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[Vo]:Re: one-watt flame rant, part 1

Jones Beene
Mon, 14 Jul 2008 08:30:07 -0700

--- R C Macaulay wrote:

> The CL2 gas  released into the treated wastewater 
is distributed as gas ... and is "assumed" to
transition from chlorine to a type of hydrochlorous
acid ...

Isn't it amazing, Richard, when science can clone a
mammal and put a cat on Mars ;-) that some of these
very simple transitions of Chlorine are NOT fully
understood and precisely quantified yet, even by the
experts? Makes you wonder how many huge but basic gaps
there are elsewhere in physics today, doesn't it?

The ironic thing is this: if Richard or anyone else
were to be coming from an industry where the physics
*is* more complete and well-known, which is most of
them, then they would have a hard time believing that
something as simple and important as water treatment
has big gaps in understanding.

When chlorine is involved, the time frame is often too
short for us to "see" very accurately: i.e. our
technology to probe these things in great detail has
not advanced below the tens of picosecond range, so we
are still about 10-100 times too slow for completely
understanding chlorine.

Plus there is a huge remnant mystery surrounding
chlorine-hydrogen photochemistry, which is clouded in
one of the few remaining historical black holes from
the Manhattan Project.

End of part one.

Jones