Yes, thanks Mark, that is what I was trying to say. Like Casimir cavities they change the vacuum density such that space time between the boundaries is modified and IMHO the lower ground states they speak of are actually relativistic in nature but in a negative way , the world outside the cavity appears to slow down to a nano observe inside the cavity while the nano observer remains unaware that the longer vacuum wavelengths in his cavity have rotated on the temporal axis to fit between the cavity boundaries. Someday I hope someone derives the relationship between the Casimir formula and Lorentzian time dilation. As for this article I think it may help us improving the NAE but once we introduce hydrogen to the environment it gets complicated – maybe our reactors should be larger and lower power density to best exploit these NAE without damage? Fran
From: MarkI-ZeroPoint [mailto:zeropo...@charter.net] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 1:46 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Light and matter merge in quantum coupling Interesting find Fran! The idea that a very small force applied resonantly producing effects which ‘normally’ require a much stronger force is nothing new, and I’ve certainly brought up a number of articles over the years on this matter… http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l%40eskimo.com/msg83767.html http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l%40eskimo.com/msg67390.html http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l%40eskimo.com/msg73037.html http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l%40eskimo.com/msg104970.html ***What may be novel is that, in Fran’s reference, it’s the vacuum fluctuations which are the minute forces acting in resonance… Does this represent the link or method to extract energy from the vacuum? Does it at least represent the physical possibility rather than a theoretical one? -mark iverson From: Roarty, Francis X [mailto:francis.x.roa...@lmco.com] Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 6:18 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com> Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Light and matter merge in quantum coupling What caught my eye was that this can change the ground state, initiate phase changes, fueled by polaritons in a confined cavity… all the ingredients we hear mentioned by Jones and axil, but…. done with low power [snip] Kono said the amount of terahertz light put into the cavity is very weak. "What we depend on is the vacuum fluctuation. Vacuum, in a classical sense, is an empty space. There's nothing. But in a quantum sense, a vacuum is full of fluctuating photons, having so-called zero-point energy. These vacuum photons are actually what we are using to resonantly excite electrons in our cavity.[/snip] ]Fran From: Che [mailto:comandantegri...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 8:55 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com> Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Light and matter merge in quantum coupling On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 7:53 PM, Roarty, Francis X <francis.x.roa...@lmco.com<mailto:francis.x.roa...@lmco.com>> wrote: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/08/160822152626.htm “"This general subject is what's known as cavity quantum electrodynamics (QED)," Kono said. "In cavity QED, the cavity enhances the light so that matter in the cavity resonantly interacts with the vacuum field. What is unique about solid-state cavity QED is that the light typically interacts with this huge number of electrons, which behave like a single gigantic atom."” Light and matter are essentially manifestations of the same energetic motions (of whatever): so it's not surprising that, with the proper geometries and harmonics, they can be effortlessly made to manifest each other 'symbiotically', on-demand, in a lab. Sooner or later Humans were going to find out how. But who beat us to it..!? :P