his
children create. He advises, he suggests, he encourages. But he
doesn't fix our problems - just for us. What would we learn if a
parent constantly fixed the problems we created ourselves? It's a
perfect recipe for keeping us at the level of ignorant foolish
children for all of eternity. Ironically, it would seem that some of
us would actually prefer to remain as innocent ignorant children! (The
fall from grace fable.)  But alas, sooner or later we'd just create
the same mess again, and again, then we would be right back to where
we started, pissed of at our current concept of a Deity for not
bailing us out. "Well... screw you, G_d! You, must not exist!!!!"

Your comments strike me personally as if it shares a tiny element of
this frustration. In fact your comments almost strike me as being
pissed of at this Baba guy for not doing more to help us out. After
all, if Baba really is as powerful as some suspect he is why isn't he
DOING something & fixing things up for us!!!!!

FWIW: I often hear a similar argument originating from many atheists,
some who almost strike me personally as if they are unconsciously
pissed off at this G_d concept, because how could a G_d allow so many
unspeakable horrors to run rampant across our planet. Therefore,
almost in retaliation, many become outraged at the perceived injustice
of it all and subsequently conclude there must be no G_d, cuz a real
G_d (if one actually existed, sitting in his rocking chair with his
hearing aid turned off) would have prevented the messes we find
ourselves mired in.

> Turn it around:  Sai Baba is a miracle worker and yet his impact
> has apparently been so slight that people outside of India are
> nearly unaware of him.  Why is that?

I repeat what I said previously:

"It would seem that collectively speaking we have made a tact pact to
ignore the significance of what Sai teaches us, perhaps because the
majority of us would for the moment prefer to remain transfixed within
the manufactured belief that reality manipulates us rather than the
other way around."

The master shows his disciples the trick of manifesting ash seemingly
out of thin air. Afterwards, he gazes at his astonished students, and
then asks, "OK, YOUR TURN. What do YOU want to manifest?"

Just my two cents


Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
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