The Manelas device and the Sweet system seem to be two different systems.
The Sweet system can produce 500 watts of power whereas the Manelas device
can only manage 60 watts. The Sweet system is driven by a 60 cycle sine
wave a and the Manelas device is driven by a high frequency square wave. It
looks like the Manelas device was.was not conditioned to resonant with the
driving input current and the Sweet device was.

On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 2:30 PM, <bobcook39...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Here is a reflection on the history of the Manelas device.
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> The following link is my source:
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> http://atlantisrisingmagazine.com/article/tiny-tornadoes-of-
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> This history smacks of a dark (classified) program established in the
> 60’s  regarding the strontium ferrite technology.  The are some 5400 dark
> programs active today in this country alone with only a hand full that have
> been allowed to see the light as time goes by.
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> A patent may have been issued to Sweet and GE and it was classified.  The
> patent ran out and nobody did any further work on the technology, except
> Sweet  and Manelas.  The Sweet helper in the West after Sweet’s retirement
> may have had other motives other than helping Sweet.  The above historical
> item makes that point.
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> Then another “helper” from back east arrived at Sweet’s place and Sweet
> was more accepting, if not scared as well.
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> It seems that Sweet and Manelas were close technically with some common
> experiences.  Sweet was threatened but Manelas was over looked, probably
> because he was reasonably discrete about what he was doing and may not have
> been covered by the dark program order.
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> I have had first hand experience with people that have been threatened
> regarding technical issues.  Fear is a powerful motivator to both action
> and inaction.  The Sweet and Manelas reactions are common.
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> GE had no incentive to make good on the old technology, since it
> threatened more competition and loss of a lucrative product—wind turbans
> and other power production lines.  (This is similar to the fate of LENR
> over the last 27 years.)
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> Bob cook
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> *From: *Chris Zell <chrisz...@wetmtv.com>
> *Sent: *Monday, February 13, 2017 9:12 AM
> *To: *vortex-l@eskimo.com
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> *Subject: *RE: [Vo]:Regarding what BOB COOK THINKS ABOUT THE NAE
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> The description of the Manelas device is extremely similar to the Sweet
> device.   And like that device, there seems to be a mystery about how an
> oddly magnetized slab worked – or how it was created. In Sweet’s case, it
> was barium ferrite, I recall.
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> *From:* bobcook39...@gmail.com [mailto:bobcook39...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, February 13, 2017 12:07 PM
> *To:* Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com>; vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
> *Subject:* RE: [Vo]:Regarding what BOB COOK THINKS ABOUT THE NAE
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> Brian—
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> The cooling effect is unexpected.  It seems that it may be a reversal of
> the 2nd Law of T/D—a decrease in entropy instead of an increase.
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> Do you know what the thermal conductivity is?  I would guess it may be
> very low, similar to the electrical conductivity.
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> Also is there an open circuit voltage produced?  I so where are the
>  electrodes attached—positive and negative?
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> It may be that the differential magnetic field inside to the outside acts
> to change the ordering and the entropy accordingly—inside to the surface.
> The magnetic field may cause in effect a phase change—a change to more
> order.  It may happen only at a certain magnetic strength—B field that is.
> And there may be a coupling to the Earth’s magnetic field for extraction of
> energy,  consistent with energy conservation.
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> The differential temperature—inside to outside at the surface---maybe a
> thermal magnetic voltage source analogous to the well known thermal
> electric effect.
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> Bob Cook
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> *From: *Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com>
> *Sent: *Sunday, February 12, 2017 5:20 PM
> *To: *vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
> *Subject: *Re: [Vo]:Regarding what BOB COOK THINKS ABOUT THE NAE
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> More...
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> The Mandela bullot is flat and square with a large surface area. This flat
> topology with a large surface area might permit a maximum of magnetic
> dipoles to form on the surface of the Mandela bullot. I would like to know
> what type of gas filled the black box...is it protium or deuterium or air?
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> On Sun, Feb 12, 2017 at 8:09 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> [image: Inline image 1]
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> The Manelas Device functional diagram
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> On Sun, Feb 12, 2017 at 7:58 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> It might be that the pulsed current of the 137 kilohertz square wave input
> current produces a magnetic dipole with a large instantaneous power factor
> because the current is produced by a square wave like the Brillouin method.
> The 24 volt constant current also produces heat and the strontium ferrite
> magnet is heat resistant. The maximum operating temperature of the magnet
> is 250C and the Curie temperature is 450C, With that high temperature
> operating capacity, coherent magnetically based Surface plasmon polaritons
> may form under the influence of the magnetic dipole motion that localize
> around the magnetic field lines as heat photons become entangled with
> electrons dipoles.
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> If these magnetic polaritons become coherent, these polaritons may produce
> enough magnetic power to destabilize the nuclei of the gas above the
> surface of the magnet inside the Mandela's Device black box.
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> On Sun, Feb 12, 2017 at 6:28 PM, Brian Ahern <ahern_br...@msn.com> wrote:
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> The Manelas billet is strontium ferrite and is very high electrical
> resistivity. This eliminates eddy currents as a loss mechanism
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> [image: cid:image002.png@01D285F2.5F6A0850]
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> *From:* Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Sunday, February 12, 2017 6:18 PM
> *To:* vortex-l
> *Subject:* [Vo]:Regarding what BOB COOK THINKS ABOUT THE NAE
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> Regarding what BOB COOK THINKS ABOUT THE NAE
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> "Note my recent comment regarding the Manelas Device reflecting your
> notice about the discovery of time crystals. There may be a connection with
> the magnetic materials used in the device.
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> Separately, I would note that the design of NAE’s may require a structure
> which allows high magnetic fields (10^12 –10^16 Tesla.) Structures that are
> 1 or 2 dimensional may be the key, with the 1-D NAE supporting LENR+,
> because it causes the reaction in a confined space and maintains the 1-D
> characteristic for repeated reactions upon arrival of reactants—H or D or
> Li or whatever."
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> There is a branch of physics called "QCD in strong magnetic fields" that
> has conducted workshops on what a strong magnetic fields can do to a
> nucleus.
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> http://homepages.uni-regensburg.de/~eng14891/qcdB_workshop/program.shtml
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> QCD in strong magnetic fields - uni-regensburg.de
> <http://homepages.uni-regensburg.de/~eng14891/qcdB_workshop/program.shtml>
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> homepages.uni-regensburg.de
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> Monday 12 November; 09:00 - 09:40: Berndt Müller: When QCD meets QED:
> 09:40 - 10:20: Vladimir Skokov: Magnetic field in HIC and anisotropy of
> photon production
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> and also by another name "Workshop on Magnetic Fields in Hadron Physics"
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> http://www.ictp-saifr.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/all-
> abstracts_logo.pdf
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> Workshop on Magnetic Fields in Hadron Physics ICTP/SAIFR ...
> <http://www.ictp-saifr.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/all-abstracts_logo.pdf>
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> www.ictp-saifr.org
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> Workshop on Magnetic Fields in Hadron Physics . ICTP/SAIFR - São Paulo, BR
> . May 9 - 13, 2016 . List of Abstracts . MONDAY – May 9 . Uses and misuses
> of the NJL ...
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> One posit of this field is that in a magnetic field of (10^12 –10^16
> Tesla.), Localization of (anti-)quark orbits by magnetic field enhances
> chiral symmetry breaking effect of attractive interactions.
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> See
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> http://homepages.uni-regensburg.de/~eng14891/qcdB_
> workshop/pdf/QCDB_Mueller.pdf
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> QCD in strong magnetic fields
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> Charged vector mesons can condense in a superstrong magnetic field. This
> superstrong magnetic field can be considered a magnetic catalyst that
> produces charge parity violation thereby producing strange quarks and their
> mesons.
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> The question then becomes, can Surface plasmon polaritons(SPP) amplify
> light/electron entanglement to the point where magnetism reaches very high
> strength, enough to produce a magnetic catalyst of mesons.
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> When it comes to bose condinsation through ultra dense hydrogen as a way
> to amplify SPPs through superradiance, what matters is the number of SPPs
> that aggregate in that condinsate.
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> An analogy of the additive aggregation principle is how 8,000 AA lithium
> batteries can produce enough power to propel a Tesla for over 200 miles.
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> Quantum mechanics can do unexpected things.
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> When protons and neutrons fall apart into mesons, the final result is a
> boatload of electrons that are fabricated from decaying nuclear matter.
> This is where the current observed in the Manelas Device might come from. A
> large anisotropic magnet might be strong enough to produce electrical power
> strong enough and properly focused to tear apart nuclear matter.
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