Jones Beene
Sat, 14 Jun 2008 10:01:20 -0700
Terry ...speaking of a "membrane electrode" in the context of a possible shrunken-hydrogen ... ...thinking aloud: protons are conducted by many metals like palladium and plastics (PEM) which are used in fuel cells; but it takes lots of chemical energy to create ions (protons) for the *single use* in the fuel-cell (FC) and the normal FC membrane surface area must be large. In the case of a hydrino - and Mills has claimed that batteries can be made from them, the active ion particle is (or can be) reuseable, and as a stable hydride ion (Mills' claim), it would be "like a battery" which transfers charge "on demand" but without needing a corresponding chemical reaction to provide the emf. How can that be? it still needs a virtual emf from somewhere - so is there a way to make Hy- ions go two-way instead of one way using lesser energy? Maybe, and looking at the image on this page: http://genepax.co.jp/mechanism/mechanism.html ... it seems that this reversible transfer could perhaps be done with a third electrode and a time lag? ERGO the metaphor of a "triode membrane" - does it seems to you like there is an extra set of layers in there ? Not that genepax would necessarily make such an image accurate or anything like that ... still it is very interesting and bizzare. (as is their chosen name) BTW - in past speculation, it has been suggested by me that the ultimate source of energy for hydrinos is most likely to be ZPE and NOT orbital shrinkage. ZPE would be increasingly intense and possibly unbalanced in the tight picometer geometry of redundant ground states. Mills himself does not believe in ZPE. Too bad for him, since if that is indeed the active source of energy, it will probably deny BLP any kind of patent coverage except for very specific devices, and this may not be one of them. Jones