Re: [Vo]:Chlorine photo-reactivity

[Jones Beene]

--- Michael Crosiar wrote:

> I've been thinking about this since you posted about
> a month ago. How photo photo-sensitive is chlorine
> in the UV range? One of the problems mills has is
> getting enough mono-atomic hydrogen for his
> catalytic reaction. I'm thinking the HCl serves
> another much simpler purpose.
 
> HCl + uv -> H + Cl
> Cl + H2 -> HCl + H

> Thus acting as a catalyst to provide monoatomic
> Hydrogen. 

Yes, but it is more complicated than that. Water alone
will of course free the proton from HCl, even without
the UV - forming the cation hydronium, which is the
simpler way. I think Mills' obsession with thin
plasmas may be a tactical mistake which goes back to
the Balmer line studies, and that water-based systems
with NaCl or HCl or CaCl or all three- may be the
better way to go.

Then- if a hydrino forms, the UV can accelerate the
process as you say - and form another hydrino
candidate, and in a limited chain reaction using
chlorine photoreactivity, since Cl is strongly
activated at around 10 eV which is below the 13.6 eV.

In fact that spread of about 3 eV and the limited
chain reaction may be two keys, along with
Casimir-type pressure in a nickel matrix, to getting
this kind of thing into a workable system, as another
group has stumbled upon, a few months ago.

That may be what is happening in the Kanzius RF salt
water water-splitting discovery. If the RF which is
used is resonant for Na, as Roy claims, then when the
sodium is volatilized or spatially removed, H-Cl ions
are formed. Monatomic H is available as a surface
reactant with the nickel - from the cation due to the
natural oscillation of charge. This then resembles
light water LENR but with the benefit of chlorine.

All Roy-Kanzius needs to do is to do perhaps is to
incorporate Millsean and hybrid techniques to insure a
more robust chain reaction. IOW if they were to get
hold of the Raney Nickel catalyst (WR Grace) and plate
out some sodium onto a cathode in situ which is also a
hybrid RF antenna - then they could perhaps leap-frog
Mills' new reactor - which will be forever cursed with
the thin-plasma limitations.

Chlorine is extremely photosensitive in the UV range,
but is (oops was) not a hydrino catalyst in CQM. At
least not until Mills recently seemed to jump-ship to
a degree in the new paper:

http://www.blacklightpower.com/papers/WFC052708webS.pdf

... in which he has essentially, by decree if you
believe his critics, made nearly every element in the
periodic table a catalyst by redefining hydrogen
containing *molecules* like NaH to be catalysts, but
without explaining (just glossing over) the lack of
high energy (formerly required) to go down to Hy (1/4)
in one giant step. It is very bizarre what he has
done.

Until more is known, his critics will consider this to
to be bordering on intellectual dishonesty (I am not a
critic). However, I do see it as more evidence of how
ubiquitous a *temporary* below ground state hydrogen
can be in circumstances which do not require the full
Mills' CQM- but can nevertheless, benefit from his
insight to some substantial degree.

Before - sodium was actually used as a control by
Mills, since it required such a high activation energy
(over 200 eV was the figure given in my early edition
of CQM - which is a soft gamma ray). Sodium was used
as a control in the Thermacore papers at the
suggestion of RM (where is was then found to be very
slightly overunity) and that is probably why it was
thereafter listed ~circa 1995 as a catalyst, requiring
high activation.

As I posted back when this paper came out, the use of
salt - NaCl (or NaOH) which is in effect the identity
of the "solid fuel" when it is reacted with hydrogen -
is coincidentally too close for comfort to the Rustum
Roy - John Kanzius paper about RF water splitting in
salt water... at least to suggest that it is all just
coincidental. 

Mills is located geographically close to Roy's lab,
and also to Philly- which has a wealthy and active VC
community, which has backed him in the past and is
apparently going to put some major funding into the RF
process; and this could be one motivating factor for
the "discovery" that sodium is the "new" latest and
greatest catalyst (before it was potassium, or argon,
or stontium, helium, etc. never Na). IOW the solid
fuel is essentially hydrogenated salt, but in a plasma
process.

Sorry for the digression but yes - chlorine should
work fantastic in a hybrid type cell using HCl water
and Raney nickel - and should work far more
effectively than a thin plasma. From my vantage point,
Kanzius-Roy may have stumbled upon a winner in a
process to finally put ZPE to work. 

IMHO it will be ZPE which is responsible for the
excess energy, and not dependent on a one-way
shrinkage of hydrogen ala CQM. 

The end result willironically probably be LENR type
transmutation, which will fool many into thinking the
process is nuclear, when the transmutation is an
"effect" and not a "cause" i.e a side effect of ZPE
energy withdrawal.

Apologies (as usual) for making a short-story long ;-)

Jones