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Re: [Vo]:Electromagnetic radiation from ionized air - "electrostatic" cooling

David Jonsson
Wed, 02 Jul 2008 19:19:19 -0700

On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 11:27 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> In reply to  David Jonsson's message of Sun, 29 Jun 2008 11:03:58 +0200:
> Hi,
> [snip]
> >I don't count vibrational since they aren't excited at these temperatures.
> I
> >have clarified this in the file now. I also describe the rotational as
> >½m<v>^2. That make a total of five. As I have only used rotation around
> one
> >axis I have taken the energy to be 1/5 of the total.
>
> I still don't understand why you take 1/5 rather than 2/5, but then that's
> your
> decision.


I upgraded now and in the case of magnetic dipole I use both rotational
degrees of freedom. Yet the effect is very small.

Check http://djk.se/physics/


> >
> >Hope to be able to update the calculus with the magnetic moment sometime.
> >
> >Help to know about how the charges are distributed on an gas ion would
> help.
>
> I suspect that because the atoms are equal, the charge oscillates back and
> forth
> across the molecule.


That's what I assumed for electric quadrupole and it also holds for magnetic
dipole.

I will abandon this idea now and try to see if some electron gas is forming
as a result of the net charges. Electron gas has very high thermal
conductivity and could maybe explain the cooling effect.

David

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