In the interest of clarity hopefully: Here is a link containing containerised mobile boilers which you might find interesting. I'm not yet clear if they are used inside buildings, Also they are for oil and gas boilers rather than electrical ones but I think you will agree there is a passing resemblance. http://www.crosshire.ie/boilers/boilers.php Also interesting there is a calculator for these kinds of boilers incase they are used purely for heating. i.e not some endothermic industrial purpose. I haven't gone through it for heating a warehouse say heating about 10 degrees above ambient though as I'm not sure of the volume. It might be interesting to do though http://www.crosshire.ie/calculators/ I'm not sure but perhaps this is interesting too: http://apps1.eere.energy.gov/buildings/publications/pdfs/commercial_initiative/hvac_volume2_final_report.pdf I suppose heating is not normally a big issue in Miami, but if it is needed for an industrial purpose and the heat is eventually released in the environment it is still interesting to consider its impact. I suppose the "thermal stratification" effects in buildings with high ceilings would also need to be considered, and also if the building is effectively vented as discussed else where.
From: jedrothw...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 20:09:44 -0400 Subject: Re: [Vo]:1 MW of heat in a 6,500 sq. ft. facility without industrial ventilation would be fatal To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Alan Fletcher <a...@well.com> wrote: I accept your claim that 1MW in an un-ventilated, insulated room would be fatal. But that is not the case : a 30,000 CPM is sufficient to ventilate it, and there is a fan (of similar dimensions to one particular example) on the roof. (Plus convective loss, which would reduce the need for ventilation). Alan, you are missing the point!! Please read carefully: Yes, if there is a 30,000 CPM fan in the customer room, and yes if it is running the temperature will not go up. THEREFORE, in order to prove the heat is real, Rossi has to show the I.H. expert this fan. The expert has to measure the air temperature and flow with an HVAC tool such as this one: http://www.tequipment.net/ExtechAN200.asp This confirmation is essential because Rossi's own calorimetry shows no excess heat. This confirmation would be essential in any case, even if Rossi's calorimetry showed excess heat. No one is going to write a check for $89 million without taking every reasonable step to make sure the heat is real, and this is an important test to confirm that. You want to measure heat at the boiler, heat coming from the industrial equipment, and heat removed from the room by the ventilation equipment. These should be in reasonable agreement. All large HVAC equipment has to be periodically tested for safety. When they do these tests, they measure the COP of the boilers, and they measure how well the chimney and fans are working. Anyone thinking of paying $89 million will demand the same kinds of tests. Rossi presented no calorimetric data to Lewan (see my separate thread), . . . I heard he did, but I could be wrong about that. Rossi quoted enough numbers to allow a calculation of the fluid temperature. The numbers he quoted were the same as the sample I analyzed. Rossi filed his contract with IH with the court. See sections 3(c) and 5 . . . No, he did not. He is a fraud. His own data shows that his machine does not work. He tried to cover up additional proof of that by preventing access to the customer site. Rossi says (and will presumably produce in court) that IH and JM signed off on a strict separation (double-black-box) policy. JM is a shell company made by Rossi's lawyer. Their agreements mean nothing. Rossi had access to the facility. There is NO evidence at all that ERV Penon is "Rossi's" man. Yes, there is. He is also a certified idiot. If he sticks around in the U.S. he will be twice an idiot, because he will probably end up in jail. - Jed
