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[Vo]:Re: Arata's results are really astounding

Michel Jullian
Mon, 09 Jun 2008 17:24:38 -0700

I seem not to have received that posting by Robin you quote, was it sent to the 
list? I gather 180,000 J is 1W times 3600 s per hour times 50 hours (and not 
100 hours), but where does that figure of 6E21 atoms of D come from?

If confirmed, the figure of 187 eV (180000J/6E+21/1.6E-19 = 187) per D atom is 
indeed far beyond chemical reaction heat release. For comparison, D2(g) + 0.5 
O2(g) -> D2O(l) only releases about 1.5 eV per D atom (294 kJ/mol D2O -> 
294000J/6.02E23/1.6E-19/2 = 1.5 eV per D atom), i.e. two orders of magnitude 
less.

Also I don't recall reading anything about Arata et al deliberately quenching 
the reaction after 100 hours, didn't they suggest the reaction was poisoned by 
4He to explain why heat release didn't last longer?

Michel

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jed Rothwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <vortex-L@eskimo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 1:10 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:RE: Arata's results are really astounding


> Robin van Spaandonk wrote:
> 
>>180000 J / 6E21 atoms of D = 187 eV / D atom. This is way beyond ordinary
>>chemistry, but does fall right in the range of Mills energies.
> 
> Please note however, that they deliberately quench the reaction after 
> 100 hours. If they did not do that, there is no telling how much 
> longer it would continue. In other words, this is not the upper limit.
> 
> Based on other experiments and the assumption that this is fusion 
> (which I think is 99.99% sure) it might go on for years.
> 
> - Jed
>