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[Vo]:UEE and one-watt flames

Jones Beene
Fri, 11 Jul 2008 08:08:20 -0700

Returning to the UEE department (ultra-efficient
electrolysis) ... but unlike the hype from Xogen,
previously mentioned, this is now becoming
reproducible by others...

Remember Kanzius? Remember the Stifller SEC exciter?

Several observers bemoaned the fact- following the
bombshell Roy-Kanzius RF electrolysis announcement-
that it was clear the authors had left out a couple of
key pieces of information for those intent on
replication.

Here is the best available article found so far, from
Prof Roy's site:

http://www.rustumroy.com/Scans/Observations%20of%20polarized%20MRI%20vol%2012%20is%201.pdf

However, since anything involving hydrogen gets
inventors excited (in the era of oil-greed) and many
have been playing around with variations of this RF
electrolysis process, as it is not difficult to do
.... except that the lack of detail was frustrating -
yet that may end up being a blessing in disguise.

The lack of disclosure may actually result in
improvements (and even patents) being made beyond the
original by the peanut-gallery of garage tinkers
(check out YouTube) and a few teenage science-geeks
(being tutored by me) with time on their hands now
that they can't "cruise" around in gas-guzzlers.

Here are the two key areas where the details of this
process were initially sparse:

1) RF "polarization" - how was the 13.56 MHz radiation
polarized? Given that the wavelength is so long (22
meters) it is rather difficult to do this with
conventional waveguides and gratings, as is done with
shorter wl RF. Not to mention, RF does not couple well
to water normally (which is probably why it was
polarized in the first place).

Although that question remains unanswered, it is clear
from what I have seen that Ron Stiffler's SEC
oscillator circuit works more efficiently than RF from
any dedicated RF source. So forget Kanzius and Roy and
their fancy-pantsy RF polarizer. All you need to worry
about now is the FCC <G>.

IOW the pure polarized frequency is actually probably
LESS effective, not more so, than the highly harmonic
but "noisy" output of the Stiffler SEC "exciter" (a
relatively simple oscillator circuit). You can view
the scope images of the output on his site (yes there
is a peak at 13.56 MHz).

BTW the circuits are available from his website:

http://67.76.235.52/DrStiffler/SECElectrolysis.asp

...or you can be easily built one with parts from
Radio Shack, yet it will allow - with about one watt
of power from cheap batteries, anyone to produce
enough gas to sustain a small flame (with the proper
additions and design, like a mini-wick). 

Kanzius was using 200 watts LOL.

2) a "secret" ingredient other than NaCl

The key ingredient in the Kanzius innovation, as it
turns out, appears to be nanoparticles of metal and/or
metal oxide. The exact identity of what he uses is
unknown AFAIK -- but no-to-worry, intrepid tinkerers.

The following appears to work well (according to
students who have been experimenting with it): MnO
(cheapest); Raney metal (WR Grace) and the crushed
(powderized) ceramic from an automotive catalytic
converter. 

In a quick visual appraisal- all of these "appear" to
be massively OU - given the flame available from a
watt or two of DC input, but that is deceiving -- in
that the catalyst is probably being consumed
(oxidized) to varying degrees, and elimination of that
chemical reaction as contributory to the thermodynamic
balance is most problematic (and where the real work
begins).

Can a catalyst be found which is not consumed? Can a
flame be sustained indefinitely, instead of a few
minutes? Stay tuned.

Jones